Boiling Point
Hi all,
I'm a first time poster thats just came across this forum. As a disclosure I'm not a parent or step parent, but I am dealing with issues that stem from my wifes children from her previous marriage.
Some background for context my wife and I have been together for nearly 6 years and for two of those years we were alone and very happy in our relationship. Until her idiot 23 year old son moved in with us. Once this happened things slowly then suddenly took a turn for the worse over the next four years. His living in our home has been a contasnt source of friction between us. I am not an unreasonable person and understand her position with regards to him. At the end of the day that's her son and I completely respect that. I love my wife very much and am beyond happy in our marriage and fulfilled in every way.
On to the Dumbass.
My problems with this kid have been present since day one. When Dumbass moved in with us he was 19, barely in school, no license, no job and no desire to go out. At the outset things were starting off wrong by his leaving dirty dishes in the sink, an unmade bed, which is in the middle of our living room, closed blinds/shades essentially in the dark and his greatest vice: his undying attention to his cell phone, where he is hyptnozed all day by social media and video games. To say that this kid doesnt look up from his phone is an understatment. I am someone that lives and works on his phone and dont log the amount of time he does looking at this thing.
This is has been the status quo for FOUR YEARS. Over the course of that time he has managed to find a job a department store working in the fitting rooms part time at the most 20 hours a week. During this time, my wife had to drive him around because he refused to get a license, took the drivers test, failed, and then never bothered to retake the test.
The stories that I have witnessed from this waste could take up an entire seperate thread. I may start one if there's any interest.
I digress.
Fast forward to present day. Again I am a reasonalble man and understand that we are in the midst of a global pandemic and things aren't at their best.
But we are starting to hit levels, as the title of this post suggests, that are going into boiling points of aggrevation and anger.
Case in point. Dumbass was sleeping on our pullout couch. In the beginning, he did not put this bed away. He couldn't be bothered to put in the effort to put this bed away and leave the living room at the very minimum decent and not in the way. After years of using this pull out couch, the bed finally broke and wouldn't fold back into place.
Dumbass has gotten a futon which he refuses to fold and put away. This has been a point of contention between my wife and I for sometime. For starters, he doesn't make his bed like the slob that he is and doesn't put in an effort to maintain that area useful to us. Second, on top of him not making his bed, he spends every waking moment splayed out on the couch in his pajamas, leaving us to not be able to even enjoy our own living room.
On Superbowl Sunday, Dumbass surprisingly left the house for some sleep over or whatever. Point is he was out of the house. At this point my wife and I were enjoying our time alone, cooking, having a few beers and generally enjoying this putz not being home.
Our living room was tidied up, she made the bed and put all his shit away. When we went to our bedroom that night we left the living room in good shape. Same thing for Monday morning.
Then Monday evening.
When we got home at around 6pm Monday evening, we walk in and Dumbass for some reason has his bed UNMADE on a Monday evening and in his pajamas. In other words this waste of space came home, went to sleep and didn't do a damn thing all day.
This has been ongoing since he moved in and it has just gotten progressively worse especially during the pandemic.
I am at my wits end and see no end in sight. Dumbass is not motivated by money, by women, by sports, by anything a normal 23 year old man should be motivated by. His only desires is laying on the couch playing video games and drinking beer. He doesn't get dressed and is in pajamas ALL DAY. At night all he does is play video games and drink beer.The proof being a waste basket full of empty bottles or cans on a daily basis. How do I know he went out during the day? When there's a six pack in the fridge. During the day it's a constant walking back and forth between his computer and couch. He doesn't do anything thats outside of the parameters of the instruction his mother sends to him during the day. Which is also very exhausting on her and it shows. She's very frustrated by his attitude and is fed up as well. She doesn't want to kick him out and the only option that I see is my pulling a nuclear option and moving us back to where I'm originally from (NYC).
