Is he finally mad enough to do something?
I've blogged a lot about my frustration with DH and is permissiveness with SS11. Things bug him or there are problematic behaviors, but he can't be bothered to do much about it because he doesn't want to have to deal with SS getting emotional or being difficult. This, in turn, just drives me nuts, though I've been working on distancing myself emotionally and making progress.
BM continues to spoil SS to within an inch of his life and expects little if anything of him. Even homework. DH stays on top of it. BM will just take SS at his word that he's done it, even though he has lied about that multiple times over the last couple of years. (Next year he starts middle school and will be in an honors class where the teacher not only keeps up with their grades and projects, but holds them accountable. At least it won't all be on DH.)
Anyway, one of our big rules is no food or drink in his room. Back when he was allowed, he would leave empty containers, used dishes, etc., and wouldn't clean up any spills. He did the same at BM's and she ended up having to call in pest control because of the bugs. We. He's allowed snacks, he just has to have them in the kitchen or living room.
After SS went back to BM's, DH went in SS's room and found: an empty jar of peanut butter, three pb-coated spoons, wrappers, boxes, food remnants. The door to the attic is in SS's room and he had put his trash can (which also had evidence) in the attic. DH had told SS to make sure his room was clean before leaving. Looks like a tornado hit it. He brought his laundry down the day before leaving, but there are still clothes all over the floor. There was also a pile of wet towels, though DH has taught him how to hang up a used towel in the bathroom and reinforced it.
Basically, SS has been standing there and nodding, then doing whatever the heck he wants.
Not surprising to me at all, he's been trained his whole life to believe there are no negative consequences and nothing is more important than what he wants.
After all this, DH had to meet BM at the post office to sign a form so SS can get a passport (her parents are taking the family out of the country this summer). According to DH, SS was rude, put-out, disdainful towards DH and BM. I've witnessed troubling behavior from SS to BM as well.
So, DH was livid. Says electronics will be confiscated when he comes back. A lock is going on the pantry. DH was going to take SS on a trip this summer, but he's now thinking no.
I'm just watching it all and hoping DH actually follows through and finally gives SS some consequences because I have seen nothing to indicate this kid is going to grow into someone I or anyone else wants to be around. But I can't say I'm very optimistic...
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Sounds like my OSD. I gave up
Sounds like my OSD. I gave up because DH didn't do a damn thing about the mess and horrifying state of her room. Well, not regularly. One time she was talking back horrifically, and he made her clean her room then and there as he had requested.
Once.
After that it's like he gave up. I ended up doing some clean sweeps due to smell and potential to draw vermin (not in my house!). Don't regret a thing. Messy is one thing, unsanitary is another.
He'd be much better off
He'd be much better off having inspections and hour or so before leaving and making SS clean up his room before he goes back. You know, real parenting. Besides what goes on at BM's house (her rules) don't apply at your house. Keep staying out if it but keep the pressure up to make sure DH keeps SS's messes from affecting you. Men are slow but most hate to be inconvenienced, so inconvenience him with picking up after his son.
Absolutely. I don't know why
Absolutely. I don't know why he doesn't check it through the week or before SS leaves -- other than not wanting to be bothered with it. Whatever. If it bothers him he needs to do something about it. Otherwise, stop griping.
And, yeah, her house, her business. Except her stuff is starting to affect our house because the leniency and spoiling make it that much more difficult for us to keep some sort of cleanliness standard. Not to mention the attitude. It's getting more clear he prefers it over there, where he gets to have and do whatever he wants. Honestly, the way DH and I have seen him treat her bothers me. I don't particularly care about her (well, beyond normal caring about another human) and her permissiveness is doing a lot to create it, but I can't help seeing a lot of red flags and I'm concerned about his future -- and potential future partners.
Yes, I hear you. I pushed it
Yes, I hear you. I pushed it onto DH too, but even HE wouldn't do it and would get irritated with me. So I instituted a "three reminders then you lose all control" policy for myself. If I'm ignored yet have to smell the room and worry about and likely be the organizer if things get really bad (i.e. pest control) then I'm darn well getting involved but no more reminders after that. You don't care? Then I'll for sure take care of it how I want to.
OSD pretty much dictated what she did/didn't do at BMs (YSD and OSD have pretty much free reign over there from what we can tell and here DH wasn't too much different but for me being here). I used to tell both her and DH that if she doesn't learn to live with other people and basic cleanliness standards no one is going to want to be her roommate as a young adult - all fell on deaf ears.
I wonder
I wonder if you can find a retired army drill sargent and hire him to babysit son 24-7 (even while you are there) until he is trained? The drill sargent gets his bed, and ss sleeps on the floor. Mmmm?
I just read this post...
I just read this post... somewhat stunned (because I could have written it) I went back and read some of your old posts.... it sounds like we're dealing with the exact same kid/DH dynamic.... only my SS is 14. I have no words of advice... happy I've met my step parent-twin.
Hi! I saw some of yours and,
Hi! I saw some of yours and, yes, there are similarities. I'm just a couple of years behind you.
In a similar situation myself
In a similar situation myself. SS15 has always been DH's golden child, and within the past few months it has all gone downhill. SS has been caught lying, not doing homework, giving DH a nonchalant "don't care" attitude, breaking rules. It's ALWAYS something. DH has resisted consequences with every fiber of his being, but every time SS is with us (every-other week) it's something else, and DH has to be on SS constantly, yelling at him for something. He's frustrated and threatening punishments and I'm curious to see how far he takes it. While SS is still overall a good kid, his crappy attitude (it's always "I can't do anything right", poor me, blah blah, which DH HATES) is driving DH to the brink. DH talks a good game, but is not a man of action when it comes to SS- not only will he not put punishments in place, he continues to allow SS to do all the extra fun things that come his way that require DH to go out of his way to drive SS places.
So, I'm also not optimistic....