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Is it fair to live in a home/ be with DH when you dont like minor skids?

zerostepdrama's picture

I really hope I can word this right because I know it's possibly that I will get a lot of feedback on this. The whole "not my kid, not my problem", double standards, etc.

So do you think as a parent that has a minor child living in your home at least 50% of the time that its okay to marry a spouse that doesn't like your child or have any interest in that child's life?

When DH and I started dating, I made it very clear to him that I would probably always be CP of my BS. That his dad wasn't very involved. That if we ever took our relationship to the next step (living together, marriage) that I would have certain expectations when it came to his involvement with my BS. That as a male figure in the home that he needed to be a role model to my BS and that he needed to try to foster a relationship with him.

I don't want my son growing up in a home with a SD that could give a rats ass about him. I didnt want him to grow up and think- Wow my mom chose a partner that could care less about me, how I did at school, what kind of sports I like, etc. That this is the person my mom chose to keep in HER life and have in mine- where I have no choice.

I left my Ex (BS's dad) because I didnt want my BS to think that is how a man treats his woman, etc. I wanted him to grow up in a home with a good role mode. So I def. wasn't going to chose my next partner and they lack in the same areas.

I dont want my son growing up with an adult male in the home and he is just there. Teaching my son THAT is what a husband is or a father is. So if DH basically ignored BS and only talked to him if needed, I didnt want BS to think that was normal or that is how a family is.

It was very important to me that we all got along because that is what makes for a happy family and home. I know personally I wouldnt be attracted to a partner who has 0 interest in my BS. I would not have married DH if I didnt know he cared for my BS.

I know that as we get into our relationships, kids can do stuff that cause us to have problems with them. So where we may have started off liking them, we now see their "true colors" and have changed our minds.

I think that marriage and our partners are very important. But what about minor children? What about SP who have just checked out and could care less? Is this the environment that we want our minor children to grow up in? To feel unwanted and unloved? To not understand that the SP just thinks "not my kid, not my problem"

***Just to note I know that there are some real asshole kids out there. I know a lot of the problems with kids come from BM and the bio dad's who let them run wild and dont care who they hurt. That there is usually a legit reason why we chose to not engage with our skids.

I'm just curious as to what people think about this? Especially if you as a SP have a bio and your SO has zero interest in that kid(s).

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Unfreakingreal's picture

I addressed this in another blog, which is probably what triggered your blog. I just copied and pasted my thoughts on the subject.

All moms & dads want healthy relationships for their children. A relationship where an adult, that lives in the same home as a child, is given the green flag to disregard a child as if he/she doesn't exist simply because he/she is not blood related is not healthy. Do we need to run ourselves ragged with plastered fake smiles and entertain these kids 24/7 to satisfy our spouse? NO.
Do we need to make sure that we do our part as ADULTS to teach, guide and steer these children in the right direction? YES.

There is no way a marriage will survive when the relationship between adult and child is A - non existant or B - always negative.

At least, I don't feel that is healthy, nor would I want to live in such a home. It sounds cold, fake and ugly.

zerostepdrama's picture

Ha Ha yes that is what made me think about it.

Even though we have issues at times, BS and DH get along very well. I see that DH actually wants to parent and have a relationship with BS. Thankfully we have a good thing going and we are always working on it.

On the other hand, I have zero interest in my skids. But they are older and do not live in our home and will never live in our home. I dont know if I could live with them. It would be the end of my marriage most likely.

Disneyfan's picture

THIS

zerostepdrama's picture

I agree! DH and I got engaged after 1 year and bought a house, so in some ways I felt "stuck". Then that is when the issues with his kids started. If I hadn't of bought the house and was afraid to take it on,on my own, we would have split up. BUT we did do counseling and work through things and now I am so happy we got married (2 1/2 years after we started dating). But we sure did have to work through a lot of kinks.

zerostepdrama's picture

Agreed!

StarStuff's picture

Sometimes you have to step in; I did for almost 3 years. My SD10's BM left the picture, had no contact, contributed nothing for that whole time, and we dealt with it bc BM was in a really bad place and needed to get her life back together. During that time, I fulfilled the "mom" role in SD's life. I didn't much enjoy being put in that position, but the kid needed me, so I tried to do what was best. Now that BM is back in the picture and doing well, I'm perfectly happy to let her be "Mom", and I stick to being a supportive female role model to SD.

zerostepdrama's picture

Oh yeah... if DH and I dont work out... I want to be alone! LOL! I dont want to deal with someone else's kids or deal with another adult parenting my child and going through all of that again- adjustments, etc.

Disneyfan's picture

I met DF two weeks after my son graduated from high school. I dated but not seriously. I just refused to put the needs/wants of a man ahead my son.

FTMandSM's picture

That would be horrible!!! Thankfully, SO would never go back to BM. After all the shit she put him through. Plus she is having another baby (dad is NOT involved) and I don't think SO would want to raise the new baby too.

askYOURdad's picture

I think the key to all of it is defining roles and expectations in the beginning but also keeping up your end of the bargain. DH and I had very similar views about getting married/moving in together. I have my bios full time, he has his kids 50/50. I told him that I expected more of him then he should of me. That I would always be there for his kids when they needed me, I would take care of them in the same ways I do my own (cooking dinner, giving advice when rendered, helping them make good/healthy choices etc. etc. etc.) but that there were a lot of "mom" things I couldn't do because they have one but a lot of "dad" things I expected him to do because my bios don't. With all of that said, it was probably most important that we discussed what he expected of me in order to be the father figure.

