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Biodad is manipulated by ex

lula's picture

Have any of you dated a man who is constantly manipulated by his ex? They have 2 children together and biomom is constantly inviting biodad in to join her, her boyfriend of 3 years and their 2 bio kids in eating dinner, joining her and the kids in places he shouldnt be. He ends up paying for them if he just stops by to pick up his kids at a restaurant and when something breaks down in her home, the home he used to live in, she has no problem asking him to fix it. ( the pool, the pipes, the lights, the alarm system, etc..)
You know, she says it's for the kids.. "The kids want to swim, bathe, etc.. He feels guilty and runs to fix these things. Biomom has a steady boyfriend of her own who is always around and still she manipulates her ex by using the kids...even if her steady boyfriend is there! She has money..lots of it. she can easily hire anyone she wants.. my boyfriend knows she is doing this , but says it's not a problem for him to do her all of these favors for her if it means he gets to see the kids more than just weekends and 2 days during the week...Sometimes I don't find out about the favors he's done for her until weeks later.. what to do? Any suggestions...??

Enuffsenuff's picture

That's all you can do. IF they have divorced-then it's no longer his responsibility to take care of things in her household and she should not use the kids to get him to do for her.

I kind of went through this with my partener at first. BM would call wanting money or medicine for kids, or ask him to buy things because she had lost her job and was broke. I finally told him that it had to stop. She also had BF who she was talking about marrying and had been living with since she moved out and asked for a divorce.

It is in their court order that each parent is to take care of the daily needs of the children when they are in that parents care. In our case it's joint custody with equal time so no support is paid or anything. However my partener would say "Well if it's for the kids.... " or" I don't do it for her...." But really she benefits from it too and to me that's not just "for the kids" is it?

I pointed this out and asked him what he thought would happen if he didn't buy the shoes she asked him too, or the allergy medicine etc. If she is any kind of mother at all her kids will not go without simply because her X refuses to take care of it. Once my BF stopped doing for his X she stopped excepting him too. She took care of it herself or relied on her new man to help her out-which is how it should be. If he continues to let her rely on him for every little thing then she always will and later down the line it will only cause a wedge to come between the two of you.

If I were you I would tell him how you feel and ask that he cut the ties. Maybe it doesn't bother him, but it bothers you and if you are trying to move forward in your relationship you can't have that stuff coming between you. Besides that why does he wait weeks later to tell you about these things? That would indicate in my opinion that deep down he knows it's not right or fair to you. He shouldn't have to be nice to have his kids more. He should have his kids more because it's what's best for the kids.

If he has been getting the kids more that can work to your advantage should he take the issue into court and have visitation modified. If he documents the "extra" time she is giving him then the judge very well my rule in favor of more equal time shared between the bio parents. Wouldn't it be nice to have the kids more and not have to be at X's beck and call? I'm sure he would agree that it would.

lula's picture

Thank you for your great insight... You were very helpful!
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Julie30's picture

Mine does the same exact stuff for his ex and it pisses me off. I usually find out from his daughter (10) thing's that have gone on - and it usually ends in a HUGE fight with BF.

BF justifies it by the same exact excuse your guy gives you. I will do whatever if it means that I can see my kids some more.

Meanwhile I have had HIS two children for the past two weeks. Meanwhile the Biotch has received 2 or 3 child support checks in the amount of $155.00 each and she took about a week to drop the kids clothes off at the house. The kids also eat our food like termites, chomping 24/7... And of course they leave every light on in the house and turn the a/c down and of course his son takes 1-hour showers "who pay's for this? ME"

Meanwhile: Her (Biomom)'s house is nasty, infested with roaches and rats and she drinks like a fish. She has been dating a married man for around 2 years now and cries to BF that she doesn't understand why the kids would be happy if he married me but don't want her to marry her BF... Gee doesn't her BF have to be divorced before he can propose? Every day I want to call child services on her but I don't want to stir the pot of trouble. But it's ridiculous.

She has BF drive out to her house (25) minutes away so that he can drive his daughter 1-mile away from her house, just so she can get her son to school which is by her work and our house. Then if she needs anything fixed she turns to my BF to do it.

I tell BF all the time to just go back to her ASS if she is that "NEEDY"... I raised my oldest son on my own and yes he is coming around now but if I needed something fixed in my house I surely wouldn't call an ex to do it. I would do it myself., get a relative or neighor to fix it etc.

The Biotch even had the nerve to tell me:

"You knew this when you met him, he had two kids from a previous relationship and he does it for the kids sake"!!!

