Electric SS Slide
Yesterday, bf and ss13.5 returned home early in the evening. Ss couldn't work at the nearby farm last night because school started this morning. On the surface to the undiscriminating eye, it probably looked like we made progress all being in the house together at once. There was plenty of conversation given I haven't spoken to ss since last Sunday. Ss is excited to go back to school, liked a pair of new school sneakers I'd bought for him (pre-disengagement and I didn't hand them over to him, his dad did without asking me) and the pork roast supper I'd cooked.
I felt like we made one or two phony steps forward with a huge slide backward that I wasn't supposed to notice or speak about. It's the bed thing again. There are only 1-2 ways for ss's bed to be placed so that he is not peering at and listening to every movement in the hallway. His bedroom is directly across from our bedroom and the only bathroom is just beyond and between our bedrooms. It's always been irritating to me that neither bf or ss feel any need to close our respective bedroom doors at night, but I bit my tongue about it for the most part, closing doors if I was awake after they fell asleep or first up in the morning.
Ss has been sleeping with his head at the foot of the bed for quite awhile. He claims it is the way he likes to watch TV. Being at the foot board makes it so that I have to look at him every time I come or go to our bedroom or the bathroom, and he sees and hears every movement or anyone in the hallway. To me, this indicates a total lack of respect for anyone else's space or privacy and is a play for control. Of course, neither bf or ss see it this way.
When ss came home from camp last Saturday, he "cleaned" his room and pushed the bed to the far corner so that the whole f'ing bed is visible from the hallway and he can see everything that moves near his doorway even better. I complained to bf who thought it was enough to have him shut his door at night (until they think I've forgotten or am over my strong request for privacy). I moved the bed back to where it was with a curt note to ss the next day. The door stayed shut for a few days. Last night, ss moved the bed back for his birds eye corner view and didn't bother to shut the door, which I kept shutting.
At this point, I have disengaged, so took it up with bf. "Can you please explain to me why the bed that I moved back to its original position and told ss was to remain there has moved back into the far corner again?" Bf says he doesn't know, but he plans to move the bed completely out of doorway view as soon as he gets a moment. Wasn't sure what he meant by this, but sounded good on the face. Bed doesn't move, I keep shutting the g-d bedroom door until ss is in bed for the night.
After ss went to bed, bf appears at our bedroom doorway asking if I mind if he comes in? He'd been sleeping on the couch for 3 nights. I informed him that he'd never been banished from the bedroom and he doesn't need my permission for entry. He launched into something along the line of, "Well, you always have the door shut tight at night and are busy on your computer."
Whoa dude. "Yes indeedy, bf, the door is shut all the time now because I've been begging the both of you to respect and give me my privacy for months. Both bedroom doors will be shut at night from now on. It's not that I don't like your son, but expecting me to be happy about looking at him and him watching every movement in the hallway like a hawk even when he's retired to his bedroom for the night is a bit too much." Couldn't even address the stoopid computer b.s. Bf walked away for awhile and I watched TV. He once again appears at the door asking if he could sleep in our bedroom for the night. Comes in, gets in bed and leaves the door wide open. I go to do a bit of cleanup in the kitchen, closing the bedroom door when I return.
Fast forward to after midnight, I wake up, my bedroom door is open, bf is back on the couch and the bathroom light is on. I go to bathroom, turn out the light and once again close ss's now partially opened door. Dunno if that was devoted dad "checking" on his oh-so "fragile" 200+lb behemoth, or Baby Huey having gotten up to go to the bathroom. Shortly after, bf gets off of couch and returns to our bedroom, closing the door for once.
I have a swollen gland, sore throat and possibly a slight fever. Slept fitfully last night and gave up on the idea by 5:30am. The coffee I make tastes best to me anyway. Bf gets up at 6am as if Baby Huey needs help getting ready for school. Whatever. He sits out at the kitchen table chatting w/his son, but makes no move to get his son's bedroom arranged in that 30-40 minutes until the bus arrives. Ss heads out door for the bus at 7am and I go to inquire where exactly is bf planning to place the bed and when he expects to have ss's bedroom in order? Much stuttering about needing to measure for bed and fix any gaps in a closet panel that opens to the bath/shower fixture. "Ok, bf, just know that this is an immediate priority, not to be gotten around to a month or two later after I blow another gasket."
By now, I don't care where the bed is placed, but I will not be looking at that manipulative controlling pig every time I walk down the hallway. Once the bed is moved, it is likely that unconditional permission for the hulking step monster to keep his bedroom door open ALL the time will be granted by FatherGod. And no doubt bf will think we should start leaving our door open too.
