You have got to be frackin' kidding me!
Just got off the phone with DH. He was telling me he had a nice LONG talk with BM this morning. Seems that SheSloth ran straight to BM and started crying that she wants to move back in with her! That she isn't having any fun living here! Of course she isn't!!! She is FINALLY being punished for something, and every other time she has gotten into any kind of real trouble where a real punishment was involved (which, by the by, only happened when she lived with BM), she ran off to the other parent's house and didn't have to deal with the mess she created! So, she expects the same to happen now...for once, DH is backing me on punishment...basically because he doesn't have a choice because she did something that effected me. Oh...poor thing...wants to now run to BM's because things are SOOOOO bad here! She isn't getting the bigger bedroom. The girls in guard don't like her. Her phone and internet have been turned off. WHATEVER!
That isn't what really ticks me off.
DH goes on and asks if there is any hot chocolate in the house. I tell him there is not. He's all like, "Oh...well, I promised her after she got home from the game tonight that we would sit together hand have some hot chocolate." I literally threw up in my mouth a little! I told him, "Um, she is supposed to be in trouble!" "It's not like I'm giving her her phone and internet back. You can't stay mad at her the whole time. You still have to be a parent." WHAT THE HELL? You want to be a parent? You should have been coming down on her ass the whole time, and not just now when you have no other choice but to do it because she did something against me! So, now because his precious wants to run back to BM's, he's gonna kiss her ass...which means I'm banking the punishment is over by Wednesday of next week...and that is a very conservative estimate! I'm also willing to bet he is going to try to make me reconsider the room thing...oh hell no! And she is NOT going to RenFest! If he says she goes, then none of us are going! No sweat off of my back! It's my money we are using to go anyway!
I didn't think I could be more pissed than I was when I found out SheSloth had had the yearbook, and lied to us about it. I'm shaking! I'm really wishing I had a punching bag here at the house right now, because I feel the urge to hit something!
Of course, he is doing all this ass kissing, and SheSloth can't go back to BM's anyway. BM has already said her husband will not allow it! He doesn't want to deal with SheSloth (because BM parents even less than DH, if that is possible), and he doesn't want that crap (the pot and drinking that SheSloth does there) around his young son! So I'm stuck with her here, and DH's ass kissing to make her feel like she is having fun! Seriously, if my ex had stayed in the picture, and I found out one of my bios tried to pull that crap with him (i.e., call him when I grounding them begging to move in with him, because they just aren't having fun here), you know what my response would have been? "Oh, so you aren't having fun living with me? You are going to think living here is no fun!" Yup, that my friend would have bought extra chores, and added time to their punishment. Don't go crying to the other parent when you dug a hole for yourself! SheSloth is the cause of the guard girls not liking her!! SheSloth can only blame herself for getting grounded...shouldn't have "lost" the book and lied about it! SheSloth can only blame herself for not moving to the bigger room...all she basically had to do was keep her room clean for 3 months! No, she probably cried to her mom that I'm such a b***h, and I hate her, and daddy lets me hate her, etc. I don't really care! But DH better NOT come to me with some SheSloth sob story saying I need to try to build a relationship with the girl to make her want to live here because she is afraid of me and thinks I hate her! Girl needs to be afraid of me! Maybe she will think twice about doing stupid crap!
Who knows. And now that Miss
Who knows. And now that Miss Princess is all upset, the LAST thing BM will do is rat her out if she does, because BM sees me as a total b***h, that, and if it is proven that SheSloth stole it, I may DEMAND the girl leave my house, and she can't have that because her husband doesn't want SheSloth, either. Makes one wonder...neither step wants this kid around? Might it possibly be the kid and the lack of parenting? No...I'm sure it is my fault shared with BM's husband!
I did say I was being
I did say I was being conservative! }:)
BM called DH this evening
BM called DH this evening that it was a mistake calling him about the possibility of SheSloth moving back. Apparently, her son got into something, and now she and her husband are in a screaming match with him saying, "You can't even take care of _____, and you even want to consider SheSloth moving back?" Yeah...this is the BM I'm dealing with!
DH then says that he is certain that SheSloth would like nothing more than BM to divorce her husband and move back in with her mom, so SheSloth can move back with BM. I had to say it..."Oh, so the two of them can live there forever?" I proceeded to tell DH my fear that SheSloth would never launch, as she can't take care of herself! DH tried to say she could if she has to...she just doesn't think she has to. You know how hard it was to keep it to myself that she doesn't wipe her ass with him saying that?
