Update
I slept on the sofa and he left for work this morning without saying good-bye.
You know, I think he wants me to be "loving" toward them. I can't be. THEY. ARE. NOT. LOVABLE.
They do not behave in lovable ways. They are rude and destructive. Every moment spent with them is spent in "damage control" mode. They can't be left alone for 5 minutes without having done something seriously, seriously wrong. If they are quiet, even their father gets a horrified look on his face because he knows they are up to something really, really bad. They can't be trusted. I don't find that type of behavior "lovable."
For example: Last night when I asked him how he planned on dealing with them when they started to get out of control. The only thing he said was that he plans of "separating them." So I asked him where he plans on putting them while they are separated. He ignored me. Yup, ignored me. So I ignored the fact that he was ignoring me and went on to suggest that one be sat at the dining room table and the other on the sofa.
You know what he said? He said, "I can't do that. You know how destructive they get. If I sit them at the table or on the sofa, they will damage it."
:O
The worst part is, he is absolutely right.
Yet, he is worried about me being "too stern?" :?
I suppose what I find the most amazing is that he honestly feels that I should love them. I don't get it. Healthy people don't LOVE other people who act that way. He may love them because they are his children, but his expectation that others will love them too is completely founded in fantasy land.
This situation is so screwed up that I don't even really know how to handle it. The way things are now is that I am polite to them when they aren't being assholes and I try to only "discipline" (i.e. stand up for myself) when my DH isn't taking care of it. I've disengaged in the following ways:
I don't grocery shop for them:
I gave this up when they turned me buying food for them into a game of, "one week we'll like something, they next we won't"...
I don't cook for them:
I gave this up when the food that I cooked went cold, uneaten, ended up in the trash, and pizza replaced it on the table. Good job "Dad"...
I don't go pick them up from BM or drop them off from BM:
BM is psycho who has imaginary conversations and to whom people do imaginary things to. She can't be trusted. Also, the kids break out into fist fights in the car, scream, throw things, and then when someone tries to discipline them, they scream "ABUSE!" None of these people can be trusted.
I don't go to any of their activities:
See above.
I don't clean up after them:
Why would I? I don't even clean up after my own son.
I don't do their laundry:
Why would I? I don't even do my own sons laundry.
I don't play with them:
I refuse to take on the role of "friend" or "playmate" -- they have enough of those. Besides, every game I've tried to play with them in the past turned into a virtual bloodbath from their fighting and arguing.
I don't ask about their academics:
DH has demonstrated that he is not willing to participate in their academics and/or get involved or try to do something about SD's poor school performance. If he doesn't care, why should I?
I don't ask after their health:
DH has demonstrated that he is not willing to participate in their healthcare. As is evidenced in the fact that BM has SD heavily medicated on psychotropic drugs, yet he has never once followed through with talking to BM about why the kid is being medicated and/or calling the doctor who prescribed them. If he doesn't care, why should I?
I don't talk to them more than I have to:
Why should I? They aren't nice people.
I don't trust them in my bedroom and/or around my property:
Why should I? They have demonstrated time and time again that they have zero respect for other people's property (we are talking structural damage to the home and property damage inside the home. $1000's in damage.)
I don't make sure they shower and/or brush their teeth while they are here:
Why should I? If their father doesn't care if they are clean and/or that their teeth don't rot out of their head, why should I?
This year I won't buy them a separate Birthday and/or Christmas gift:
These kids won't even Thank the people who give them gifts. Their father has to hound them to do it. By then, it's clear that they aren't even in the slightest appreciative. Not to mention, that no one bothered to teach these children the skill of gift opening. That is, pretending to love a gift even if they don't. These kids open their gifts, and if they don't like the gift, they snarl at it, verbalize a "Eww. I didn't want THIS!" and throw it on the ground. They do this IN FRONT of the people who give them the gift! I. am. not. making. this. up.
I don't deal with BM in any way:
DH consistently refuses to stand up for himself as a father and a man. She jerks him around, he let's her. If HE isn't going to do anything about it, why should I? Plus, she's crazy.
AS OF LAST NIGHT:
I will no longer allow him to even talk to me about his kids at all:
Given that he obviously feels that I am such a horrible person and a horrible mother that he doesn't even want me TALKING to his children, why the hell should I listen to him even talk about them at all?
He has gone way too far. He has stabbed me in the eye for the last time.
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Right! Walk up to them with a
Right!
Walk up to them with a huge grin on my face, eyes all lit up, wrap my arms around them and oooooze about how grateful I am that they just shattered my great-great-grandmother's vase because they were whipping balls around in the house and bouncing them off the ceiling.