It's very frustrating because quite frankly I dont like him even though he's not a bad person. It sounds selfish because I am starting to get to the point where I'm not like going home. It's become such a source of anger and annoyance that I would rather do anything else to get home late. The mere thought of knowing that I'm going to walk through the door and see Groundhogs Day where there's an unmade futon, a retard playing on his phone, with no self awareness and that hasn't moved from that position all day gets my blood boiling. He doesn't lift a finger to do anything and when he does it's under protest with sighs and grumps.
Why have you tolerated this
Why have you tolerated this for four years? Has this been a discussion you and your spouse have had about SS moving out at some point? I have a feeling your wife is a Disney Parent and you are trying to get around admitting that.
That's a good question. I
That's a good question. I keep thinking that he he'll be gone on his own but I should know better.
we have repeatedly had this conversation and it basically amounts to an "I know" and no resolution or firm date.
I don't think she's a Disney parent whatever that is because Dumbass only began living with her full when he moved in here. Prior to that he lived with his loser father.
I think she is trying to make up for something by allowing this but in the end it's only hurting him. And I can understand her point of view
A Disney parent is one who
A Disney parent is one who fails to set appropriate limits out of a sense of guilt for "not being there" enough or fear of losing the child, crippling their child in the process. They want to be the fun parent, the parent the child chooses to be with, so they avoid the "negativity" of setting and enforcing rules and boundaries.
Have you talked to your wife
Have you talked to your wife about an "exit plan" for her son. 4 years is enough time for him to get his act together. At this point, it likely would be preferable for him to move out.. even if mommy had to help him a bit ito make ends meet. But, I'm guessing the fact that you have him living on your couch in your living room means you and your wife probably don't have the means to do that for him... in an effort to get him to spread his wings.
It is way past the point for you and her to have a conversation about how long this has been going on.. and what steps he needs to take to get off the couch and out of the home. I would be inclined to take his key away and not allow him to remain in the home for certain hours of the day.. like 8 am to 6 pm.. those are lockout hours.. you can sit and watch your phone.. but you can't do it here. go to the library.. the park.. or maybe get a job to fill your time.
start charging rent.. and groceries.
Give him a deadline.. 6 months and out.. he may not be able to afford his own place.. but he can find a roomate situation... and there ARE jobs out there.. maybe not in restaruants.. but there are jobs..
These are solid points. I/we
These are solid points. I/we do have the means but I refuse to invest a dime into Dumbass because we all know how that ends. I have taken a stern position that he's not my problem. I'm not his father, step father, friend or anything but someone that wants you out of the house.
I have thought about instituting an internet outage while we're not home. We both work and basically he's the only one using it. Turning it off and giving him a blackout period is a good idea.
You're right about jobs. His current job out him on deferral so he could collect unemployment during the pandemic, but let's be realistic, folding clothes at a store is not something that's coming back anytime soon. He seems stuck on this job for some reason because it's convenient. For him of course.
Awful situation. I'm
Awful situation. I'm guessing he has mental illness? Why is he not with his father anymore?
Dumb a$$ has a parent...
Dumb Sh!t.
Sorry. I know thats tough to read. But you wife has been enabling DA to the point of disabling him and as such she deserves a big part of the blame, at least in the first few years 1-2. He is an adult that has been allowed to not progress. ALLOWED by DS. But now its on him (yers 2-4).
I know this because we have SD21 Feral Forger, who has been living with BM Toxic Troll. Im 6 plus years in this, and it wont change unless your wife DS, operates some tough love. And Im not talking anout tidying the futon tough love. He needs a drivers license. He needs a full time job. Start charging him rent - if he can afford beer then he can afford 100/monthly. Who pays for his food btw? Dont tell me your wife cooks and feeds this cretin!
SD21, also has no job and no license and was party hardy until a few weeks ago. Apparently she just started college courses. And has been cleaning her area. But she will never be living in MY home ever again. DH knows this. You need to be very tough on your wife, so she can put more pressure on DA.
Yep, came here to say this.
