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Update, but still at the end of my rope...

lieutenant_dad's picture

DH and I had a chance to talk Sunday. We were going to talk last night, but he blew out a tire on his car trying to go to work, and I needed to actually go into the temp "office", so we didnt get his car towed (he limped home) until almost 8pm. He managed to get the car home and proceeded to emotionally break down. He's drained and at his limit, too. The man has cried for 2 days, and he never cries.

During out chat on Sunday night, my major sticking point was the money to BM. DH responds well to logic, so I tried to logic into his emotional brain.

I said how, at no point in the last decade that he has been divorced, has any of the thousands of dollars he and his family has given BM helped her long-term. It hasn't lifted her or the boys out of poverty. It hasn't done anything except get her 2 weeks down the road.

And it hasn't helped the boys. They still end up bouncing from house to house. They still live in squalor. They will live with her questionable men who steal from them.

I explained that ALL he was doing was helping her limp along so that she can retain custody, which isn't exactly a good thing. That they have a home HERE. They have food HERE. They have security HERE. He IS doing his part.

Then I explained that BM should NEVER have an issue paying her rent or utilities (the two things she has complained about) because his CS fully covers both, plus the internet. Even though that isn't what CS is supposed to be solely used for.

Then DH wanted to question me about CS. Saying it wasn't meant for things like clothes and school outings. That it wasn't her job as CP to make that money stretch to those things.

I corrected that really quick. I reminded him, yet again, that I have grown up in a blended family. My SF's XW tried to make those same claims, and the judge smacked her down in court. My mom raised us on less CS because she wanted my dad to be able to keep his house, and she still managed to use the CS to buy us clothes, pay for trips, etc. DH's argument may have been valid when he was making $10-12 an hour during the recession and only paying $400/mo in CS, but not now.

So he shut up after that, either out of agreeance or annoyance, I'm not sure. I re-iterated that we don't actually help the boys by limping her along.

Then DH dropped the bomb: BM spent her money on the vehicles and needed that extra money for rent. Because she has been unemployed AGAIN and just started working at a warehouse that she tried working at a long time ago and couldn't due to her "illnesses". In other words, this won't last long.

I lost it. I told off DH and told him he SWORE to me we wouldn't help with her rent. He tried the whole "but FIL gave it to her" spiel. I told him then she could have contacted him directly and left us OUT of it. But, she didn't know we would go to him so she really was expecting DH to open his wallet to her.

He said she's close to eviction. He said he knows this job won't last. He said he knows he'll have to take in the boys at the start of the year because she'll be homeless again. If she is working at this warehouse, it will not last (she has been working cushier jobs that have lasted less than 90 days; this will be job #5, at least, since April).

I said start finding an attorney and talk to BM about relinquishing custody without a court battle. I said I didn't want to divorce, but if this continued, I would leave because this isn't what I want and it isn't what I support. I told him I divided up our income; we'll see how he takes that when we go to pay bills on Saturday.

So after that, and much crying on both our parts, we went to bed. I don't know if he thinks things are better. I think he knows they aren't because Monday just overwhelmed him. I do feel bad for him, and every fiber of my being wants to help him not hurt. However, these are things he brought upon himself (including the car thing - he has needed tires for months). He needs to see a counselor to work through his guilt (and we talked about that, too - he's not a crappy parent, but a guilty one that leads him to do crappy things). He needs to fix them.

So that is where we are. This is not how I wanted this conversation to go, or to happen. I did admit to overreacting to the picture thing, and he's going to talk to BM about getting the kids on Sunday to try again. I'm still not in a joyful Christmas mood, but I can't try to find happiness if I continue to stay bitter.

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beebeel's picture

I hope he's serious about seeing that therapist for his guilt. My DH is consumed by it and it's not pretty to watch.

lieutenant_dad's picture

I hope so, too. I'm going to get in touch with my EAP and see if we can do couples counseling through them (I think we can) to see if we can get through this part. I'm hoping that will lead him to get some actual counseling, and will get me a referral to someone for myself, too.

