reconnecting
looking for ideas. as ya'll know, dh and i have had a lot going on. we've gotten emotionally distant, which is very painful. my needs are being neglected by the one person i care most about in the whole world, and he is so depressed and defensive and emotionally exhausted he doesnt even want to wake up each day.
i'm crying all over again now, sheesh...
ok, so i need practical ideas from you long-timers. what do you do when attempting to reconnect with your husband? this is not a "bad patch" of a few months. sadly this has gradually happened over the last few years. i'm looking for suggestions on things that will bring strength to the core of our marriage, not just a temporary or surface fix.
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I am a firm believer that a
I am a firm believer that a french kiss a day keeps the marriage blues away. You just can't be emotionally connected without the intimacy.
I usually also try to do something he likes to do with him or encourage him to get out to do whatever it is. Think back to the things you did before all the "normal crap" set in.
I send my SO a text once a week that tells him something I find attractive about him or thanks for doing whatever. Sometimes I tell him "when you did XYZ it made me feel loved so I wanted to let you know that I appreciated it".
Is it desire that has faded?
Is it desire that has faded? Or the emotional intimacy? Or the sense of daily connectedness?
For desire, I have a saved TED talk I haven't watched yet - let me know!
http://www.ted.com/talks/esther_perel_the_secret_to_desire_in_a_long_ter...
For emotional intimacy, here's another TED talk I haven't watched yet. Maybe there's a tip in there?
https://www.ted.com/playlists/211/the_art_of_meaningful_conversa
For just feeling love(d), this is so beautiful - including most of the click-throughs.
https://www.brainpickings.org/2015/03/31/how-to-love-thich-nhat-hanh/
For myself, I also go through similar ups-and-downs in terms of feeling close with DH. Sometimes I have to say right out loud what I want from him. But, similar to you, for a while I've felt like I ought not place any more demands on him, he's got enough going on. And so I put up and shut up and then not only are my needs not met, but OUR needs, the needs we have together in order to stay a happy couple, those don't get met either.
And this is what Iyanla has to say about that: http://www.oprah.com/oprahs-lifeclass/Why-You-Should-Put-Yourself-First-...
Work in progress, tuff, work in progress.
i havent had a french kiss in
i havent had a french kiss in what feels like forever - i like that idea.
when we sit next to eachother he always leans the opposite direction. same for sleeping at night he's always facing away from me. i would love for him to just put his arm around me sometimes. we used to have wonderfully deep conversations, now it's just surface talk, usually interrupted by kaos or getting just one-word responses from dh. i've told him for a LOOOONG time that it feels more like roommates than husband/wife. the other day he finally admitted i was right. and yet nothing gets changed.
he says he misses my cooking, which is an expression of love. so i happily cook brunch yesterday AND dinner, and it goes half-wasted. and we argue about stupid stupid $#it that always snowballs into something far more severe. and he honestly believes i dont care anymore, which couldnt be further from the truth. but i even told him last night i'd start to look for my own place as it was obvious i'm part his his unhappiness.
i dont know. i do know "this too shall pass" but i dont want to just take things day by day like how an old donkey out in field just puts one foot in front of the other cuz that's all it knows to do.
Unfortunately no matter how
Unfortunately no matter how badly you want to fix something , if the other person isn't invested in fixing things too ....nothing will ever change....except you will end up that much more hurt from the constant rejection. I tried for years to make things work with my exDH...it was a one way street and when the shit hit the fan , I left him and moved on with my life.
I'm with a great guy now and I look back at who I had become in my failed marriage and it breaks my heart...I was so sad , just miserable and going through the motions with the desperate hope that things would get better...which they never did.
I hope your marriage gets back on the right path , but have you thought about what you will do it if doesn't ? Life is too short to be unhappy.
Maybe switch stuff up and lay
Maybe switch stuff up and lay behind him, sometimes the guys need to feel safe and loved too.