Yep, came here to say this. OP, I get that you love your wife, but Dumbass is still on your couch because of HER. She's enabling him to Fail to Launch and isn't doing anything to push him along.
You aren't "fulfilled in every way", because she's allowed this man to camp in your living room for 4 years. That's on HER. You may have to take charge and boot him out, though.
Agree with everyone
He needs to be given a hard deadline. He does sound depressed to me but sitting around sleeping, drinking and playing video games is not going to help with that at all.
Possibly. But he's also so
Possibly. But he's also so lazy he once didn't change his towel after he found out our cat had mange and was sitting on it.
He's also a lazy bastard when it comes to everything including showering. He has to be reminded to go shower. Once we were out all day came back home around 8pm. As I'm making my way upstairs he asks if he can go shower. He was home all day. His excuse? The George Floyd/BLM protests shook him up on the couch and he forgot.
He can't get a job because COVID and because I have asthma he's worried he might bring something home. He had no trouble taking a cross country flight to Seattle, staying with God knows who and coming back without a second thought.
Depression? Possibly. But I blame it all on laziness.
Yes
Regardless of the cause the solution is not sitting around on the sofa. The not getting a job because of COVID is also just an excuse. Eviction time!
Hi everyone,
Hi everyone,
I'll be honest...I was not expecting a response and you guys really surprised me!
I'll try to reply to everyone but yes I agree a lot of this is my wife's fault. I don't pressure her because at some point I realize that I'm inadvertently hurting in some way so I step off the gas on that.
mill try to respond to your points but yes ultimately it's come down to needing to give this putz hard deadlines.
When we came home from work he was just navel gazing into space on the couch. In his pajamas.
also thanks everyone for reading my vent on Dumbass. I think sometimes people in our positions need acknowledgement of things
She may be stuck in feeling
She may be stuck in feeling guilty because she didn't raise him (how did that happen?) but she has to realize that she is doing him no favors. The longer she allows this, the more he will believe he's not capable of being on his own. Pushing him to be independent is for his own good as well as yours.
100% this. Her and
100% this. Her and LoserFather divorced when he was 9. LoserFather kept him so my wife had to pay him alimony. As soon as that was done he was on our door step.
she understands this but like you said the guilt holds her back
Sad to say you are a step
Sad to say you are a step parent whatever his age. That situation sounds intolerable. My adult daughter lives with me but she a seperate section of the house.
He isn't going to launch on
He isn't going to launch on his own. A definite plan needs to be made even if that means you and DW take the initiative.
At this point since he seems to have low standards, I would search for cheap rooms for rent, pay the deposit and drop him off with the agreement he can not come back. Change the locks and stick to it.
I would also let DW know if he comes back you are leaving.
I have had to already have this conversation with SO. I can predict his kids will not launch. Do to the serious lack of parenting, they will never have the social skills to adult. I have made it abundantly clear to SO they are not living here once they are adults.
Unfortunately I feel bad because I predict they will end up mooching off Thier grandparents, but I refuse to be responsible for adult kids. I have plans to have a life once I retire and travel, not raise dysfunctional adults. It's not my fault they are the way they are, I had nothing to do with raising them. I will not suffer the consequences of Thier failures in life.
Time for him to leave. If he
Time for him to leave. If he was my son or daughter I would not stand for this crap AT ALL.
As I've learnt here very recently, it's not the kids fault, it's the parenting. There is no waw ANY child should be allowed to behave like this. Sort the mum out, you need to have some serious words with her and it also looks like you need to find yourself another place.
Major update: I can't find it
Major update: I can't find it on my phone but someone posted a link to Rags post about the Burning Platform.
I read it and thought it was brilliant. So brilliant that I came home just now, opened a beer for my wife and I and went over the new regime in this house. I have instituted starting tomorrow the Burning Platform. I plan on making is nuclear.
my wife is taken aback and nervous about this because of DumbAss. I have put my foot down and and let her know this is not optional. She is not happy but quite frankly I don't care.
