The SM paradox
So I posted awhile back about planning a vacation without SD and received only supportive comments. And I'm super excited BUT there's still a little nagging guilt. We're going to Disney, which is my thing - my family's thing - and has been for a long time. Bringing her would ruin the trip for me. But then I still feel a little guilty. Not that I feel bad for her, because she gets to go places with her mom and she's kind of meh about Disney anyway. Its more just that I feel like a bad person for excitedly planning a trip that she's purposely excluded from.
Also, I'm starting therapy next week for PPD/PPA and I dont even want to bring up SD or mention her existence for fear of the therapists response. Or getting lectured about how SHE must feel like usual or any of the other typical unhelpful responses.
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I'm not sure
I'm not sure what PPF/PPA is but I'd be totally and completely honest with the therapist. You want the best outcome and they need all the info to help you. I think this topic is a perfect one to discuss with the therapist: "Why do I feel guilty about not taking SD on this vacation altho she vacations with her mom and has little interest in Disney?"
Post partum depression/post
Post partum depression/post partum anxiety. I've had anxiety and panic attacks for a long time, but it got way out of control when my youngest was about 8 months old.
You're probably right, but I feel very uncomfortable/anxious even going to therapy right now so its going to be hard. The last therapist I went to instantly referred to SD as "my daughter" even though I did not. And actually, I wasn't even married yet, it was like a month before the wedding.
My SO & I started seeing a
My SO & I started seeing a therapist that referred to BM et al (there's a circus of people & animals at her house) as his "extended family" so I feel you. He agrees to go - then that happened. I hope this one isn't like that & is able to help you.
Be honest with your therapist
Be honest with your therapist. And if she makes you feel bad by taking SD's perspective, she's a lousy therapist and you need to find a new one. The focus should be on YOU and helping you manage your challenges.
So much of our partners guilt
So much of our partners guilt rubs off on us. There is a whole vision of what should be and then there is reality. If you've just had a baby you know exactly what this is. You get all these recommendations that just aren't realistic, like what newborn baby wants to sleep alone on their back on a flat surface? Then you feel guilty for not doing everything perfect. It's the same with stepparenting, there are expectations and then there is a very different reality.
For your therapy sessions I would just focus on yourself and your husband and only mention SD if she becomes relevant to the topic. Don't lead out with the fact that she exists. Therapists will focus on the problems you tell them so if you lead with her that will be the therapists focus. Introduce SD like she is one of your in laws, a character in your life but not a main one. She'd do the same about you.
I get it. DH and I have gone
I get it. DH and I have gone gone on vacation a few times now without the boys. Up until a few weeks ago, they've both been pretty meh when it comes to travel, and OSS had some pretty big school-sponsored trips (one being out of the country). The most guilt I've felt was with our last trip because it was to the same destination that our summer trip was supposed to be. However, the summer trip was being planned with teen boys in mind. This one was planned with sleeping and sex in mind.
So long as your DH has the ability to offer a comparable experience to SD (and I'm not saying a trip to Disney, but has the ability to take time off, plan a destination and activities, and has funds to pay for it), there isn't a problem.
He won't be taking SD on
He won't be taking SD on anything comparable in the near future - I'm sure at some point but there's nothing planned. BUT this trip isn't really being paid for by him for the other kids either - my mom is letting us use her timeshare so thats free, the 2 youngest are young enough that their tickets are free, and ODS gets social security survivors benefits that will pay for his. Its really my trip for my kids and DH is coming with.
I would feel guilty too IF SO
I would feel guilty too IF SO and I were taking a vacation but not taking the skids on one the same year. In 2017 SO and I took two vacations but, also took two with skids. Now SO and I haven't taken a Vacation alone since. We had one night away for a friends birthday that's it.
Next month we are going to visit a friend of mine from Thursday-Sunday. I'm really excited. We haven't had time away from skids since they have become full time. Nope, don't feel guilty about this at all.
Why feel guity....
your kids and your DS only have you/DH as parents. SD has a whole another side of family. Bottom line..not everyone gets to go every time. Welcome to life....that is how it works.
DH and I go on trips by ouselves. WE take trips with all the kids, with some of the kids or whoever is able to come. My kids go with their Dad places and well Beaver doesn't really go anywhere...SD gets to go with us.
Its an important thing to learn in life..not everything is equal. You will not get to do things sometimes. So don't feel guilty...your teaching a life lesson.
I wouldn't feel guilty, but
I wouldn't feel guilty, but be prepared for the fall out once SD finds out you went and took this trip with out her.
My mother took me and my bios to Disneyworld years ago before we had custody of Spawn. Meth Mouth would throw that into every court document after we got custody of Spawn. How we took a family trip to Disneyworld and excluded Spawn....didn't matter that wasn't how it went down, it's what Meth Mouth and Spawn decided to believe and they clung to that and fed off that ridiculous morsel for years and years.
I dont think BM or SD will
I dont think BM or SD will say anything actually. The inlaws are gonna go nuts though but screw them.
It's ok to feel the way that
It's ok to feel the way that you do. Sure.. you have the right to do things without SD. But, the empathetic part of you still feels some pangs because it probably would have felt hurtful to you to some extent to be excluded from a trip that one of your parents was taking with your siblings. I mean.. even in a full bio family.. dad might take one kid fishing.. and mom might take another kid on a camping trip with some girlfriends... The kids left behind can feel left out.. like not getting to go to that birthday party your sibling is attending.
But, that is life.. we don't get to participate or get the treat every time.
It's ok to want do do something that might even be "selfish"... because if we don't look out for our own interests.. sometimes no one elsse will do that!
I mean.. my DH brought me a treat home last night.. apple crisp from a favorite place about 3 hours from us.. that he was near running an errand. He got one of their fantastic steak subs that he ate there... and a few other things..but the apple crisp he brought home for me... so.. I ate most of it (it was a serving.. not a whole crisp..lol). I mean.. I shared a couple of bites with him.. but I ate most of it.. selfish? well.. maybe a little.. but he could have brought more home if he really wanted to have a bigger piece right..lol? So.. a small pang of guilt that I didn't split it evenly..but not enough to not let me enjoy it.. haha.
So.. go on your trip. If anyone gets flak.. he needs to explain that this was basically a gift to your bios that was enabled by your family.. and that they aren't obligated to underwrite his daughter for every trip.. and that there will be other trips for her.. with mom.. with him etc..
Good points, thanks.
Good points, thanks.
I do feel like this is one thing I want to be selfish about, it was our family thing growing up and something I want to be able to share with just my boys sometimes. I'm torn between feeling guilty about the selfishness but also knowing that I have to live my life for myself too. Plus, being able to be selfish sometimes makes me feel better towards her in general and less resentful.
Women, in particular, tend to
Women, in particular, tend to push our own needs down and aside for others... often to our own detriment.. because it makes our internal resentment rise.. and honestly.. you will be a better and more tolerant step-parent if you get the validation that your wants matter to your husband too. So.. a little guilt is fine.. I mean.. great that you have some empathy.. but also good that you are able to put your own wishes first occasionally..
My DH was hurt that his
My DH was hurt that his custodial family (BM, SD, several half siblings) took a major trip while he was away at college. When he was telling me about it years later, I pointed out that it was a destination that his sisters would have appreciated much more than he would, so it made sense to "save" the trip til he was out of the house -- and besides, he went on trips before they were even born. He agreed it made sense, but the hurt feelings are still there: he had a lingering feeling that his SF might have secretly considered him a burden.
Ultimately, nothing's completely fair. But OP probably feels guilty because she doesn't really want SD on the trip. But sounds like SD's general demeanor makes that understandable.