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No thank yous for Mothers Day

Gunner's picture

From the kids not the wife. My stepdaughters didn't thank me when I took them shopping to get their mom a gift and flowers but said thank you for lunch. I reminded them to use their manners and they said this isn't for us its for mom. I didn't say anything else. My kids say thank you when I take them shopping for their mom and for my wife. Should I broach the subject with my wife or will she think I am being nit picky?

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sunshinex's picture

I would take whatever gift/flowers I bought back and say "in that case, if it's not for you, I guess i'll just take these back to the store" and leave it at that. Clearly it's for them to give to mom... so they can say thank you.

Gunner's picture

Then I'd have been in trouble with the wife. }:) I didn't want to ruin my wifes Mothers Day. She is a great mom and I know 5 kids can be overwhelming.

sunshinex's picture

Oh I understand that... have you and your wife sat down and talked about what's acceptable/not acceptable from the kids? That's something I made sure to discuss with my DH pretty early on because everyone has different opinions. I told him I'd have NO part in raising kids that lack respect for animals (ie not bothering them/hurting them while playing), lack table manners (ie not eating with their mouths open or talking about things they shouldn't be talking about at the table) and so on...

Some of the things on my list didn't really matter to him. For example, he doesn't care much if SD5 eats with her mouth open because he thinks "she'll stop when she's older because of boys anyways" lol, but I told him early on I would absolutely not be okay with it. So when I bring it up or send her on a time-out for eating with her mouth open, he can't consider it "nitpicky" because he knew ahead of time.

It's nice to have these guidelines laid out, especially because parenting can be approached so many different ways and everyone has different opinions, and when you're a blended family, it becomes more complicated when you don't agree.

Edited to add: My husband came around to all of my expectations (i was raised in a military family so some are a bit much) and he absolutely loves how SD is turning out. She's got more respect and manners than any other 5 year old i've seen Smile

ESMOD's picture

It's splitting hairs a little bit. They did thank you for taking them to lunch... but it would have been nice if they had thanked you for the trip to the store as well. Yes, the presents they bought were for their mother, but you did them a favor by making it possible for them to give a gift.

Honestly, in light of your recent difficulties, I might let it slide since it might seem nit picking.

Gunner's picture

My kids can't drive and there are no buses out here. It's to far to hoof it so if I don't take them no one would.

Stepped in what momma's picture

Aunts and Uncles take our skids to shop for their Mothers Day gift and if you don't have any of those people available to help the thanklessshi*s then I wouldn't be taking anyone anywhere unless I got a thank you.

Gunner's picture

My kids remember their manners without prompting so i have no problem taking them. I learned a little advice here today that I will use next time on my step kids.

ChiefGrownup's picture

Just popping in to say that bm does not take any care of her dog. She wishes I would adopt him. I won't. But I do get him veterinary care. The veterinarian has given him shots, neutering, chip (with BM's contact info, not mine), checkups, and biopsy on my dime. They know he is not my dog and that the dog does not even live in my house. BM has not had to fill out any paperwork or even phone them for permission.

Vets treat abandoned and rescues all the time without knowing who the owner is. I can see how it might appear to violate some rule and I worried about it myself when I first brought sdog in. But there doesn't appear to be any such rule. I think the vets will generally treat an animal in need and make a judgment call about whether the person bringing the animal in is on the up and up.

Gunner, you are doing a wonderful thing for this little fellow.

Ninji's picture

My skids are weird with the thank you's as well. They say thank you to me and DH. Sometimes excessively, but when we are in public and a stranger holds a door or does something for them, I still have to remind them to say thank you.

You may not have purchased the items as gifts for them, but you did do them a favor. Favors require a thank you.

I wouldn't make a big deal out of it. Just in the future, I would treat it as a learning experience. You say thank you for a variety of reasons. Not just when you receive a gift.

secret's picture

Next time they ask for a ride, tell them they didn't seem grateful last time, so maybe they could find someone to take them that doesn't expect gratitude

Acratopotes's picture

Disengage, stop driving them around, they have a mother who can do that, oh and a bio father...

there's no need to wait till the day before to get a gift for your parent, you can do it weeks in advance and still hide it till the actual day, birthday, mothers day , Christmas.. what ever...

You really have to set some boundaries with these kids, if they treat you like a human being and with respect, by all means help them and drive them around, if they treat you like snake shit shadow... they are on their own

ChiefGrownup's picture

I would address it directly with the kids but I think the moment has passed. Let it go. But next time it comes up be prepared. When kids say they don't have to be grateful the perfect response is to immediately let them see what it would be like to do said thing on their own.

Skids: We don't have to thank you for taking us to shop for someone else.

Gunner: Oh, really? (Gets out pencil and paper, starts figuring.)

Skids: What are you doing?

Gunner: .....there...carry the one....ok! Got it. You both owe me $5 for gas (give mileage stats), $95 for my time (Calculate your hourly rate at work), and $5.00 for insurance/maintenance, and a $10 cleaning fee for the car. That's a $115.

Skids: Wha?!?!??!!