As for Dumbass he hasn't had the news broken to him yet, but whether he likes it or doesn't like it, learn to love it because it's the best thing going today.
I look forward to having Dumbass struggle.
Thank you all. I will keep everyone posted on things unfold.
Good luck. I fear that this
Good luck. I fear that this is the next stage for me in about a years time. We shall see how it all pans out, but I know one thing for sure, I'm not having a lazy good for nothings bumming around the house thinking they can just do absolutely ZERO.
Update: The burning platform
Update: The burning platform was a total bust in the 12 hours since I brought it up. I think this is the right solution but for the wrong adult child.
So after my wife and I had a discussion on the new regime, she decided to take DumbAss for a walk and break the news to him. When they returned I noticed too cheery of a disposition on everyone considering the risk that DumbAss now has. There was major blowback, but from my wife, about how harsh the restriction of no internet is from 8am-6pm. From there it proceeded to the the list of chores he had to do etc. She was not happy with the idea of Dumbass cleaning our yard, kitchen and living room. Whether it's because she likes to do it her self or some other reason is unknown to me at this point.
We take care of a few outside cats, and this morning at 6:45am I told her to wake DumbAss up to feed the cats. This lead to an all out drag out screaming match, where she was the one doing the majority of the screaming. During this time something dawned on me.
She's the problem.
DumbAss is a result of the parenting of both my wife and LoserFather. It also dawned on me that maybe taking a tough guy stance on him might not be the best idea either. To be quite frank, I felt sympathy for the poor bastard after seeing the meltdown his mother had. A meltdown that I would expect from him, not his mother. This episode has brought out a side of my wife I never knew was there and it's had me questioning things all morning.
I'm not looking to leave my wife or have my marriage broken up because of this. After calming down and reassessing the situation, I don't want to throw DumbAss out, but would rather he's able to make the decision on his own, not because the wind was blowing hard on him but rather because the sun is shining and warming him up. In other words to be able to do this coming from a place of benefit rather than vengence like I originally intended.
I am now in a position of not knowing what to do. One the one hand there can be some peaceful compromise, but I fear it'll just be a temporary solution to appease me, and then back to status quo. On the other hand I can kick him out on his ass in a fit of rage, but it'll just be another in a long line negative experiences that he has.
I truly don't want him to fail. I want him to succeed in life and be a normal functioning human.
But I also dont want my wife to continue to enable him any further, because as I have repeatedly pointed out to her, her way has not worked, wont work and wont continue to work, and the evidence is on the couch.
Today at the very minumum he is cleaning the kitchen and the internet is out. We will see how things play out.
I feel for you. This is what
I feel for you. This is what my parents have faced with my brother. They got it right with me and my 3 other brothers but with my younger brother they never stood together as a team and my mum felt my dad was being too harsh, which he can be, but he was just trying to introduce some discipline. My brother is not easy either, I think he has issues and my mum feels a huge amount of guilt with him.
Mum's will always feel guilty, especially mums of kids of divorce. She will always think you are being to hard, which is why it needs to come from her not you. He will always play his mum too. She is not doing him ANY favours and he will always take the easy route out if he can/she lets him. I feel the same with my SK's. I would disconnect the internet, remove the remote control, make them clean the house every week until they got off their asses, but this would be seen as being to harsh and draconian.
Dads and mums are different, Bio parents of kids of divorce will also add another factor in....Guilt..
I would pour water on his bed if he didn't tidy it, or take awaty the covers and pillows, that's how serious I would be / when I reached the end of my tether, which I can feel you are at, but what can you do. If you have no power or say, just like me you can leave or try to ignore it, step out of it...Easier said than done.
As I've said to my partner, just like you. Everything I do is out of love (not the same kind of love for my kids) because I want them to be decent functioning human beings.
You're SO is enabling his bahaviour and I don't know how you can get her to see that.
