The Evil Step Child
Just a run down on my life 23 years old, 2 bio kids and 2 Stepkids... SD5 is the worst! All she does is literally lie all day. If it's not a lie on her Father, then it's a lie on her full blood brother (SS10). It's starting to get annoying. DH has FINALLY seen the light in regards to his daughter, and my is he unhappy. She was talking about how she has a boyfriend and he's in the 2nd grade (she's in Pre K mind you), she doesn't care that she lies to her Mother about her Dad, and treats her half brothers (My 2&1 yo boys) like crap. She takes their toys, then whines saying that she wishes their toys were hers. God, help us!
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It's easy to say blame the
It's easy to say blame the Father, but he can only do so much when we get them every other weekend. It's more like blame the Mother. She tells them constantly that they don't have to listen and condones the bad behavior.
I'll agree that you can blame
I'll agree that you can blame some of this on BM, but you have to blame your DH, too. If she has been doing this for a while and he's just now seeing it despite you saying things to him (I'm assuming you have done this, or her brother has), then that lack of parental insight is on him.
He needs to nip this in the bud. She's five. He can easily ground her, take her toys, tell her to stop talking, take her out of fun things you all are doing together, etc. He can also reward good behavior on her part when she follows the rules. Even with only seeing her EOWE, he can still show that in his house, her lying won't be tolerated.
I suggest nanny cams so that if SD makes up a really big, dangerous lie, you have (hopefully) proof to the contrary.
Our BM tells th Skids s***.
Our BM tells th Skids s***. Used to takes them a bit to adjust to it all. We just have to hold firm on everything.... Structure was what they needed and is what we give. She wouldn’t even take care of them. So they ran rampant and dirty. Have your DH talk to her, and have consequences for when she misbehaves. Your DH should take care of this. I’ll brush the Skids to DH and tell him he’s on kid duty if they start doing s*** because of BM or informing me all the s*** she tells them. He procreated with psycho, so he gets to mess with that. Lol. Took him a while to catch on.
"can only do so much when we
"can only do so much when we get them every other weekend"
If I had a dollar for every time my DH used this as an excuse to not parent, I'd be living alone on an island somewhere drinking fruity drinks with no children in sight. }:)
BM used to tell SD & SS that
BM used to tell SD & SS that they didn't have to follow Peri's rules or DH's rule because they were MEAN! It didn't last long because the kiddos got tired of consequences every time they saw us. Was it a hellish time of DH feeling like a horrible person whose kids hated him? Yes! Did it last? Nope. And later on when the kids were in therapy and BM complained that she was having difficulties with the kids following her rules because 'Dad & Peri let us do this!'* and wanted us to agree to force the kids to follow her rules in our home, the therapist's response was simple. Kids can fully understand that different places have different rules and abide by those different rules, otherwise all children would need to be homeschooled. Young children in daycare learn quickly that daycare may have different rules than home. Kids are smarter than adults like to give them credit for. But kids are kids and will take advantage if they think they can get away with it.
*The kids also tried to do this the opposite way: telling us 'Mom lets us do this so you should too!'. We always responded with "That's nice. Our house, our rules. Mom's house, mom's rules." They don't try that sort of thing with us anymore, though apparently still do it to BM occasionally.
"He can only do so much when
"He can only do so much when we get them every other weekend," is not in it's own an excuse.
SO's little one is aggressive, sleeps in moms bed, doesn't eat at moms. Guess what happens at our house he has consequences. As a reaction to those consequences SO's little one doesn't get aggressive, doesn't sleep in our bed, and eats what he's given when he's with us.
Did our rules change what happens at BM's, No, but they did change what happens at ours.
If DH had from day one set the rules "no lie" and stood his ground you might see a completely different child. Countless stepfamilies can attest to the fact that children can follow completely separate rules for separate houses. They can be completely different children.
Heck 'normal' families see this when the child is with grandma / grandpa or even at school.
Even just depending on the adult that handles them.
There are countless step mothers here who talk about how their step child does good with whatever they require until daddy gets home. Suddenly stepchild doesn't have to listen and it's daddies fault for not working with his partner and backing her rules.
Yes every other weekend means only so much you can do on some things. You can't change school grades when the child only does homework every other weekend. Your child isn't going to drop 20 pounds and not be diabetic if BM's still feeding them soda and candy 12 out of 14 days.
But you chance influence the behavior in YOUR home and children CAN follow rules even if BM doesn't make them. She's 5. Find her carrot and use it against her.
The amount of time he has
The amount of time he has them is no excuse for not staying on top of bad behavior.
Kids are not stupid. They know darn well what they can get away with. They know who will get on their asses and who will simply throw up their hands and make excuses.
You and DH can't control what
You and DH can't control what happens outside your home, so blaming BM is a wasted effort. When the kids are with DH, he is responsible, that is why we say the father is to blame if he is not stepping up.
She’s five. You are
She’s five. You are miserable. You are making her life miserable. Find a therapist who has dealt with step families.
??? I am not making her
??? I am not making her miserable. All I've done is try to love that brat and she's just a problem child...
Do you honestly think your
Do you honestly think your feelings for her never shine through to her?