Wow ~ the movie Big Daddy
Wow ~ the movie Big Daddy just popped into my head ~ the line " but I wipe my own ass "
Here it
Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s5DIhK0jzg
LOL
Bark ~ you and I have
Bark ~ you and I have matching humor !!! Ha ha ha
Well, he still believes the
Well, he still believes the lie was to cover that she lost the book, which he is trying to say she really feels bad about. He refuses to believe she did anything malicious. She knows how to lay it on with DH! I'm certain she still has it somewhere, and only told DH she looked for it and couldn't find it.
I can't believe he said what he did, either....about the parenting part. I can believe the hot chocolate. The day SheSloth got in trouble for having alcohol at school, he took her for ice cream to sit and talk about it!
Yep - they are ALL the
Yep - they are ALL the same.
The day my ss threatened to punch my dd in the face EX-OH took him to play ball and talk about it.... talking consisted of "I know she's annoying but don't do that again" followed up with *head ruffle* and "now - lets shoot some hoops!" (I know because I heard it! - man was I pissed off)
I think she was JEALOUS - and
I think she was JEALOUS - and if she truly felt bad, then she would've broken by now and turned herself in because guilt is a disgusting feeling and I doubt she'd want to stay with it very long.
I've been following your thread and I just feel awful about it for you, because I can't imagine wanting something so badly that I would TAKE it from my brother and then if I did, not even feel badly about it.
Growing up - my parents would NOT be playing nicey-nice with me afterwards. That's what punishment is about, and THAT is parenting. You did something stupid, now you're in trouble. Deal with it. Next time, don't do said stupid thing. If my brother or I needed a "talking to" it was a coming to Jesus and there were tears, not our parent's either...no ice cream or hot chocolate. Positive reinforcement of the bad behavior. She knows she won't "really" get in trouble, so why should she stop being selfish? She might even get a treat out of it.
BM has a way of getting her
BM has a way of getting her way...where do you think SheSloth learned manipulation? From the sound of it, BM tried to change SF's mind, but this time, he is standing his ground. Guess he found where BM hid his balls and took them back. Wish DH would realize where SheSloth is keeping his! SF holds all the cards in that house as BM doesn't work, and depends on him for everything!
And SheSloth does hate SF. She has said she wishes BM would just divorce him. She has probably said the same with regards to me, too!
Oh...I do my best to not even
Oh...I do my best to not even be around her! Yes, when I see her I want to smack her!
Oh, I'm thinking email all
Oh, I'm thinking email all her teachers. Think I've figured out how and not be in trouble. If it gets to DH that I did it, I'll just say, "Well, you know how she looks for things! Even at home, she stands in the middle of the room going in circles saying she can't find it! I though maybe, one of the teachers found a yearbook in their class that no one claimed. Doesn't hurt to give it one more go...I paid for the book, so it could be a nice keepsake if it's found." That way, I don't make it sound like I believe she stole it, and I could get some good intel if one of the teachers saw her getting her friends to write in it..."Oh, yeah...she had one in my class getting signatures...."
I doubt the SF would help me for be it. In 14 years (as he is the guy BM cheated on DH with), it don't think the two of us have said more the three words to each other.
"Think I've figured out how
"Think I've figured out how and not be in trouble"
I don't understand why asking the teachers if they've seen the book (or found one in a classroom) would 'get you in trouble' I wouldn't lie about emailing teachers. One of your biggest complaints about your SD is all your lying and excuses...so why you want to lie/make excuses to your DH while trying to 'catch' SD?
Why not just inform your DH that you intend to pursue looking for the yearbook and one of the steps in doing so is contacting the teachers to see if they can shed any light on the subject? This girl picked up this book and signed for it as receiving it. She did this at school. So obviously the book was at least in the school building along with SD at least for a while. Seems like emailing the teachers (especially as the office basically blew it off) is a natural step in trying to hunt it down.
Whether the girl it to keep and is hiding it or it got stolen from the girl because she was careless about it while in her possession. Bottomline is still the girl received had it in her hands in the school and now you're looking for it. There's nothing wrong in you seeking the book or wanting to know what happened to it.
I personally wouldn't give a sh*t what DH that of you trying to retrieve the book/find out exactly what happened to it. The school and your DH are just as guilty (but in a different way) than SD is that you did not receive the original intended book you ordered and paid for. You asked him to pick it up and he tossed it off to SD to do it for him. The school itself was careless in calling SD to pick up a book that did not belong to her and they had no business releasing to her.