The guilt factor is 100% spot
The guilt factor is 100% spot on. And I know and have told and warned her to not fall for his BS. He will give you some song and dance about things and mothers being mothers tend to believe our shit.
I am a son with a mother and father and only child to boot so I know how to game the system. I know which strings to tug on mum and which strings to play with dad. And BECAUSE I know these tricks I've warned her. But it's gone unheeded.
This is why, somehow, she
This is why, somehow, she needs to get there herself. Very frustrating I know. I'm in the same situation. My SO keeps allowing her kids to manioulate them because she feels guilty and at various points in time she has been worried that they will harm themselves. I know they are too selfish to do that
Mine are bth adults now, but she keeps thinking of them as children but the truth is they need to face the reality of life. My dad is actually in the same situation at the moment because my brother has moved back in. My mum keeps coddling him, my dad is very harsh with him. I sympathise with my mum as my dad isn't easy, but I also sympathise with my dad because my mum still does everything for my 25yr old brother which allows him to live in a little bubble of entitlement.
Just curious...
Just curious...
What do you think was said during the walk?
Maybe the Burning Platform
Maybe the Burning Platform isn't the right approach, but maybe a smoldering one could work.
DumbAss has no REASON to do anything other than sit on the couch. His mother has no expectations of him. How about adding in one daily chore, so it's a slow build up to developing life skills? How about you give him a list of seven things that must be accomplished over the course of a week? Clean the bathroom, scrub the kitchen floor, weed the garden, whatever. And one thing must be done each day, otherwise no internet the next day. Build into his chores various life skills -- developing a budget, cooking a meal, paying bills. After a time make one of his chores compiling a list of other places to live.
It's been tried with feeding
It's been tried with feeding the cats. He was supposed to wash their dishes and feed them around 5pm daily. He was doing it for a while and then suddenly he only washes the dishes. No more food. So he essentially only did half of it and in retrospect I suspect the mother had something to do with this.
Same thing with the dishwasher...tell him to run it. He's not capable of unloading after it's done even if he's been in the living room hearing it run and finish. He wont do it unless he's instructed.
If there are no consequences
If there are no consequences for him, then he knows he's in the clear to just blow off anything he wants to blow off. Hence, you also need a list of progressive consequences. First infraction: No internet. 2nd: No internet + additional chores. 3rd: No internet + additional chores + whatever.
If his Mom won't enforce even THAT, then you need to be the enforcer or you need to accept that this will not change. And if it will not change, you decide to either live with it, or live separately from it. It will not magically fix itself.
Please don't leave the care of live animals to him
All the other stuff is good but don't let the animals suffer until he shows he can be relied on
Time for.... the burning platform.
This is not complicated. You need to light a burning platform under his useless ass and force him to leave.
We had to do this with my SS-28 when he was 18. He graduated from HS at 17 so we let him have the summer after graduation on our dime. Getting him out of HS was a challenge. He used to abhor being the center of attention so he would rest comfortably at the middle of the pack where he could be easily ignored. To deal with his severe underperformance we sent him to Military School for his Jr. and Sr. year of HS... at least that was the plan. He kicked ass his Jr. year. Honor Student, Military Leader recognition, recognition for his athletic performance and his performance in the Band. He lost 40Lbs the first 6 weeks of his Jr. year and went from a doughy boy to a rock hard fit young man of confidence. Then... his Spermidiot helped him hack the school fire wall at the beginning of his Sr. year for them to stay up all night playing WoW together so he was comatose in class, and he caught Swine Flu. He was in the infirmary for three weeks. His teachers would bring all of his work to the infirmary and he did none of it. He failed the only class he needed credit for during the first semester of his Sr. year in order to graduate. He failed all but one class. The one class he needed for graduation (Sr. Eng. 1) was not offered during the Spring nor over the summer so we would have had to pay for two more semesters just to get him a diploma from his top 20 in the nation boarding school. My wife said hell no and yanked his ass home at Christmas break where she scared the shit out of that kid. He had one semester to get his shit together and graduate or he was out. Tax season slams her professionally in mid Jan through mid June every year so he and I had a ton of time together for me to give him the continual come to Jesus lectures on how bad he screwed up. One Saturday while his mom was slamming out Tax returns I loaded him up for a drive to Philly and dropped him off at the homeless camp under the elevated Interstate. Then I drove off. He did not know it but I pulled into a shopping center a couple of blocks away and circled back behind the shopping center and parked behind a dumpster where I could see him. And I sat there and watched him for about 2 hours. Those homeless folks were incredible. They fed him, gave him hot coffee, hugged him, scared the ever living shit out of him, lectured him about how good he has it and how he needed to pull his head out of his ass, etc..... When I pulled up, rolled down my window, and told him to get his ass in the car it was obvious he had been sobbing on and off for most of those 2 hours. As he walked away from the homeless camp I got several winks and thumbs up from those Angels. On the drive home I told him June 2nd we either went to his HS graduation or we would be dropping him off at the homeless camp with a Walmart pup tent, a sleeping bag, a new coat, new shoes and a fast food gift card that would feed him for a month.