Harry's picture

Custody ?  Having SK 24/7.  You still are going to have to deal with BM,   You are right, she is not going to change,  what she does will go on forever. Will your DH parent his kids, or everything is going to fall on you. ?

lieutenant_dad's picture

The kids don't typically bother me. I've never had an issue with the idea of them living with us. DH does make them be respectful and kind, and does make them keep up after themselves. The issue is more that DH gives them too much freedom over their free time, and that leads to problems. Most of their poor behavior is related to being teen boys. Their mother and her inability to adult is 85% of the problem.

tog redux's picture

The thing that people forget (especially greedy BMs) is that the father is not the only one responsible for paying for the children's upkeep. CS from the NCP is meant to supplement the CP's portion of child care costs. So she doesn't have to "stretch" his child support to cover clothes, she has to contribute her portion! The children have TWO parents who are supposed to cover their care.  It's such a strange distortion that people have.

I don't get your DH. In his head he's helping the kids, but he's not, he's just teaching them how to enable their needy, dependent mother.  If BM can't care for them adequately, they should live with DH and she can contribute her portion of their care to him.

Ugh.

lieutenant_dad's picture

It's emotions, not logic, that is driving DH right now.

What kills me, and I may need to bring it back up to him, is that FIL gifted us money for the down payment of our house. We didn't need it (we had enough in savings), but we kept getting outbid on houses because our budget was tight. BM was homeless at the time (which we didn't know; she said she was living in an apartment on a friend's property, but was actually couch surfing with the kids near MIL and using her as a babysitter, which MIL never told us either), and we were about to rent an apartment because we knew BM was going to end up wearing out her stay (and she did, just not where we thought she was living).

FIL gave us the money so we could outbid on our house and refused to take our money (and he has the cash to do it). He just wanted to make sure his grandkids had SOMEWHERE stable to live.

I haven't mentioned this to DH yet because he has some shame for his dad helping us out (and I do, too). But maybe It's time that he feel that shame and get it kicked back into his skull that people helped HIM to stop enabling HER.

Harry's picture

That BM is a sinking ship.  All he is doing is keeping the ship afloat a for a little more time.  But in the process of doing this, he is sinking his own ship.  Giving money to BM will never end, She will always be short,will always need something.  All you are going is destroying your own financial life 

I love dogs's picture

This is so true. What is he going to do when the kids age out and BM still thinks it's his problem to pay for her mom's car issues?

Cover1W's picture

I think the holidays are having an influence on our spouses.  I just posted issues with my DH and the SDstb15/BM issue update in Teen Forums.

It's exhausting.  I get it.  I have to be super straight forward with my DH because he needs to hear it and I won't gloss over things, as he knows.  But I won't enable him.  He has to figure things out and I cannot do it for him.

It's hard seeing them upset about it, but I agree with the above, that partly DH does not see how his actions/inactions are affecting the situation.

Exjuliemccoy's picture

I feel for you, Lt. Your post illustrates that even in step situations that are relatively calm, periodic problems pop up and periodic tweaks are necessary.

I applaud you for standing up for the boys, for yourself, and doing it with empathy. ((hugs))

ProbablyAlreadyInsane's picture

Lt_dad... Just so many Hugs your way!!! You're truly amazing and I'm glad that you're standing up for yourself and the boys and frankly your DH (He just doesn't realize it.)

PM me if you need.

(((HUGS)))

notasm3's picture

Here's the part you need to emphasize with your DH.  By this enabling of BM and the attitude that "someone has to take care of her" - he's going to end up saddling his children with a lifetime of having to take care of their mother.  He's setting the example that they will most likely follow.

Unfortunately there are real life examples of young college students who send part of their scholarship money to a worthless mother because "she needs it."   Does he want them to be hindered forever feeling like they can't use their money to buy a home, have a wedding, take care of their own children, plan for retirement because they are sending so much of their money to their "poor" mother.

When his children are grown, married and have children of their own that he needs to educate will they have empty bank accounts because they've been taught that their mother "needs that money"?