After I've lost ALL patience
After I've lost ALL patience and my blood pressure is up YES I'm sure it does shine bright like a diamond, but I try my hardest to have fun and show her love. NOTHING I DO IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR HER!It's always them (DH, her blood bro, and her) against me .... At least in her mind. She doesn't want me going to family outings that I PLAN, when her dad's around she tries to act like I've neglected her all day! Her birthday is in February and didn't invite her brothers to the party!!! (BM is throwing it) I'm over it!
Those feelings you feel?
Those feelings you feel? That’s why I said to seek help. It’s not an insult. It’s a life preserver.
Don't stress too much over
Don't stress too much over the party. I didn't invite BM to SD9's birthday party I threw, and she's technically that all-hallowed egg donor.
If BM didn't push inviting the brothers SD4 probably didn't think of it. I have a four year old step daughter. Sometimes her mom tells her REALLY nasty things, they're basically parrots at that age... So they repeat what they hear, it's probably not personal at all, she's just confused and getting backlash from "mommy."
At one point BM told SD4 I wasn't "even a mom, and will never be a mom." SD4 threw that at me, it came off super abrasive, and I admit, it hurt, I'm the one raising them... But I realized she's just as confused... This figure she sees as amazing (every child sees their parents as awesome, I was emotionally abused growing up and I still thought my parents were awesome when I was young... Thankfully all that is fixed now) but she will grow up and hopefully will form her own opinions. For now though, you don't know what BM is telling her, she may be saying that it would hurt her feelings if she loved you or it would hurt her feelings if she talked to you. Some BMs do some crazy s***.
I really want to
I really want to Disengage....but I know DH would be hurt if I show no interest in his kid. I've been around other 5 year olds ( DH and I both come from huge families) and those kids act like kids! But SD?! Nothing that she does besides the jealousy over her little half brothers is kidish. DH took time coming around, but he now sees that she's a problem. Now whenever he punishes her she goes home and tells her mom. She knows her moms a drama queen who wants to have sole custody, so anything that is said gets used against DH.It just hurts because I do want us all to be a happy family, but when it comes to me they use me as an excuse for why DH is now stepping up. I'm happy he's stepping up! I tell him what happens and he handles it for me. I feel like for the first time we're a team
I wish I had the advice from
I wish I had the advice from the other stepmoms on here when my SD was 5 and causing drama and telling BM on us (me and SO) anytime she didn't get her way at our house knowing BM would cause a major shit storm over it. I would have disengaged back then! Instead I tried staying engaged for several more years and then I found this Godsend of a site. Yes, BM influences your SD but your DH needs to be the one at your home parenting. Disengage...if DH gets upset oh well. I know mine doesn't like it but I don't care it is his job to parent his daughter. Refer her to her dad for EVERYTHING and have daddy explain that BM rules/expectations are for BM's house. BM does not control your house and here are the rules/expectations for your home. Trust me, if daddy doesn't start parenting and continues to let BM and SD rule it will be MUCH worse in the future.
Disengagement doesn't have to
Disengagement doesn't have to be as black and white as "fully engaged 'bonus' mom" and "showing zero interest in the child and pretending they don't exist". There is a lot of room in the middle.
You're already partially disengaging by redirecting parenting to your DH and demanding he handle her behavior.
You can set limits on what you will tolerate and disengage when that limit has been hit. If you enjoy doing puzzles with SD and she behaves while doing them, then do them with her. However, if she gets pouty or you find out she's lying about puzzles (eg telling BM you make her do them and punish her if she doesn't), then no more puzzles. If she asks why, tell her it's because she lied and you won't play with liars. Then walk away.
Disengage as limits are hit and maintain your disengagement until behaviors change for the long term (assuming you ever want to re-engage). SD complains about the food you make? DH can make her food and serve it to her. She throws a fit in the middle of a game? Get up and walk away without a word to her. She lies about things you say? Don't talk to her outside hello and goodbye. My guess is if you slowly disengage and tell your DH every time a limit is hit, he'll tolerate it much better than a proverbial "dumping" of his kid.
I say this to you because you don't want to upset your DH. You can totally 100% disengage from SD today and you'd be well within your rights to do so. Your DH doesn't have to like it, but you have every right to be respected by individuals interacting with you and dictating what kind of relationship you have with them. You can't forbid SD from coming in your home (at least not given her current behavior), but you certainly don't have to help with her care or subject yourself to her poor behavior. If your DH doesn't like it, then he can fix problem or risk losing his wife. His choice.
Two words: Nanny cam!!!!! And
Two words: Nanny cam!!!!! And I’m not even joking. Skids often lie especially when they think it will benefit them in any way. They’ll start lieing on siblings then move on to putting one parent against the other then she’ll move to you. Stepparents are expendible to everyone it seems in stepwise when it comes to the lieing game.
The only way to make it stop is to catch her everytime and give her consequences. Her DH should do this. My skid lies to BM all the time because she believes him, because it gets him out of trouble, because he knows if he tells her what she wants to hear he can get stuff from her-it’s a trade, and he’ll throw DH under the bus. DH has called him out in front of BM about it twice. But she’ll believe her six year old over her ex even when he’s been proven a liar. You can only fix your household standards and enforce them.