Gunner: You don't look like the kind of people who have that sort of cash laying around. Well, I can think of a schedule of chores and you can work it off that way. Should take about 7 months.

Skids: 7 months of chores!!!!! Ack, waaa, erp!

Gunner: Do you want to make a down payment now and shave some time off that? OK, we'll drain your piggy bank when we get home....

Skids: Aaaarrrghhh!!!!

Gunner: (deep breath/pause) Or would you rather thank somebody for doing something for you that they didn't have to do?

Skids: Do you really have to pay all that stuff for your car and everything?

Gunner: Yes.

Skids: Ok, thank you, Gunner for taking us.

Gunner: You're very welcome. Now, I saw an ice cream shop across the way, shall we stop there on the way home?

(Finish up on a high note. They will remember the lesson but forget the angst)

You can handle this one yourself. If the skids mention it to your wife and she doesn't like it I guess she'll enjoy driving her own kids everywhere.

StepUltimate's picture

My SS thanked me. Unfortunately but unsurprisingly, BM mind-f*cked SS all last week & this weekend & he didn't want to see her, but after twisting in the wind he finally connected with her (stated he hoped she pulled her usual mothers day stunts so he'd have a reason to leave... although he knows can leave anytime). I'm detached but spent time listening to his frustration with her, and did a few special things for him. His little boy heart just wants her love, and she is shameless about using his fantasy-hope to play her cat-&-mouse b.s.

Stepped in what momma's picture

In my book I think there is a big difference to taking your bio kid shopping vs. taking a skid shopping. To me a skid is the same as a nephew or niece so if I help them with something like taking them to pick out a gift for their mother I would expect a thank you. But then again if it was my niece or nephew they would have been raised with proper manners to say thank you for things.
We have the skids every year for Fathers Day because it falls on our 2 month time with them, I always take the skids to whatever stores they need to get their gifts, they both always say thank you which is why I have taken them again year after year. I don't do nice things for people that aren't nice.

TwoOfUs's picture

I'm with you on this, Heaven...and we don't often agree.

I think this is nitpicky in the extreme. They DID say thank you for lunch, which was the same trip...as the adult in the situation, I would take that as a sign of gratefulness for the entire outing. Kids that age often get excited about getting something for their mom/dad...but usually only if a grown-up reminds them. It's a Hallmark holiday anyway that I don't think kids fully understand...they're taught by adults. In my experience, in both bio and blended family relationships, it IS the spouse being the prime mover behind mother's day/father's day when the kids are minors. It is much more a holiday to show your spouse that you appreciate what they do for the family and how they care for the children than anything else. I've taken my skids to get Father's Day, Bday, and Christmas presents for their dad...and sometimes for their bio-mom, too...and it never occurred to me that they should thank me for the errand. In general, they are grateful, considerate kids...and that's what's important.

The more Gunner posts, the more I think he's incredibly childish.

Gunner's picture

Awe shucks lady! You made me blush. My kids haven't been over in a week and will be here this weekend. I'm going to watch how she treats them and stay on top of it. She has been treating me great since she apologized. I did get warned she may change when they come so I am keeping an eye out.

TwoOfUs's picture

In what post does he sound like a loving husband? He sounds like a childish control-freak to me.

Disneyfan's picture

Gunner sounds like a husband and father who is really trying. His wife sounds like a nut job who wants him and his resources for her children.

He sounds like the type of man who loves is wife, but isn't willing to push his kids to the side in order to please her and her children.

He sounds like the type of man who understands that being a step parent is hard, but isn't going to allow his wife to use tha as an excuse to screw up with children.

TwoOfUs's picture

Really.

So you think that nitpicking about kids who say Thank You for lunch but not for the shopping trip sounds like a loving step-parent? Like he's totally cool and great to her kids but she's a "B" to his? To me, he sounds like he likes to nitpick on her kids and play tit-for-tat and she lost it. Every post reads that way to me. His kids were angels during vacation, hers were annoying. His kids are perfectly grateful and wonderful all the time, hers are ungrateful. Etc, etc, etc. Sounds like he has had a double-standard about kids far longer than she has and she finally snapped.

Not sure where you're getting the money thing...but it seems to be a real issue for you. You're totally reading into his posts. He said that he likes to spoil her...and that she's frustrated that he sends extra money to his ex. That would frustrate me, too, even if I weren't the higher earner in my relationship. It's about more than money. He's also said that "he gets the final word" when it comes to finances and he made the counseling appointment without talking to her, first. All of this, to me, reeks of someone who likes to have total control in a relationship. Even "spoiling" can be controlling in many cases. He never once said that she complains about child support or asks him to pay for stuff for her kids or that she's a leech. She has a full-time job and covers all food and household items as well as extras. In my home, those expenditures are as much or nearly as much as our set bills. I imagine in a house with 5 kids (even though some are part-time) those expenses are not insignificant.

You're really pulling this money/resources thing out of thin air and assuming a lot about the motives of someone you don't even know...even to the point of going contrary to what the OP himself has told us.