Yeah WELL my response to that was:

"You knew when you had your two children, the first while still married to your ex husband and just before BF's final divorse what you were getting yourself into... You had two children with him, never married him! And your the one who wanted to PARTY, MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE and KISS HIS BUTT GOODBYE because you couldn't stand him! So maybe you should think about that! Because you knew what the results would be when you got yourself into this mess"... YOU CHOSE TO BE A SINGLE MOM, WHEN HE DIDN'T MAKE THE CHOICE FOR YOU... So since you made your Bed you can Lay in it :-)"

I felt that was a good come back.

Part of moving on, is being independent! Why not invite your ex-boyfriend over to help with your house and see how your BF reacts to that. Wink

I have entertained the idea. LOL

Julie (31)
Bio-Children - Son under 1 with BF, Son age 11 from previous relationship.

BF - Son under 1 our's together, Daughter age 20 from prior marriage, son age 14 & daughter age 10 from previous relationship.

OldTimer's picture

Isn't it a wonder sometimes?!?! Man, sometimes I really wish that the courts were reading these posts! lol. Won't that be something...

lula's picture

Thank you for all of your feedback...Here's some more fuel for thought...
My BF's ex invites him to all of her family functions including ones where her boyfriend is present, too! She invites all of my BF's family whom she continues to maintain relationships with... My BF says he's has no control over what his ex does ... which I agree.. and that eventually those relationships will die out on their own.
I know that this may sound hypocritical but...
My Bf went up to sleepaway camp on visitation day along with their daughter, biomom, biomom's BF and his kids....all spent the day with their son...and biomom's parents.
Don't you think that the son deserved to be with his parents and not the ex's BF and kids? Truthfully, I don't think that it was my place to be there either... I have 2 sons of my own in sleepaway and I would not take my BF along to spend the day with me, my kids and my ex... There is only one visiting day and I am not going to ruin it for my kids. There is certainly a place for everything and visitation day at sleepaway camp is not a place for BF's, especially along with bio mom and biodad whom the child can't wait to see.
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OldTimer's picture

you may not like my answer to this, but I sort of have an issue that's similar. Later in the year, closer to spring, my SS is going for a week to camp as part of a school field trip. The school he attends is an alternative style Pod System and heavily relies on the parents for funding extra school activities. They don't use a bus system, it's up to the parents to get their kids to and from the school, as well as the field trips and chaperoning them. It's a very hands on school for both the students and the parents. Involvement is a big factor.

Okay, so they have this scheduled camping trip coming up. SS naturally asked both ME (his stepmom, literally asked me...) and his father, as well as his mother. (I don't think he asked his new stepfather though, lol.) And we are going... because we are a family unit. Whether his mother goes or not, we don't care, we don't know, probably not. SS asked us, jumping up and down, was soooo excited about us going, and to tell you, I certaily can be a big enough adult to stomach his mother there and not worry about her. I'm not there for her, I'm there for SS (as well as to be an extra pair of eyes for the teachers too! lol)

So, in my opinion, for one event, one day, it shouldn't be a big deal, really. (Mine's a week!) That's just taking things personally. IF the child WANTS everyone there, so be it. If you're worried that some shunanigans will happen, then bite your tongue and just ignore it, refocus on the children. I don't even give BM the satisfaction of her snotty attitude toward me, but rather just smile, smile, smile and don't say awhole lot. I'm polite, cordial, and nice (even if I am secretly gagging on her fake phoniness).

That's just my take on it. ;~)

luke's picture

Hello! I am asking for some advise i hope you can help us.
Our son met a girl roughly 2-1/2 years ago she had 2 boys 1 aged 7 years now and 1 aged 5 years now, after awhile about 1 -1/2 years she fell pregnant and so they had a beautiful baby girl,sometimes before the birth he would return home from an argument with her with cuts and bruises on him where he has had abuse from her, any way over time as i have mentioned our grandaughter came along,things were still not right.we got some information from our son about his girlfriend and that she is on Sarokat i dont think i have spelt that right,with the way she acts her mother has mentioned she could have Bipolar disorder which have all the symptoms she has had,recently she has had the police to come and make my son leave the flat his name is not on the rent book so he had 5 min's to collect somethings and leave,before this there had been a family group meeting and it got heated and the boys grandparents of her ex partener had them and the mother and our grandaughter would stay with her parents my son would stay in the flat this was called a cooling off period but my son could see his daughter,when my son went to see his daughter the girlfriends parents would not give him access to her he then went back to the flat ,he had not seen his daughter for 5 days then the police came and had to make him leave. (1) question i would like answered if possible would be, can my sons girlfriends parents refuse accesss for my son not to see his daughter?i have so many questions but this one,i need to know.Do they have the right to refuss my son acsess to his daughter?a concered mother. Thank-you.