For the next 5mos that kid was nothing but books, studying, assholes and elbows with his nose to the grind stone. He graduated on time and with honors from our local HS. If he had kept his head in the game at Military School he would have only needed to take a few classes in the Spring and would have needed only Sr. Eng. 2 to graduate. At our local HS he needed Sr. Eng. 1&2, two math classes, two career track classes (He cataloged and computerized the entire music library for the school music program), and he had to finish a Sr. project that was assigned at the beginning of the Spring semester of Jr. year. He only had 5 weeks to get a uear and a half project complete. That kid busted his ass. That whole semester he would occassionally plop down on the sofa next to me and say "Dad, I screwed up. Mom is so mad at me." Tears would just flow down his cheeks. No sobbing, but he was feeling the gravity of his choices. I would just tell him "Yep, you screwed up and your mom is mad at you. But mostly she is hurt and she is afraid for your future. So am I." I would but my arm around his shouders for a few minutes then send him back to his books.
Then we moved. He came with us. The day after he graduated he and I left and drove for three days where I dropped him off at my parent's house. He spent the summer with us, visiting my parents and going on an RV trip with mom and dad and his boy cousins, he visited SpermLand for a few weeks, then he came home. He turned 18 while he was visiting SpermLand. To make sure he would not tell us he was staying in SpermLand and wasting his life with the shallow and polluted half of his gene pool my wife and taken a road trip with her brother (my BIL2) from Houston to Oregon to be there on the day he was supposed to end his finaly COd visitation. I flew up a couple of days after she picked him up and we had a nice family road trip back to Houston. As was usual after a SpermLand visitation he was sullen and withdrawn for the first couple of days but started to engage as the trip progressed. The N. rim of the Grand Canyon was what finally drew him out of the post visitation detox period. It was a nice trip. We re-established our 3 Musketeers relationship. Then the day after we got home, we smacked him in the face with real life. We had offerred him the mom and dad full meal deal full ride college scholarship to any school he wanted to go to (that would accept him). His Military School had offered him a JC scholarship and the Army had offered him a slot in their early commissioning program. But... he failed out and all of that went bye bye.
I am actually very proud of how he handled the topic of college. During our post visitation road trip he finally told us "I am not ready to focus and put in the work I need to invest to be successful in college. I know finishing my degree is important and I will finish it but right now it would be a waste of my time and your money." Certainly not what we wanted to hear ... but.... he knew where he was at and he stood his ground. We made it clear that he could stay in the family home rent free if he was either a full time student or working full time. Or half time student and working part time. Nope, he was not interested in a job.
