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angelike73's picture

I am brand new here. But i need to vent and just looking for an outlet and hopefully advice. I have been married for five years and we have a 4 yr old son together. I have two daughters from my first marriage ages 16 and 14. My 16 year old is very responsible, has a prt time job, and takes AP classes in high school. Anything i need done she is my go to girl. My 14 year old struggles a bit in school but still is a good kid and usually no lip nor back talk. I have been divorced from their father for eight years before i remarried. i raised my girls to be very independent and responsible. They have had chores since they were preschoolers. Okay so I remarry and gain a stepdaughter. She was 8 at the time we started dating, my husband and her mother has been split up since she was 2. I dont know what to do with this child, she has been trouble since day 1. She was the only cjild for 8 years, which i understand has to be hard to digest and deal with. But cmon after 6 years you;d think it would get easier, Wellit hasn't. I could go on and on about the countless situations we have had to work through because of her actions. I will just name the most recent. My husband just lost a case in civil court because we were being sued by our neighbor for $2500 because she wrecked our gokart into his garage. OH, she was going to fast and lost control. She posted a FB post saying she wanted to blow up our house with only me and my oldest in it. Now for the part that makes me the most ANGRY!!! I came home from work last night to find my family watching a movie. On comes a scary part, our 4 year old jumps up and turns the TV off. Well, my SD gets up and slaps him across the face! My husband yells at her to go to her room. Our son is screaming and crying. We console him, this am he still had a bit of red mark on his face. He told me that my SD hit him 2x's yesterday in the face. My husband hadnt mentioned this part. So im assuming he was protecting her, but at the cost of our son? What do I do? I told him that if anything else happens with her I want her to go and live with her mother. She lives with us because her father never disciplines her, and lets her get away with anything, obviously. Seriously, this makes me want to pack up my babies and leave before it gets worse.
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Freedom2005's picture

I would like to say welcome, I am relatively new here myself. About a month.

I can identify with your issue though. Read some of my posts. Luckily I have not run into an issue such as yours or I would have reacted very strongly.

I personally think your SD needs counseling. If I figure correctly, she is 14 now? Has there been any trouble at school? If so, they might test her (the school) and put her in special classes for emotionally struggling kids. I would look toward professional help with this. That is abuse in the very rawest sense of the word. If she were older, you could press charges against her. I would bet your DH would take notice then. It would not be easy, but effective.

I live with a child that is hardly disciplined as well, one of 4. BF has no trouble stating what he punished my oldest for while I was at work. He usually just sends her to her room. His daughter though.... makes me mad just to think about it!

One thing I would like to suggest though, would it really help her to go to her Mom's. If she is not there now, I would assume it is for some reason. I know that SD10 is better off with us, so I am trying to work through these issues.

good luck!

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angelike73's picture

Oh, she has been in counseling. It was one of those not mentioned. She, while being placed in charge our son,(her half brother ) for a few hours while we worked, proceeded to take an EXTRA amount of decongestant meds. Then proceded to call her dad @ work and say she felt funny. ThiS led her to be hospitilized for several days for being mildly depressed. Whether she is acting out for negative or positive attention, i dont feel that while im am at work or doing my reserves obligations i should have to worry for the safety of my son. And her BM is a bit self centered she still has rules and regulations, which my SD does not want to deal with. My husband really needs to stiffen up with a punishment, rather than a "talkin to", he has been doing that for years now, and its proven no good. I am at my wits end with this. It's not right to our son either.

angelike73's picture

She usually goes over to her moms every other weekend. And unfortunately her mother is usually out partying somewhere. I dont think she likes being a parent. Well maybe when its convienent to show off or something.

angelike73's picture

I agree about being 14, middle school is tough. My 14yo daughter has been moody this year as well. But she has not even come close to acting out like SD has. She goes to therapy\counseling once a week. Ive told my husband that he needs to go in and talk with the therapist to tell them how she's been acting. He blows it off and says next time.

MeanOleMe's picture

Normal children don't even think to make threats like that. We all want to believe "she wouldn't really..." Do you think any of that parents whose kids killed them thought they would? You have to keep YOUR children safe. I personally think leaving in this situation is the only way to for sure do that, but maybe there is another idea. I think she needs more counseling, and I think you do as well. You need someone to help you figure out how to deal with this, and figure out how serious it is and the steps you need to take to protect your children.

"How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours" Wayne Dyer

AllSmiles's picture

No one listens to me on this but I say forget counseling. I'd scare the shit out of her. I'd bring over a nun from a all girls live in Catholic school. Get some brochures from a military academy. Don't pack up your babies, pack up his...

I just don't understand why one toxic person gets to hold the whole family hostage. I had a relative that was this way and life was miserable until he left.

As for the violence, I'd corner her and have a little chat about that. She has no right picking on a little bity person. She how she likes it.

"Courage is fear holding on a minute longer." General George S. Patton

Wicked.Step.Monster's picture

I would take something more along the lines of your approach than counseling... and I can assure you that if my SD14 slapped even her own sister SD10.5 DH would make sure SD14 was severely punished.... Yes... I say call her on it and put the fear of God in that girl.

