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Pre-Visitation Jitters

Nymh's picture

Every time visitation day rolls around, I get a little antsy. Last time ss was here, bf actually talked to ss about me and asked him how he feels about me. SS told him that he really likes me but what he doesn't like is going home and dealing with his mom being mad because I'm around. I'm very happy about this! Now I know for a fact that ss likes me and biomom is just making stuff up when she goes on her rants and tries to tell me that he hates me.

Even so, I'm still nervous before visitation. I'm afraid I'll say or do the wrong thing and offend ss. I'm afraid I'll be around too much, or not enough. I don't have any children, so it's hard for me to relate to a young boy. At times I don't know what to say or do around him. I'm afraid of the things that his mother tells him when he's at home to try to make him not like me. I'm afraid that he will start asking questions of us that we won't know how to answer about the lies that she's told. I'm even a little afraid that she will come over and cause a scene in front of ss because I'm around.

When ss is around I try to be fun and cool. I'm so relieved that he likes me, but in a way that is opening up a whole new avenue of worry. Now I am afraid of losing it. I'm afraid that she'll somehow rut out his like for me and replace it with jealousy or something worse. I fear that he'll get so sick of her #($*@ing that he'll turn against the object of her obsession (me).

I know that most of this is just me being a worry-wart, but it feels good to get it out. I'm so glad to have a place where I can write about these things and know that it will at least be read. Before I found this place, it was like I had no one to turn to for support who knew what I was going through. Yay Smile

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Candice's picture

It looks like you wrote a book of my life with my ss. I met him when he was 4, and he use to go home talking about me so much, he ended up calling his mom Candice often. I'm sure that made her feel good.

Anyhow, the fighting for us happened when he turned 6, we announced our plans to get married, and bm just freaked out. We didn't have legal visiations, so when she planned to move to the other side of the state, we decided to establish a parenting plan. That sent bm into a rage of volcanic anger that lasted for years. That is when she began to vocalize her hate for me, and she always discussed what a horrible person I was to her 6 year old.

My advice to you based on my experience is to just really be yourself. Your ss likes you b/c you are a nice, fun person to be around. Don't exhaust yourself by trying too hard, or worry you aren't doing things so perfectly. Seriously, kids really like everyone that is nice to them, and they respect geniune people that command respect. You are causing yourself unnecessary anxiety by being so worried about walking on eggshells around this little boy you love. He is going to love you by just being yourself, and that is the best feeling in life.

You don't have kids (those were the same shoes I wore when I met my ss), so you feel a little less qualified to "parent" this little boy. I will aruge those feelings, b/c I don't think you have to be a parent to know to do the right things, or provide for a step-child. Part of the reason bm hated me so much is b/c I wasn't a parent and I did more to parent her son than she ever considered as a mother (for instance...I read to her son for a bed time ritual, where she never opened a book for him..she let him as a 4 year old stay up to 2 a.m. just so she didn't have to work to put him to bed).

In my experience, the ex has really contaminated my relationship with my ss for her own selfish reasons. He is now 12, and really talks a lot of trash about me. This really has hurt me personally b/c I have done a lot of good/fun things for him that he refuses to acknowledge. I did talk to a therapists about his hate for me, and one reason I was given was that my ss is angry with me for the fact that by just being normal I show him his mothers' deficiencies, and it really pisses him off. The explanation that I got for him talking trash about me was, my ss knows people want to hear bad things about me, so he fabricates drama about me just to get attention, it is like he is scoring bonus points with his bm bm's family and my in-laws, and they actually reward him with toys, things, events when he talks trash about me.

This has been really hurtful to me, and I personally have really sturggled with this, but as the "adult" in this situation I chalk it up to the bm/bm's family/my in-laws being so dysfunctional that they are using a 12 year old to hurt others for their own dysfunctional gain. One day, maybe just one day the light bulb will go off in his head, and he might actually read the handwriting on the wall, and he might even come around to liking me again.

My point about sharing this with you, is just be yourself b/c the both of you will really benefit from you not being so worried, and enjoy every precious moment you have with him while he likes you. I'm in the position where my ss is very resentful/bitter towards me, and it isn't fun when he comes here and thinks he can disrespect me in my home. Not saying that is going to be the case with yours, but enjoy every fun moment you can, b/c there may be sometimes where he isn't going to give you fun moments. Just relax and enjoy the moment!

Nymh's picture

Thank you so much for your long and heartfelt reply. A lot of my anxiety comes from the thought that I have nowhere to run to when I am scared or don't know what to do in regards to my situation. It's comments like yours that help me feel a lot more secure.

I got an email from BM before bf came back with ss on the most recent visitation that said basically: I want you to stay away from my son today, he doesn't even want to go on visitation especially since he knows you're going to be there, he says his day is going to suck since you're there. Then she has the audacity to say that she doesn't want me to respond to the email...so basically she's saying she needs to attack me and know that I will let her and not say anything about it. Her doing these things used to frustrate me before, when I wasn't sure that ss liked me...but now it just plain gets on my nerves because I KNOW that he likes me and she continues to blast me with this BS week after week. It never changes - she says the exact same thing every time. Lately I just ignore her completely because trying to rationalize with her is like talking to a brick wall.

*~So sayeth Nymh~*

goldenlife's picture

Their worse fear is not that we will mistreat their children. It is that their children will love us back.