So.... we turned him into our live in beck and call boy/chore bitch. We worked that kids ass off. His mom went CPA spreadsheet chore list on his ass. For the next 8mos that kid scrubbed, cleaned, swept, vacuumed, mopped, dusted, polished, washed, dried, folded, put away, weeded, trimmed, mulched, mowed, painted, brushed cobwebs off of the outside brick walls, sliced, diced, chopped, cut, roasted, fried, mashed, baked, prepped, cooked, served, then cleaned it all up. If he got the days chores done, he could stay and do the next day's chores. If he didn't get all of that day's chores done, he was out the next AM when his mom and I lefr for work. No money, no food, just the garden hose for water. Which was a funny story.
We would drive off with him standing on the front step of the house with a forelorn look on his face. He only tested us twice. Once when it was over 100*F outside and a second time that Winter when it was in the low 40s. When we got home from work on the hot day he spent locked out of the house he was lying prostrate on the back patio totally parched. When I opened the back door to check on him he was so mad. "Dad, I did not have any water and it was HOT!" That is when I pointed to the garden hose and said... you had plenty of water son. Next time, finish your chores and you won't have to suck on the garden hose to get a drink. The second time he tested us, we left him on the front stoop in his sleep pants and a T-shirt and flip flops. I tossed him the blanket off of his bed as I locked the front door. He was uncomfortably cold when we got home that evening. But... he got to work on his chores and made sure they were done before we left for work the next AM.
After 8mos of being our beck and call boy/chore bitch, we dropped him off at MEPS to ship out for USAF BMT. Two months from tomorrow will be his 10 year service date in the USAF. His 6 year re-enlistment papers are in process now. He has completed an AS in Computer Science and is working on finishing he BSCS. Slower than his mom and I would like, but he has been true to his word and is working on it.
His mom and I are very proud of the man we raised together. I became his dad when his mom married me the week before he turned 2yo. When he was 22 he asked me to adopt him. We made that happen.
A key to the success of our burning platform model with getting SS to launch was that we turned off the internet and cable TV when we left the house each AM. Our house had the SmartHouse system and all of the control of the system was in our MBR closet behind a locked panel. He could watch whatever we were watching in the evening after he finished cleaning up after dinner and he could use the internet until we left for work the next AM. But he was digitally dark from the time we left for work until we got home from work. He was on our cell plan and knew that we could make that go away too.
Try it, load up the router and the cable box every AM when you leave for work. To make a point, get a rugged locable cabinet to lock them in before you leave. Or, put them in the trunk of your car before you drive off. Give him the chore list to have done by the time you get home from work. If he does not do it, leave him on the front stoop until you or his mom get home from work. Rekey the locks and don't give him a key. Start handing him brochures for the US Army, USMC, USAF, Navy, and Coast Guard every couple of weeks. Between being your chore bitch, having zero internet and TV, and if he is on your phone plan have his phone service cut during work hours, and the building life of abject misery he will experience he will launch.
This is not his dad's fault. He is not milking his dad for his shelter, food and digital entertainment. You are your DW are the suckers he is playing. BTW, decent people do not do what this POS failed family spawn is doing. Get it out of your head that he is a decent person. He isn't. His choices and behavior proves it.
Grow some balls man. Solve the problem. Start by taking your bride out for a nice dinner and laying out the plan. Tell her it is happening and you hope she participates but that it is happening whether or not she participates. My wife was completely on board. Much of it was her idea. She was the one that sat him down at Christmas of his Sr. year and gave him the come to Jesus talk that he was not returning to Military School. She went all CPA on his ass. She had a presentation packet, spreadsheets showing what his schooling had cost us, and what he lost out on because he made the stupid decision to let the Spermidiot pollute his opportunity.
My son knew better than to throw tantrums, or to be disrespectful. He did test us, but he was very measured in how far he pushed. He was an adult, so we treated him as an adult. Adults work, they contribute, and they feel the pain of their failures. Our job was to bring the pain.
Your job is to bring the pain.
So do it.
Put a hand between your legs, grab a big handfull of man sack, and man up.
I forecast great things for your marriage and even for your Skid if you do.
Good luck.