Angel72's picture

I nipped this problem in the butt last year. My sd 13 slapped my son out and i told off her father right there and then. told him i would call the police, have her taken out of the home, placed in a psych ward for evaluation and If it happened a second time , than he would have to stay in a hotel to visit her and that she would never be allowed in my home ever again.
WAs it extreme? Yes. But i didn't carry him for 9 months so his sister beats the crap out of him and i'll be damned as a mother to stand by and watch my son to be physically hurt by another. If it ended my marriage then so be it. And i warned him he woudl have to come to my place for visitation and that my son would never be out of site , so long he is with company of his daughter.
Well, his daughter didn't come for a few months and then showed up, apologized to her dad and never his her brother again.
when the incident happened i did tell her off as well. i told her she was not the boss under this rough, i couldn't care less what she does at her mom's house because her mothers rules do not apply under mine. Me and my husband call the shots and that is that. then i told off my husband.

These kids have problem and they lose control. You have to be strict to set the boundaries. Unfortunately, in have custody of your sd. I did't. So my situation was very easy to control and to block her away to protect my son.
You're daughter has been in couciling, But i think you should have a family sit down and tell her directly to NEVER touch her brother like that ever again. Speak to your son, so that if she ever says anything or does anything again from this day forth, you will have to take drastic measures. Meaning, seriously tell your dh and sd to leave or arrange another living condition for her.
Our neighbour had her own daughter removed at 14 years old for sex drugs, etc...because it affected the wellbeing of the other 3 kids in the household.The police removed her and brought her to live in a home. You have to pay for this of course but for the safely of your son, if it comes down to that, then i'm sorry for your Sd but that will be the next step if i were in your shoes.
She has counciling, and if nothing is helping her then she needs more help.

Dont be afraid to tell her off. I told my sd off and then i told my husband off in the kitchen, and sd was hearing all this. She was afraid. She never hit my son ever again. She has once told him to shut up, and i told her off in the car for that too and so did her dad.

lovelovelove's picture

A little taste of her own medicine. If DH won't do it, then you do it. That is your house and YOUR CHILD. You have every right to protect your family. Grounding and "time-out" is a big, fat joke. I would slap the taste out of her mouth. Maybe she would learn a lesson.

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lovelovelove's picture

An eye for an eye...lol. I was spanked and grounded until I was 18!! My 23 year old sister was NEVER spanked or grounded. She is a lazy, dependent, no-job having, completely enabled, SPOILED and just plain screwed up. From drug rehab to alcoholism. Me, I have lived a good life of a disciplined person.

There IS a difference in the way kids are being raised now because of all of this B/S about "calling child services" if a parent spanks their kid...and oh, "time-out" is such a great alternative. Let me just tell you how "time-out" worked on my sister. ha!

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lovelovelove's picture

You are a trip, crayon! I feel so bad for you that your BF is such an enabler to that child. I don't think I could handle that. I would put my foot up both their asses and get the hell out of there! You are a better woman than I am...

At least DH puts the SD's in their places when they are a**holes. But at first he guilt-parented ALL THE TIME. I think that me coming into his life and the SD's lives is the best thing that could have happened to them. DH got his balls back and BM and the SD's realize that they can't walk all over him anymore!! hehe...GO ME!!

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Most Evil's picture

I would definitely at least threaten this kid, that you will do to her what she has done to BS or worse, if she EVER dares do anything to him again. A mother protecting her child is like a bulldog and she would have to be crazy to mess with that! Wink
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angelike73's picture

omg, thank you all to everyone who has responded. Your insight has been helpful and if not funny.

angelike73's picture

So my SD is at her moms this weekend she comes home tomorrow. I hope this week is better, and i will definetly let her know that if she even threatens to touch my son, i will call the police, and im going to tell her dad the same. Again thank you all.

startingover2010's picture

my sd has been physically abusive to my bd the last three years. i say 'abusive' because sd is 8yrs older and should know better, her intentions are to hurt badly, and its WHAT she did.

here is a breakdown of what sd, now 11, has done from the birth of my daughter till just yesterday actually:

stood over her crib with a lit lighter while baby was in it, sleeping.
threw things at the swing while bd was swinging and crying (sd's excuse: 'her crying annoys me').
kicking, tripping, pushing, yanking by the arms, pinching.

just yesterday sd tripped bd3 because bd3 tried to exit sd's room with one of sd's toys. bf and i both saw it. there have been countles times bd3 and sd11 have been playing alone (the next room) togetehr and out of nowhere bd3 cries real hard. sd11 claims she did nothing. bd3 is a tough cookie, she cries only if injured, not if you yell at her or take something away from her.

my advice....please dont leave your sd alone with any child. and please convince your dh to let sd live with bm full time. or something.

angelike73's picture

Well i do have to say,I now have my sis friend who works @ my sons preschool looking into, a follow-up. i want as many people to know as possible, because if things turn ugly, we know where to point the finger. I will do anything to protect my children, even if it means leaving our home and starting over,(already been down that road). Through what has happened in the past it shows he wants to protect SD. Oh, but she is GROUNDED lmao!! That means nothing here. I have worked my work schedule, where my sweet baby boy is only with me or DH. well cant we also add (dickhead-husband)to the list of abbreviations??