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StepG's picture

Is that normal? I have been with H since SS was about 3. He is now 8. When he was younger and we first got together it was difficult because of the whole guilt parenting by H but H got that under control real quick after about 6 months so things have been good up until about the last 6 months are so. Don't get me wrong things are not bad they just seem harder.

BM is mouthy and hateful and SS is bringing that attitude out at our home when you get on to him. Wether it be hurry up SS get your clothes on were late and SS repsonds in a hateful/aggravated tone "I am hurrying" UH no your not your staring at the floor and when I call him on the smart tone he says again in a smart tone "I am not being smart." Before Christmas his teacher who adores him called H to let him know (cause BM tells us nothing) that SS was struggling recently and pouting and smarting off when she corrected his work. Now H lets the smart mouth slide and sometimes he corrects him. I on the other hand am real quick to call him out on it. I was raised with an iron fist and I would never dream of speaking to my parents or any other adult in that tone. BM and SS talk to each other this way as BM has complained to us about it and we have heard from others. I cannot help how she allows him to act but I cannot stand it at my house. I had heart to heart with H yesterday about it and he admitted that he lets SS slide because he is not with us all the time and I told him he was doing SS a great disservice and how would he feel if SS smarted off to him in front of people at church would it embarass you that your son talks to you that way? and what about him talking to the teacher that way? in SS mind if dad and mom do not get onto me for talking that way to them then it must be OK to talk to others that way. Then SS has these "looks that could kill" when tell him to cut the xbox off or you have told him the 3rd time to pick his stuff up. Then he cries without fail when you get onto him. Now the crying does nothing but infuriate H and I and SS knows that but boy howdy if he does not cry louder and harder and yells for his mommy - when just 5 minutes earlier he is telling us how his mom is always mad at him and yelling at her BF and hitting him. Now I remember crying as a child when I got in trouble cause my feeling were hurt my mom was yelling at me and I would try to fight back the tears cause she would whip me for crying. Now the attittude I have described makes up for about 10% of his behavior while he is with us. The other 90% he is hanging on his H and I telling us how much he loves us and tells us we are special cause we are a team and love each other. He will be playing his game in his room and H and I watch TV in living room and SS will come to the door and say Love Ya'll and then go back to playing. SS truly is a good kid with all heart but the attitude I cannot take it.

As with most of you here due to child support payments that H makes most of what SS has at my house is due to me. We provide stability and discipline but also the luxuries like going to the movies and vactaions to the beach every year and doing kid activities. I just feel so unappreciated by SS but then I think StepG he is only 8 how do can you expect him to see what you and really understand it?

Is this normal for boys or all kids? Like I said I never acted this way because I would have been slapped down and I know his BM allows it but at what age do you hold the kid accountable for their actions as he knows it is wrong?

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bellacita's picture

i have been in SD3's life since she was one and lived w DH since she was 2. i worry that things will get so much worse, w her AND BM, as time goes by. 15 years is a lloooooonnnnggggg time to deal w skids and BM drama...hang in there! youre almost halfway there! Wink

"Given the right reasons and the right two people, marriage is a wonderful way of experiencing your life."
~the late great George Carlin

StepG's picture

is about it. He is real good about making him do right and help out around the house and not give us crap. H has always had to be the bad guy. I agree that BM does the PAS thing to SS about us and that is why SS acts the way he does to us in her presence but when she is not around he is very loving and affectionate with us. I know now what my mom meant when she said raising kids is hard! I know the smart mouth comes from mom's home cause they smart mouth each other at her house and it is creeping out at ours. I talk to H about it yesterday and he had long talk with SS about it and advised him that he would be losing hours of his xbox time from here on out for every time he smarts off and it can lead to total removal of the xbox. I have said it once and will say it again being with a man who has a child not my own is the hardest thing I have ever done!

stepmasochist's picture

Xbox restriction is a good idea. That's exactly what I was thinking when I read your blog. And as for the crying and whining thing, we have zero tolerance for that at our house. If a kid wants to bawl over some bs, they go to their room and do it and they do it so we don't hear them. Seemed kind of cruel to me at first, but it's been very effective, for the most part.

SD7 gave us a real hard time with crying, fit throwing and such, but she loves to stay with her nana (FH's mom) and occasionally FMIL will take turns taking one of the three skids at a time to stay the night with her. We made her skip SD7 a couple of times when she recently pitched a fit about one of the others staying and she straightened up. We haven't had any fit throwing and crying because she didn't get her way in over two weeks now, which is a record.

Not having any bio kids myself, I'm new to this and am quickly coming to understand you've gotta hit 'em where it hurts when it comes to discipline and sounds like this kid's kryptonite is his xbox.

As for the smart mouth, I handle that the way I did when I was substitute teaching, which is a LOT like stepparenting as far as having to constantly re-establish authority. If you tell them something like "hurry up" and they come back with a snippy-toned "I AM hurrying!"
My response is "I DID NOT ask as you a question so I DID NOT require a response. Do as you're told." If I can put the right look and tone behind that, it usually works. With the skids, after they've completed the task at hand, they tend to get a little more info on the finer points of back-talking with carefully outlined repercussions for doing so.

Just be consistent and make sure H's guilt parenting is in check enough to be on the same page with you. Without dad's backup, nothing ever seems to work.

~The best gift parents can give their children is to love each other.~

Sia's picture

age thing more than a step issue. My own BS (now 10) started this mouthy crap at that age and my other BS8 is starting with it too. Drives me up a wall, and both DH and I discipline for it, but NOTHING seems to help. I think it's just a phase they have to get through. That said, don't mistake me for taking it lightly. I DO NOT tolerate the smartness, I do punish, sometime severely, and they know I mean business. My aunt always used to say that you know you have good kids when they will not act the same in public as they do at home (badly that is). They do not smart off to anybody else, so I guess that's a good thing!

SM#1's picture

my SD9 does this too. It started about 6 months ago. I thought it was a pre-puberty phase. SD9 has been a lot better for 1 month now (yes I am counting the weeks!). She has not lied about me or my BS and has been well behaved at home. Maybe kids will be over it prior to puberty or just continue it into puberty.....I hope for your sake and mine it is short lived.

spitfire's picture

My SS9 is mouthy at school b/c his mom allows him to mouth off at her house but it doesn't happen at our house cause he tried once a caught hell for it and has never done it since BUT we can't figure out how to get him to not do it at school. That is my #1 rule that children should never mouth off to adults.