You know...you are right! I
You know...you are right! I have every right to email the teachers to inquire about BS19's property! And if DH asks why, a simple, "Was doing my due diligence to find the original book" should be good enough for him! If he interprets that as "you just don't trust her at all", then maybe that is something he needs to work on with SheSloth! I mean, if that is the first thing that pops into his mind, maybe it's because deep down, he knows I'm right not to trust her!
... I read all the parenting
... I read all the parenting books people gave my DH (both when his spawn was hatched and post divorce) the divorce ones for dad train them to be guilty dads. I have the feeling it was written by a miniwife, as it had scenarios in it about how after having a "stern but respectful" conversation with child about xyz problems then it is best to cheer the child up with physical affection, compliments, and/or a treat you can both enjoy. Wish I still had that book, but I literally flung it from my second story window and told DH to pick up the trash off the lawn.
CantKeepDoingThis, your DH is delusional. My SD doesn't even get dessert these days if she had a late homework assignment, or was caught half assing anything she is responsible for. And no more heart to hearts over tea or cocoa (it used to happen in this house) she is a child, not DH's equal, so he needed to stop treating her as such. The greatest disrespect anyone under about 21 can get is to have a parent who treats them as equals.
BM and DH have always tried
BM and DH have always tried to treat SheSloth as an equal, and that is part of the problem! BM has ALWAYS had a bad habit of involving SheSloth in adult issues she had no business being involved in. DH would always say BM was wrong for that, but then do the same thing! I mean, I can't remember how many times the girl was involved in conversations regarding custody terms and child support terms that she had no business knowing anything about...it was something that should have been kept between the adults! When SheSloth's aunt was dying of cancer...instead of the child-like "she is just really sick" talk that most of us would have had with our kids, BM involved SheSloth in EVERYTHING! When BM's parents broke up? Yup, SheSloth knew that it was because grandpa cheated on grandma with some girl he went to high school with! SheSloth was only 7 at the time!!! She should have not been privy to any of that!
So, yeah...DH's way of handling things with SheSloth is to sit down with her over coffee/cocoa/ice cream and "talk" about it! Even when SheSloth lived at BM's, and BM would call DH because of something SheSloth did...instead of going over there and presenting a united front with BM that whatever was unacceptable, and that SheSloth would have to be punished for it, DH would take her to Starbucks or Dairy Queen...just the two of them...for a "talk". These talks usually resulted in SheSloth saying that BM and SF was blowing things out of proportion, and DH kindly telling her that she just needed to try to get along with them...rather than telling her, "Look...stop acting like you are a spoiled brat. When they tell you something...it is yes ma'am, yes sir...you do it!" Okay...maybe not that blunt...or maybe that blunt...but the general message of you respect your elders, you are not grown, you do not run the house!
I think society today is screwed up by these stupid books by the so-called experts! "You have to talk to them...you have to make them take a time out." HA! Look where that is getting folks...with bratty kids! I spanked. I demanded respect. I used the word "no" quite often. And look what I got...two kids with whom I'm great friends with now that they are adults...kids who are respectful, tender hearted, and hard working! Kids who look at their younger sister and say, "What the hell? Oh no she didn't just talk to our mom that way!"
And of course, we have
And of course, we have SheSloth saying she needs clothes! She "needs" jeans and regular bras, because some shirts just don't look right with sports bras! I quickly told DH, "Um, we just got her regular bras a few months ago, and she hardly wore them befor she asked for sports bras and started living in those. Jeans? Got her jeans earlier this year...the same brand jeans I wear, and she hardly wore them because she wears leggings as pants! These jeans do not wear out that fast...all mine are two years old, and I wash more regularly than she does! Before ANY new items of clothing get bought, she needs to CLEAN her room and figure out what she has! Girl has more clothes than you, and always says she 'needs' more...bullshit!"
He said this, because I was heading to H&M...SheSloth is at BM's. The are having a sweater sale this weekend, and I was looking for a couple of oversized to be comfy. While there, I see an extra long high low t-shirt, and pointed out that that was the type of shirt appropriate to wear leggings with. DH says I should buy it for SheSloth! Really? I tell him, "Oh hell no! She still owes me nearly $100 for a yearbook she 'lost'! Why would I spend money on her?" His response? "Just to be nice. Show mercy." I put the shirt back on the rack, rolled my eyes at him, and walked away! He seriously doesn't get it! Girl gets nothing that isn't an absolute need right now! If she truly needs jeans...as it is cold now...fine. If she is just wanting jeans because she can't find hers from earlier in the year or doesn't want to wash? Hell no! We don't buy clothing because everything is dirty!