They already lost DH to us and there's no way they will stand by and "lose" their children to us.

Sick and twisted but that's the way it is.

Nymh's picture

She has said that exact thing to me before. "You have my husband...YOU WILL NOT GET MY SON!!!!"

It's sad that she's so afraid that her son will like me...and she doesn't realize that all of her negativity and the bad things she does and says to and around him in regards to me are most likely only hurting her in the long run.

*~So sayeth Nymh~*

hopeful's picture

I have been thinking about biomoms and their relationship with step moms related to child care. My ex is with somone long term but he doesn't see the kids at all. However, if he did, having a virtual stranger looking after my children in such an intimate way as child rearing would not be something I would be real happy about. I suppose I would adjust, but it would be like leaving my children with a stranger of my ex's choosing which would be an issue.

I am not saying that this response is acceptable or even reasonable but I know that it would be a problem for me. I am so glad that I don't have to deal with this. I give everyone SO MUCH CREDIT for making the effort to provide guidance to their stepkids, especially under such challenging circumstances as with some of the exs. I know that I would not be strong enough to do it! So give yourself lots of credit ladies...you deserve it!

Nymh's picture

The thing that bothers me, though, is that she is very negative around her child, and has done such things in front of him as: follow me or her ex around town in her car, bring him to my house to witness her yelling and cussing me from my front porch, called me and my bf multiple times screaming and cussing, paid people for information on me, and several other psychotic and illegal things...after all that, and her providing this type of environment for her child, she is "afraid" of ME being around him?? I am the grounded, mature, and civil one; she is the psychotic evil vindictive one. I don't see how I would be a bad influence!

*~So sayeth Nymh~*

Candice's picture

the ex would only scream to communicate, and of course everything in life was my dh's fault...

Anyhow, we were going to install in our parenting plan that she was going to have to use a 3rd party to communicate b/c all she would ever do is scream at her son's father in front of him. Our attorney was going to put in a gag order to shut her up. What eventually worked psycho bm out was 1.) she actually showed up to dispute resolution (which is a 3rd party negotiation center with a lawyer and counselor present and they ended up YELLING at HER) and 2.) she finally found someone she geniunely loved. That is key, when the bm finally moves on...your life will become different. That is when she will start giving you credit for the nice person that you are...or what a great step-parent you are...and her son will only be thoroughly confused, and have some deep seeded anger that she will never confront and he will take out on you...

If you find bm screaming on your front porch, I would just shut the door.

Nymh's picture

So do you think I should be worried that it's never going to resolve if she's told me multiple times that she is not interested in dating or romance anymore? She says that she took her vows seriously and will never marry again. I'm sure this is part of the reason she hates me so much - I'm living proof to her that my bf didn't stick it out with her through everything. I know it is weird but that's how she supposedly feels.

*~So sayeth Nymh~*

Candice's picture

I would like to encourage you to do the opposite, and not worry about the ex. I know that is much easier said than done, but for every second that you spend of your own time worrying about the idea she will never move on, you are robbing yourself of the opportunity to really enjoy your life. I really believe that worrying about her is really counter productive energy.

I know you need to do some thinking about the ex b/c you need to brace yourself by anticipating her next move (that is the roller coaster ride), but the less you respond to her, the less progress she makes in chasing you off, which is ultimately her goal.

She thinks if you weren't there, she would have her ex back. It isn't true, however, that is what she thinks. It is going to take time for her to come to the conclusion that she isn't ever going to get him back. Until then, you must be vigilent in ignoring her every move as if she doesn't exist (this is very challenging).

I strongly encourage you to not worry about someone else's unproductive life. Take your own energy and put it into making progress for yourself, like thinking about doing something for yourself, planning a vacation, being the best employee, enjoying a hobby, whatever, but do not waste your precious time "worrying" over something you cannot fix!

lovin-life's picture

Can I take your words of wisdom and apply them to SD? I tried to respond to one of Paranoids posts earlier...but deleted it by accident...and ended up going in a slight different direction...

But I was thinking in my original post that if I found "me" again...as in my own friends..pursuing a more fulfilling job..my own hobby..furthering my education, etc. Would I not be so "needy" and feeling like I need re-assuances from hubby. I would have other sources of affirmation..to boost my soul..to keep me strong..to empower me! And all this "otherwise insignificant crap" from SD wouldn't get to me so much...

You know, I used to be quite the social butterfly proir to having kids, I was very independant, put myself through university, made headway as being one of the first women doing my job. I've worked underground in coal mines, on construction sites, alone-miles into logging roads..wading into rivers..etc.

I had a very excitng, productive, life!! Not so much anymore....
Since I had kids..

I can take what you say regarding x and apply it to SD... If she thinks that she can have Dad to herself like she did before I came along..she needs to know she can't run me off..
I need to get some positive energy & excitement back into my life..

The technique you discribe is known as "behaviour extinction"..eliminating an unwanted behavoir by ignoring it...it especially works if it is ..attention seeking behavior.

Just so you know...the offender usually gets worse before they get better...but the pros say it does work. But you cannot cave in!!

I really worked with hubby's nutty ex!! We here nothing from her now..but some of the scenes were pretty bad. And to walk away!!OMG it infuriated her that much more...that we wouldn't respond....

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