Response from bf regarding BM coming into the house.
Says he talked to her and one boy who let her in.. Says I am making him call and crucify them for something so stupid as a slip up that was only for two minutes. Says I'm putting him in a very uncomfortable situation by making these demands. Said all she did was come in and grab stuff for boys.. And go.. UMM they are 16 and 17 and can walk themselves and their shit out the door on their own. Not buying that. Says she says she feels better waiting in the car anyway.. Hmmm then why didn't she do that today. Says I'm looking for shit to Bitch about because I've got things going on in my life..(I do have a health problem right now but it's only recent and this had been going on for years with him) I said I would be more than glad to talk to boys about it myself.. He said no.. Hes already done it.
He dismissed the importance of his and tried to make me feel like I'm being an unrealistic bitch that has nothing better to do with my time. Says I'm not giving him any breathing room at all because if it's not this it's another regarding his x wife.. That's true.. Says he can't control her. True also. However he can respect my needs and wishes.. And he does not. Yet he defends her..
I said I'm done.. No more talking about it. Make a decision and I hung up. I won't answer my phone.. Or I'll throw it across the room.
I stand by my conclusion that
I stand by my conclusion that no crime has been committed. If you showed up while she was in the house ordering her out and she refused then there would be a crime of trespassing.
I told you not to start WWIII over this and now she's ended it by saying she'll stay in the car. I knew she knew her boundaries she just didn't know that a line had been drawn. Your husband never told her and kids are kids. Now she knows and I've got a hundred bucks she never enters the house again.
You WON - yaaah. Not let go of it as even people who don't think you're a bitch will come to that conclusion if you continue this one sided battle.
No offense to anyone.. I do
No offense to anyone.. I do not wish to get police involved at all.. Never crossed my mind.. I've talked to this man about this over and over.. Calmly and nicely.He says he uunderstands but I know he'll never feel the way I do because because he has such an emotional tie to her still. I ffeel it's hopeless. He was all pissed off when I called and acted like he felt the same way.. He sounded really pissed at what she had done.. Then after he talked to her he became pissed at me.. Saying it's stupid... How sad.. He just gave himself walking papers.
thank you. exactly He
thank you. exactly
He refuses to establish these boundaries and the drama continues.
I would bitch too. But if he
I would bitch too. But if he has had it out with the kids and they are still doing it, they are not to be alone in the house or have keys to the house. Very easy.
Keys are coming back as I
Keys are coming back as I don't want any of them now having keys.. I found a spare key hidden outside that I know I didn't put out there.. No more..
Change the locks. You don't
Change the locks. You don't know who has copies of those copies!
If they are still doing it
If they are still doing it and he doesn't want you to talk to them directly, sorry, but I don't buy that he has actually spoken with any of them.
Oh AND he says that he's
Oh AND he says that he's gotten her to finally do part of the pick up and drop off as she always refused.. And now I'm bitching about that.
He just can't win.
I've been going to counseling
I've been going to counseling once a week for 6 months.. He went to one session and never went back. We aren't even married so it's not that completed if things go south.. Exactly.. If he would have handled it we wouldn't have such issues..
I went through that. He would
I went through that. He would allow her all over the house preparing SS weekend bag even though he already had one packed by me and SS. She hugged DH goodbye and made suggestive comments to him. Talked to me like she employed me. I turned the whole thing around like she was our babysitter for the weekend. Well she was in a way because she handed her son over aged 3mths to DH following 5yrs of IVF and 1000s of pounds. DH 'employed' another poor woman to bring up his son until he was 7yrs. She started kicking off about his ex then his ex and himself got her out in a very cruel way in the courts saying that SS didn't need another parent because even though they were divorced, they were still a very tight family and that the woman was causing problems. All she wanted was contact with a boy that SHE had raised. He never married the woman so she didn't have a leg to stand on. Less than a year later, he met me, another employee. Following a nasty argument, I went to my mums for a week and when I returned, she called me screaming down the phone. How dare you abandon my son! She told me in her temper that my DH and her talk on the phone every day and they still love each other deeply. He denied laughed and said he only spoke to her while I was away. I then told him that if she ever came near my home again that I would rip her head off. SS was then 14 so he would walk up the road to meet her. Outcome... 4yrs later, I agreed that the 3 of them could have a family meeting about SS moving in with her which was DH idea. He came back and said that if I can't live in same house as his son then it's over. Mentalgirl I think the writing is on the wall for both of us. Big hugs (((())))
Everyone will be happier if
Everyone will be happier if you two go your separate ways.
By the way a good counselor should have given you the tools you need in 2 or 3 months. It's been a waste of money after 3 weeks if you didn't find them helpful.
Like a lawyer its often just about the money.
For 13 years everytime DH's
For 13 years everytime DH's ADULT kids are in town, of course, they visit here as well as the ex (their mom). However, the ex ALWAYS has to drive them here despite the fact the ADULT kids have their own cars. The story was always the same - the ex would drop off 1 kid, then needed to speak to another kid that was in our house, so it turned out to be a revolving door. And of course, it ALWAYS happened at dinner.
I remember a couple years ago when the same shit was going on that I finally said "since your mom is here again, should I invite her in for supper?" I guess my message got acrossed and she finally left for the day.
I told my DH that if HIS ex was always going to be coming over, then I might invite MY ex to visit as well. This didn't go over too well.
*Sigh* I've said this about a
*Sigh*
I've said this about a dozen times now on these boards. Never, ever, EVER let the ex into your house! They come in, see one empty bottle of beer on coffee table and next thing you know *BAM* CPS is being called and you are accused of being an alcoholic and an unfit parent (I WISH I was exageratting).
I get that Mentalgirl feels violated here, but there is a bigger picture here that everyone needs to see ESPECIALLY her BF. You never give the enemy any kind of intelligence on what your living conditions are like. Heck, I pull the blinds and put my garbage out back whenever Donkeykong shows up. The less he knows what is inside my house the better!
Exactly!! Bf doesn't get
Exactly!! Bf doesn't get this.. At all.. She doesn't need to know anything that's inside my home... Say if we left private information out.... Anything.. She would then see it.. How can he beoOK with that!
I just think this is all very
I just think this is all very bizarre - I have NO desire to enter my ex husband's house - EVER. I think it's strange that people do this!
if BM is well educated as you
if BM is well educated as you say, then i would tell her your plan to file a no tresspass order and she should be smart enough to respect it.
not sure why this
not sure why this happens...yup he things I am totally out of line for being pissed about it...whats the big deal he says??!!!
THey are raising children to
THey are raising children to disrepect boundaries..how terribly sad..and it makes me sick...these kids will never understand or comprehend this..and will go through life thinking this kind of behavior is acceptable..how sick. But its MAMMA!! she should be able to go where ever she pleases!! Thats what is being taught to these already spoiled brats...
Grrrrrrrrrr is right