My man leaves me notes, sprays my pillow with his cologne, rose in my car so I find it when I leave to go to work so sometimes (we have big schedule conflicts) I will get up at 5am to cook him breakfast before he goes to work. I will buy his favorite treats, hide them then slip them in his lunch bag. Sometimes I spray his work shirts with my perfume so he has to smell me all day.
Every Friday I send him a email with a song that reminds me of him with the lyrics listed. We now have a great collection on the ipod with all of "our songs" so when we are together cooking we play our songs and it is kind of like having a little secret because we are the only ones that know they are "our" songs.
This is great advice,
This is great advice, sometimes the way back to others is by finding yourself again. Well said clevergirl!
Yup. Read the book, Crazy
Yup. Read the book, Crazy Time, she articulates this really well.
That book is AWESOME!! It
That book is AWESOME!! It helped me more than any other book I have read.
who is the author?
who is the author?
Okay, Sueu2 did the
Okay, Sueu2 did the meaningful post once again. I was thinking 2 rather shallow things:
** Roadtrip. I have found my best connection in the cab of a truck. Straighten up, you know what I mean. Guy -- looking forward/no direct meaningful looks, non-confrontational eye contact. Objects on the road may require attention as he thinks of a response. You --- intimacy bubble. Hand on thigh/hand. Connecting, discussing challenges, hopes & dreams or whatever.
** Double recliner. Seriously, even if you're feeling a bit cross or disconnected ... a double-wide kinda forces you to physically acknowledge the other. Comfort and snuggle before you realize it. It's so easy to physically disconnect in a household. This is one family room accessory which will pay dividends, in my experience. Intimacy is not begun in the bedroom, although it can be extended to the recliner if kidlets aren't home. Warning: cats, small dogs and kids (even middle-school) will notice the vacuum of one body in a double recliner and rush to fill it.
Neither of these ideas address depression. That's a doctor/counselor thing. But it's about not sitting on the deck drinking alone, while DH is elsewhere alone, as well. I'll bet that both of you feel it, even if you're the one who puts it into words. {Hug}
oh sally that article is
oh sally that article is incredible. i am literally in tears- i have already printed it out. "turning away" behaviors is so accurately descriptive...
alright, ladies, i'm back for
alright, ladies, i'm back for the next 8+ hours of grinding it out at my desk... ugh.
thank ya'll so very much for your thoughtful responses. no babybugged, no affair or porn. and sue, yes i am very much in a position to be on my own if need be.
i did a mild version of the french kiss idea last night. he came and seeked me out, actually having a lovely conversation with me (not me talking at him and getting one-word responses, but him actually taking the lead). he doesnt apologize with words, that's not his style - he does it with actions and attitude. so it was sweet to have a simple, nice conversation. a few minutes later he came out of the bathroom and i ambushed him with a hug - he held me tightly for a good while, then said "i'm not sure what that was for, but i'll take it!" so maybe not a french kiss a day, but maybe one nice long tight hug a day would feel great.
sue, clever, i appreciate your advice and i will use it. i've gotten so caught in doing every day life that i've lost sight of doing me. and maybe dh will do the same. he mentioned very sadly the other day "h3ll i dont even bother to shave anymore." and me, i dont ever wear my hair down, i put on makeup maybe once a week, i dont ever wear jewelry other than my rings. something so stupidly simple as feeling well put together when i walk past a mirror.
and i need a good book or two. i need to go visit the bookstore on lunchbreak and see what they've got on the clearance table.
sometimes it's hard tho' cuz my home-life consists of escaping kaos and letting dh deal with him. he is so physically and emotionally and mentally draining that i literally have to not be in the house with him. so i'm gonna have to figure something out about that...
and yes ladies, he is medically depressed among other things. he's been to a few head doc's to no avail. he's fighting stuff he's fought all his life, so it's no big surprise. he does take various medications, but the effectiveness is half-@$$ed. it brings some measure of balance inside, but he does have his off-kilter days...
well, with all that being said, thanks again for the insights, advice and words of wisdom. this site has been such a support to me, way beyond words.