"Show mercy" Mercy went out
"Show mercy"
Mercy went out the window when SD didn't immediately fess up, come clean with exactly what she has done/or happened to the yearbook and wasn't genuinely remorseful for having been a little greedy jealous brat.
Mercy now? Your DH is quite the jokester :sick:
These Disney dads don't get
These Disney dads don't get that this is a life lesson! He doesn't believe she "lost" the yearbook on purpose...that it was an innocent accident, and I should give her a break on that part...she is already being punished for the lying. Newsflash...that's not the way it works in the real world!!! Say SheSloth borrowed a roommate's necklace and lost it. Even if it was an innocent accident, that roommate will still expect some sort of repayment for the lost property! If SheSloth is driving, and bumps into another car...that person is going to expect payment for the damage. That may mean you end up giving up some things to pay them back if you don't have the money in hand! May have to cancel plans to go to the movies that weekend, or take some purchases back to the store and return them to get back the money to pay the other person. Life lesson! You can't just say sorry and not compensate the person for loss or damage to their property!
But, as we see every day, these parents aren't preparing their kids! Like when I expressed concern about SheSloth launching..."she doesn't feel she needs to take care of herself right now." At 15, girl should be getting herself out of bed! She shouldn't be told to pick up after herself. She shouldn't be told to do laundry!
Yup...denial...it's not a
Yup...denial...it's not a river in Egypt!
After the bit in the store, he tries to tell me, "You didn't hear the things she said last night in our talk." I responded, "Really? Seems every time you two have a 'talk', she is going to make some amazing change to be better. You try to say that she is trying, but all she does is the same crap with the same crappy attitude! The 'change' if there is one only lasts long enough to get her what she wants!"
For that very reason, I ask
For that very reason, I ask to be included in the talks or guess what? They talk again, with me present. I went through that two Fridays ago after I filmed all of the weird shit that SD13 had left around the house. Still can't get a straight answer on the underwear. DH tried to say that they already spoke about things and I told him that they involved ME, in MY house while he was out of town. I was going to be included, so I tried to lay into her. She felt safe because DH was there, kind of grinning the entire time. I told her next time I won't wait for DH to get home, I would lay down the punishment myself, and she knows how that goes.
~ Moon
So...here is how jeans
So...here is how jeans shopping went...
Turns out the reason she "needed" new jeans is because the others are too small. How does one with an eating disorder gain weight? They don't move, and they drink too many sugary drinks (if you've seen the movie Fed Up you get this...if you haven't seen it, it is a must see). There is a science between too much sugar and weight gain, even if you are still taking in less than 1200 calories a day.
So...since DH has no extra money, her jeans have to go on my card! Ugh! I know this will be a fight, because if I'm doing the buying, she gets what I say she gets. First, naturally, is the argument about size! Of course! She is trying to claim she is still a size 4 and her jeans shrunk. I argue that she never really was a size 4, she was stuffing herself into the smaller size, and that she is a size 8! I firmly place the 8's in her hands, and tell her to try them on! My oh my...the 8's fit! So then, she complains that she wants the lighter colored jeans. I tell her flat out no! Why? The light jeans are $10 more a pair because of rips and cute knee patches...oh hell no! DH tries to argue for her, asking what does it matter! Really? When it's your money, buy her whatever she wants! When it's mine? She gets only what she needs!
Then it gets funny. When we get home, DH asks if I gave SheSloth that other thing I bought her. I look at him confused, "What other thing?" "That shirt you got her at H&M." Oh yeah...he's funny! "Did you miss what I said in the store yesterday? I didn't buy it for HER! I bought me one! She still owes me $92 for a yearbook. I'm not 'showing mercy'!"
I wouldn't have bought her
I wouldn't have bought her jeans, either. She could wear her leggings and freeze until Santa (DH) bought her a pair for Christmas. After all of this yearbook drama, no way in hell would a skid get anything on my dime on my budget. Tell her to clean her room, there's bound to be a few gifts in there somewhere! NO REN FEST NO REN FEST NO REN FEST!!!!!
