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What gives a person the right to offer advice? Please all thoughts are welcome.

Ommy's picture

I thought that I would start a little bit of a debate. So it has been suggested that if you are not a bio-parent you have no right to give advice, especially if you are in your 20’s.

I am extremely offended by this completely ignorant statement.

Yes I am 23 and no I am not a “bio-parent”. But I have 28 1st cousins and every member of my family except my parents has been divorced and remarried at least once, so I have seen the step situation my ENTIRE life. I have learned a lot about parenting from watching family and friends both parent and be parented and I thought, but please forgive me as I am only 23, that humans learn from their environment and they learn from the people in their lives. However according to a recent theory out there only Bio-Parents know how to Parent.

So only step-moms/soon to be steps/adoptive parents/and bio’s what are your thoughts. What gives some one the right to give advice on parenting? Does popping out a kid do it, because I know a lot of our BM’s popped them out.

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knucklehead's picture

I hope you don't think MY theory is that only bioparents know how to parent, because that isn't true.

Ommy's picture

that is what you said, and I am not the only one that took it that way.:

"I just find it hilarious that
Submitted by knucklehead on Fri, 06/01/2012 - 2:10pm.

I just find it hilarious that a non-parent is giving parental discipline advice. Puzzled

Whatever floats your boat, though. Maybe you think you have all sorts of parenting answers and are just dying to procreate so you can find a use for all that wisdom. I dunno, I don't care.
Insults are unacceptable.
Glad someone called you out on it.

PS: Did I read that you spanked SOMEONE ELSE'S child?!? If so, that says it all.

ETA: Oh, heavens... just read your bio. You're just a baby and barely old enough to drink. Your insurance rates haven't even dropped yet! You're still in that "invincible, I know everything" age."

knucklehead's picture

I do not believe all bioparents know how to parent well.
Shit, I've been "blessed" with TWO BM's who have consistently put themselves before their children.

I do find it hilarious that non-parents give parenting advice.

This was discussed the other day in a different post, and oddly, several posters agreed with me.

Much like people on here thinking that non-stepparents shouldn't be giving stepparent advice. I've seen that many a time on here. Would YOU want advice from someone who's never been a step?

anabihibik's picture

That's fine. You are free to take or leave that advice. I just don't think ANYONE needs to be disrespectful and flippant about dismissing someone else's thoughts/ideas/feelings.

Honestly, personally, I think that the people who are non-steps on this board sometimes contribute great general parenting advice. No where on this board does it say that you have to be a sp to be here. People respond to each other from the skid point-of-view, from parenting points-of-view, and from sparenting points-of-view. We don't always have to agree with each other or from where each other is coming from, but we do need to do it respectfully. I don't agree with what you think qualifies someone to offer a response. But, I respect that you perceive that you have more experience than I do. I don't necessarily think that makes your advice better than anyone else's. I am not in a position to invalidate someone else's experiences, thoughts, or feelings based on what I think their experience is. I can choose to leave it, but I would not want to invalidate them.

alwayscivil's picture

Perhaps it's the way you deliver the advice ( if this post is any indication I can see how you would put people off, on any topic). No offense.

bi's picture

i think if you have ever been in a situation that has given you any knowledge of what is being discussed, then you have something to offer. the only time i found someone's words ridiculous was when i was being told by my uncle's gf what labor would be like. she hadn't had any kids at that point. she had no idea. but she was telling me. :?

as for parenting, sometimes i give advice based on bm experience, sometimes sm experience, sometimes based on my experiences as a kid. you are a sm. you were a child once. you have something to offer in those areas. i don't think a person who doesn't have kids is out of line to suggest that beating your kids over every little thing is wrong, etc. you don't always have to be a parent to know what needs to be done. sometimes common sense is all it takes.

anabihibik's picture

Putting the mod hat back on - keep it civil in the discussion, or the whole post is coming down.

Ommy's picture

I am trying to find out how others feel. This bio-parent only mentallity is new, and I wanted to get others thoughts on it. If you notic I am not attacking, only posting my thoughs and the post that lead to this blog. If this has changed to a bio only site I will gladly leave because that closed minded thought process sounds like my BM.

PeopleAreStrange's picture

Oh please- I am thankful for both of your services, but the military does not mean you have the mettle to succeed. That is clearly demonstrated in my exdh and my current dh who has over 15 years in would be the first to agree.