I mean, is DH so delusional that he thinks that the real world is going to respond that way to his children? Just because HE loves them?
I suppose he is. The evidence is in his parenting. Right?
That's why I say that these kids are going to end up in jail. They are going to damage someone's property who isn't going to think it's "cute." That person is going to press charges and they are going to end up in a shit ton of trouble. Especially since he doesn't consistently force them to apologize and/or to take responsibility for what they've done.
Shoot, some day that person may just be me. DH better recognize that when I say that I am not a willing and/or hapless victim for their behavior -- that I really mean that I am not a willing and/or hapless victim.
For these kids, they've been taught they can just do whatever it is that they want to do. And f*ck everyone else for trying to get in the way.
By the way, I forgot to say that I refuse to go out in public with them. The last time I went in public with both of them, they started screaming obscenities at the top of their lungs.
I mean, it was just 3 months ago that SD bit, swore at, and gave the middle finger to some girls in the McDonalds Playscape.
Yeah.
I also don't watch them for
I also don't watch them for him. I told him before we got married that he needed to make sure that he schedules his time with his kids for when he will be available to care for them. They do not come here to see me. Period.
I won't even watch them so that he can run up to the store for something. I refuse to be alone with them.
You sound strong and
You sound strong and determined in what you write - try and remain so, and hold your position. Make your DH start setting some boundaries for these out of control children, or make it clear you have had enough. Why the hell should you have to live like this with your home being damaged, and it sounds like maybe people too.
If you leave him over this - my parting shot would be "If you think you can find some other woman who will put up with this miserable existence of being ruled by out of control SKIDS - you are most sadly mistaken. "
They sound like they are out
They sound like they are out of control and your DH is LAZY. Doing the bare minimal to get by and hes had great results from doing that!
I don't blame you for disengaging, its really sad for the skids as they sound angry little things, and tbh that type of behaviour and attitude is self destructive. You would think your DH cared enough about them to address it and listen to your advice with respect. That would be too much work though huh?
In all seriousness though, I wouldnt want them in my home if they were destroying it. There are few occasions when I state this and apply it to minor kids, however thats one thing I would NOT put up with. That and violence, stealing, abuse. I mean DH can go with them elsewhere.
Not sure where you go from if your extreme disengagement doesnt work. Perhaps the above suggestion is an option, although I appreciate its really really hard when all you want to do is HELP your DH and skids, and make things better for everyone. It would be hard enough IF DH was a hands on firm disciplinarian having to address this behaviour, however when he just rolls over then all you can do is protect you and yours.
What is even moderately
What is even moderately attractive about this man?
My DH drives me crazy sometimes. But if he EVER thought to tell me I have to love his children despite their appalling behaviour towards me and absolute disresepct for the roof I put over their heads and really has nothing but a peripheral concern about his kids health, welfare and education I would be getting counselling and possibly an attorney.
I am not pro divorce. My divorce was thrust upon me by my ex 'in his Midlife Crisis on steroids'. But sometimes all the good stuff when you are alone is negated in the first snotty kid-reply to an innocent question. Then he doesn't support you? Please tell me his attractiveness is losing ground fast.
I would tell him counselling is on the books in the immediate future. Look at Daisy. She went to a counsellor with her husband who got read the counsellors riot act about how he is harming his child and his marriage. Please try.
^ THIS 100% ^ Last night was
^ THIS 100% ^
Last night was the straw that broke the camels back in me being able to compartmentalize this crap. Our time alone together has been slowly tainted by this situation. I can no longer pretend that they even separate issues.
He is demonizing me instead of recognizing HIS bad parenting.
I refuse to be a scapegoat.
I am flaming mad.
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I don't know how you can stay
I don't know how you can stay in a marriage like this. Do you and DH ever have any fun together? Do you enjoy each other's company? I didn't read any of your other blogs, but how often do you have his kids? I don't understand how people can live detached, if they have the skids 50%. That is half of your life detaching and ignoring people around you. I'm not sure it would be worth it to me. But then again, SO's daughter is graduating this week from HS and will be going to college in fall. We did not live together until last year, when she started having a life and was seldom around. I refused to live with him and have to ignore people around me every weekend. So our happy medium was for me to do what I pleased on weekends, and we spent our time together during the week when skids were with their mom. Just my opinion.
Yes, we have lots of fun
Yes, we have lots of fun together. And yes, we do enjoy each others company. Tremendously.
His kids are usually only with us EOW. He tries to have them one at a time, because they are controlled much easier if it's just one of them. So having the skids in our home, isn't something that we have to deal with a whole lot. However, it is just that when they are in our home, life IS unbearable.