~ Moon
I personally don't think
I personally don't think those leggings are going to hold up much longer...lol...wearing really thin! Last thing I need is DH begging me to run something to the school for her to wear because they finally gave out, or her staying home because she is sick or has no pants! It was funny, however. We get to the mall, and she thought it was shopping time! She starts trying to go into other stores to look at jeans...like HotTopic and PacSun. Um...no! I say we are going straight to the ONLY store she is getting jeans in! We are not looking around...going straight to jeans, make the purchase, and leave the mall! This put her in a foul mood! I already knew exactly what she was getting. I would have gone yesterday while we were out, but DH insisted she had to try them on! I've gotten pretty good at judging her size by looking at her, but oh well. I didn't want to get them with her, because I KNEW she was suddenly going to "need" other stuff (and she did) and didn't want to even hear her ask!
I'm already almost ready to bet money that she tries to stay home tomorrow! Already claiming she doesn't feel well...laying on the couch in the TV room because it's too boring in her room without her privs.
Oh these wimpy dad's! Hot
Oh these wimpy dad's! Hot chocolate and a "talk". What a bunch of BS!
My DH ALWAYS says, "I'll talk to her." Translation: I'll try ever so gently to discuss what she did wrong, without upsetting her. I'll believe every single rotten lie that comes out of her disrespectful mouth, and I'll kiss her ass so she doesn't get mad at me. At the same time, I will show her how much control she has, and just how spineless I am, so she can continue to be the horrible type of person I have allowed her to become.
And the part about, you don't know how our talks go. More BS! Translation: she spits out all the words I want to hear, and I being an idiot, believe all the crap she's feeding me. All the while, she is looking at me, and seeing a great big giant SUCKER!
GRRRRRRRRRR Ticks me off to no end!
Yup...you hit the nail right
Yup...you hit the nail right on the head!
Just like the guard drama...he STILL hasn't called the guard coach or the band director to find out what really went on. Just taking SheSloth's word all the way. Only reason she even told him about it? Because she was in danger of being kicked off of guard, but then the captain made a mistake and send SheSloth a text out of anger. That text made the issue a wash. SheSloth was banking on DH NEVER calling the guard coach or band director, because he always says he will, and never does. So, gotta tell him enough so that he isn't shocked if SheSloth does get kicked from guard, but only what makes her look like a total victim in the matter!
SheSloth is 15...will be 16
SheSloth is 15...will be 16 in March.
How he doesn't see her true colors is beyond me! He has been there for all the same conversations I've heard...the things she has said about the other girls in guard, etc. However, he never seems to remember her saying those things...because he doesn't want to acknowledge that his dear princess is really a stuck up brat!
I love in all of these "talks" he always tells her that he wants her to get back to being her again. By that, he means the person he has set in his mind that she is...not the person she really is. She is being "her" every single day! Anytime she is being sweet and innocent...THAT is the act!
Back to being her ! She is
Back to being her !
She is "being her" ~ he just doesn't like it.
He will have his ahhh haa moment but it will be short lived n then the daddy guilt will set it.
My SD did the exact thing ~ bought her surprise concert tickets for her bday ~ but she didn't want to go. Weeks later called him n asked him to met her and bring her bday cards to her. Him .... Ummm no ~ you want them you come here ~ well she showed up in wolf mode ~ ripped apart her room she shared w my kid ~ tore that shit apart.
He quickly got a lesson in " my daughter is an asshole " starring Sadly Dad all you are is my ATM , and my friends are more important than you.
DH gets a lesson in "my
DH gets a lesson in "my daughter is an asshole" nearly daily!
Seeing as her devices are still on lockdown, I guess she figures being sweet and nice didn't work. Last night, she needed help with homework. OMG...I don't know how the kid has gotten this far, but I'll address that in the Grades thread. When DH starts trying to tell her what is wrong with her work...in a constructive way...she gets all defensive and b***hy toward DH! I'm sitting there listening to this yelling match, and I throw out there a couple of times, "You know, you should NOT be talking to your father that way!" Part of me was hoping he would catch what I said, and take her to the mat for it, but nope. He just continued to let her argue with him! UGH! I give up!
"We love you. We are your mom
"We love you. We are your mom and dad and we will always love you. But we sure do not like you very much right now."
Probably the most clear and poignant message I ever received from mom and dad Rags.
My mom used to tell me, "I do
My mom used to tell me, "I do love you! I just don't like who you are!" Yeah, that got my attention, too!