As far as the OP, I will take parenting advice if I need it from whatever the source as long as it is sound advice.

tweetybird74's picture

Ok so I am going to jump in.Simply because I am not a BM and have come across situations where people have said to me "what do you know" you haven't had any kids. Well this is true I haven't had any of my one. Well you are right, I don't know what it is like to give birth to a child, or know that bond that only a BM can have with a child she spent days or hours in pain trying to bring into the world. But I do have an SS and 5 nieces and nephews many of which I have spent more time with than my SS. So I do have some first hand knowledge, so I feel this gives me some insight and the ability to give advice. I also have friends who are childless and do not like kids or spend time with them who feel they can offer advice, while I listen to what they say I do think to myself "how the hell do you have any idea". I guess my point is everyone can give advice it is what the person listening does with it. You can listen and dissect what they say as they may have something valid in what they are talking about or you can just discard what they say. Not sure if any of this makes a lot of sense (had a few drinks after a long week)

AndSoItIs's picture

I read the original post this stemmed from. I too was incredibly offended by the comment this blog is regarding. A girl at work once made the mistake of saying to me "well you're not a real mom anyway, just a step mom". Yep, I am JUST a step mom but to me, the ability to parent has nothing to do with biology, or age for that matter. I am 25. I have my masters degree, and I am the director of nursing at a behavioral health center. Sorry that to me, age doesn't always equate to intelligence. I also parent two young children full time. I do their homework with them, give them baths, read to them, play with them, and also discipline them. I have been in my SD6s life since before she turned 2. Just bc you haven't physically delivered a child doesn't mean you can't parent one, the same as giving birth doesn't automatically give you that ability. I think there are plenty of us on here (myself included) that the BM of our skids is not a step parent, but not a real parent either. Biology is nothing if your brain isn't wired that way. You can have kids, big deal. It takes effort to parent. Age, and ability to reproduce have nothing to do with it.

smdh's picture

my mother had three kids and thinks she knows EVERYTHING about being a parent. I disagree. I adopted my child. Does that mean I'm not a real mom or that I am less able to parent him effectively? Oh wait, I actually had to be SCREENED to be a parent vs someone (say someone like the BMs we deal with) who gave birth. I'd venture a guess that SD's school considers me more capable of parenting than her actual mother. And loads of women become parents before age 23. Are they all incapable due to age? I think it is pretty narrow-minded to assume someone is incapable based on age or whether or not they've been in labor. McCrazy was well into her 4th decade before becoming a mother through birth and she's been told by professionals that her parenting style is ineffective.

bi's picture

i love my gramma very much. but she has 8 kids, and knows nothing about how to be a mother. my mother ended up exactly the same way, only with 2 kids. being a parent makes a person an expert on their own kids, not all kids. and sometimes not even their own. my mom and gramma couldn't have told you their kids favorite color or animal or what they wanted to be when they grew up. because they were emotionally absent.

how many women have male gyno's? no man will ever know what it's like to be a woman, but we trust them with our body, our health, and the lives of our unborn. yet a woman who hasn't given birth can't possibly have anything valid to say about parenting? narrow minded indeed.

twopines's picture

>>>No one really knows anyone here.<<<

More than a few people who post on this forum have met IRL.

Blue Belle's picture

The people who don't matter to YOU are one thing. Everyone has their own personal opinions, likes and dislikes. That's fine.

What's not fine is a few posters who feel the need to jump on threads and start with the RA. Drawing the lines of who they feel is in the acceptable inner circle and who is not. Trying to make identifications that actually ridiculous in light of the fact that of the 43 users and 95 guests currently on here at this very moment, what is the likelihood that any of them had sat and had coffee in the kitchen week after week?

Yep Ripley, we all judge for ourselves which posters we like and which ones we don't. That doesn't give us the right to tell people to go post on other boards instead of here, or to continuously post "warnings" that this person is/is not a BM or an SM or John Carter from Mars. I don't even think posters need to post warnings about one regular whose threads basically end up with everyone saying they don't believe her situation.

The basic question is who has a right to post here. The basic answer is whoever the owner and powers that be want to let post here.

Ommy's picture

Week dated for 10 months before I met the kids, I have been invloved with then for almost a year. They were "living" with BM when she felt like it, and after a few months knowing them,SO was in. the accident and FFIL got temp custody because BM was unstable and tried to take SO off life support. So after her was released the girls came back with us. They have been full time with me since february. This whole BS about people not knowing my story yet claiming they do is pissing me off. If there are questions PM me before you make half truth statements. Thanks.