So, if I don't want him only being a disciplinarian, I have to make darn sure that I am handling discipline when it is needed the majority of the time. If I do want him to be the disciplinarian, I have to make sure that I back him up and not go into bio's room for cuddle time because the big bad step daddy sent him there. Everyone plays a role in this and I think most of the reasons for not liking the kids is actually because the kids are wild due to lack of discipline. Some cases, I do think there is something "off" about the kids, but for the most part I think open communication is the biggest tool to have in the tool box.

Personally, I am a big "family" person. I taught my kids that families can be made up of several different components and going in my DH would never be able to say that I was unclear in wanting my children to have a loving family and it was a package deal. I also have held up my end of the bargain and been the kind of mother I have always wanted them to have too. I would have major struggles if my DH completely disengaged and there would be no question if my DH solely treated them like crap.

askYOURdad's picture

"And I'm really happy there are blended families out there that work."

We try hard, and we are faced with a lot of issues, especially when drama is high, I can tell by most of my comments lately that we are in a place of peace because I feel like I have been offering advice that's worked more than "I'm with ya" statements but it always seems to ebb and flow doesn't it? It's not always rainbows and sunshine so I try to make the best of it when the storms subside.

I know there are a lot of mixed religions on here, but one thing that I think is great about Catholicism and a Catholic marriage is that if you want to get married in the church, you have to attend pre-marriage classes and they are obviously geared towards building a healthy marriage and the basis is that marriage is the priority of the family. In ours, they also did talk about step families/blended families and there was definitely great advice that we took to heart. I wish every step or second marriage came with a big fat warning label.

Disneyfan's picture

I would not have allowed my child to grow up in a home with a man didn't like him. I would not try to force someone to bond with him. If it doesn't come naturally, then it's time to part ways.

tabby yabba do's picture

My thought is this....

I agree that if a BM has raised a respectful kid who knows (and adheres) to reasonable social/familial boundaries, can be loving, responds to discipline, etc. then having an expectation that a stepparent can/should interact with them and provide a pleasant and stable living environment is fair. The stepparent doesn't have to "love" them like their own or wish to spend special one-on-one time to role-model behavior the BM values.

The BIGGEST GIFT a stepparent can give to a skid (IMHO) is to love the skid's mother and treat her with respect. And it isn't loving or respectful towards the mother if the stepparent treats a skid like crap if the skid is respectful, reasonable, loving and responsive to discipline.

This whole forum is devoted to educating people on reasonable expectations of stepparents. I have had to remind my DH being a stepparent is like going to the local big box store, randomly selecting a couple of kids, and asking me to live with them, raise them, and love them like my own. Very rarely would that happen seamlessly. After all, these are someone else's "pride and joy" - not my own.

zerostepdrama's picture

My BS8 said to me yesterday "DH is a great dad. I didnt say step dad because he acts more like a dad then a step dad."

LOL

Not sure where he gets his idea of what a step dad is or how they act, but I thought that was so cute and made my heart happy.

goincrazy.com's picture

We have been through Sd16 making up her own schedule for 3 years now. We did months of 50% one week on and one week off, Also SD21 and her 2 kids living with s for 2 years straight and barely leaving the house. I look back and wonder how I got through it because I would NEVER do it again. FDH and I moved fast in the beginning, we were inseparable and his kids were hardly around. I had no idea what I was getting into. Blind as a bat.

We are moving slow now, been engaged for a year and at this point we are a long ways off before I walk down that aisle. No wedding plans. Many, many things to work out before I say I do. We are in "pre-marital" couples therapy which really helps, no kids together either. I love him with all my heart and I haven't lost my will to keep fighting for our relationship- some days are easier then others, but I can say that if SD16 said "I'm staying here now" or SD21 and her kids needed to come back to our house FDH knows that I will find my own place to live. I will get my own apt bc I need peace in my place of home and comfort, and I refuse to be as unhappy as I was when they were there or feel that dread everyday coming home knowing what chaos and drama I was walking into.

Not saying it's fair or right, but this is what it's come to, I don't feel guilty either bc HIS kids have made me feel this way and HIS lack of parenting and demand for respect has also got us here.

NEVER AGAIN

Tuff Noogies's picture

hmmmm... i think it's fair. no "normal" family gets to eject people out of the family just cuz they dont get along. my grandfather just never bonded with his dad, had quite an abrasive relationship. didnt mean the dad had to leave just they rubbed eachother the wrong way all.the.time.

HOWEVER, a child should never be the target of continuous negativity. it's up to the adult to be kind, caring and consistent. you can care for a child living under your roof without having to actually enjoying their personality. i wouldnt ignore a child, but i may choose to ignore plenty of wrong behaviors, but if addressed directly i would respond politely.

every branch of every family has some members that dont get along and it's ok. for example i love my uncle, cant stand his wife. i lived under their roof for a few months. she and i were always cordial. doesnt mean i like her but i treated her pleasantly simply because of the fact that she is my uncle's wife. same should be applied to any skid a sparent doesnt get along with- the adult should treat them kindly and cordially just because they are your spouse's child.

but no, i dont think a spouse should get booted out just because they're not bff's w/ skid or fawning all over skid.

zerostepdrama's picture

Bad Fairy-

My post wasn't directly regarding my situation. My BS and DH are doing just fine and I am okay with where we are at, so there is no dissapointment there.

I was just asking a general question because it's something I believe in and wanted to know if I am the only one who thought like this.

In any situation I think as long as people try or have tried, that is good too.