This is something disengagement can't address, IMO. Clearly ss is either testing how far he can walk all over my very clear rule about the placement of his bed and demand for privacy, or his father has told him or implied that what I want or say doesn't matter. Or both.
This is a BAD time to test me. I'm on a very very short fuse with those two.
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My SS keeps the doors open,
My SS keeps the doors open, and our doors must be open too at night. The 10yo kid is too afraid to sleep alone you know. Fragile.
The saving thing for them and me is thats its EOWeekend, so i can survive. Also, the doors are adjoining eachother, and not across, so i dont look at him. He is usually fast asleep anyway.
If I was you, i wouldnt give a shit where the bed is. I would close the bedroom doors. And keep closing them every time i come across open doors. Day or night.
I would also buy big sign that says PLEASE CLOSE THE DOORS.
Is your ss permanently living with you?
If a sign would only work. By
If a sign would only work. By now, I'd dispense with the "PLEASE." They don't care this is my preference, much less why my privacy is important to me. I daresay at this point, they're laughing at my needs and wishes behind my back and ganging up to torment me to my face.
Ss lives with us and does an erratic EOW or every third or fourth weekend w/his bm.
Well, I don't feel quite that
Well, I don't feel quite that strongly about the situation, Foxie, but there are no shortage of red flags to heed in this relationship. I've already checked to make sure that common law marriage is not recognized in my state and will NOT be taking out a marriage license with this guy anytime in the foreseeable or distant future.
In those rare moments he gets past his stubbornness and general learned ignorance, he's a pretty cool guy and I enjoy being with him. OTOH, he's a real jerk when he and Baby Huey are tag teaming me to take on their ideal of relationship un-bliss from his past marriage.
To me, this indicates a total
To me, this indicates a total lack of respect for anyone else's space or privacy and is a play for control.
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I really think this is your play for control. Just an observation and trying to see both sides. I gotta tell you…I have read your blogs and really, really think you need to relax in my opinion. You are trying WAY too much, to control this situation.
I am sure it is just a different way to live, but I could not imagine getting this upset over a door not being shut when someone is in their own room watching TV. I would not be very happy to with you either if you were freaking out THIS MUCH about this issue. Maybe it is time to let them go live on their own. Good Luck.
Would you be happy if someone
Would you be happy if someone not related to you was watching your every move, and peering in your bedroom while you are in it, doing whatever you need to do in your own privacy - like undressing? God forbid having sex with your husband...
Ok, I guess I honestly don't
Ok, I guess I honestly don't see what the big deal is about SS door not being closed. I would be having a bigger hissy about MY bedroom door and MY privacy.. but at any rate... I think that SS knows that this bugs you at this point and is just doing this to get one over on you. Don't give him the satisfaction. If you get up in the night and see that creepy SS is in his bed awake leering at you through his open door, why not just walk by and shut the dang door? If it's open when you come out of the bathroom, shut it again. I bet SS will get sick of this eventually and you will win the stalemate.. game over.
and peering in your bedroom
and peering in your bedroom while you are in it, doing whatever you need to do in your own privacy - like undressing? God forbid having sex with your husband...
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LMAO. I close MY door if I am dressing or having sex.
I always have to close the
I always have to close the bedroom door so we can have sex and have many times awakened later naked and half covered to my wide open bedroom door. One of those times I awoke to movement at the threshold of my door. It was ss stopping to stare at us on his way to the bathroom.
Ew. Knowing this - I think
Ew. Knowing this - I think you have very valid concerns. It seems your BF doesn't respect you enough to ensure your privacy is maintained. (and Baby Huey just seems like a pervert in training - CREEPER!)
I don't know if I have any new suggestions - other than maybe go completely the other direction with it. SS is trying to control you because you want the doors closed. Well then - remove his door for awhile. Let's see how long he likes having NO PRIVACY.
(I'm not suggesting you actually leer at him and try to spy on him - but he doesn't know that.)
If the boys in your house can't figure it out after that? it might be time to rethink the whole reason why they are living with you.
Good luck.
Ok, now that is weird. Who
Ok, now that is weird. Who opens it.
He who must consume a gallon
He who must consume a gallon of coffee in the morning, up to a half gallon of sweet tea or soda in the afternoon and 6-12 cans of beer per night. Gets up to pee 2-3 times a night and won't shut the door when he leaves or comes back.
So, this sounds like a DH
So, this sounds like a DH problem. He won’t shut your door after you all go to bed. First off, why wont he shut it…? Is he drunk or just an idiot? Get a spring and attach it to your door so it forces it to shut.
I thought you meant that you wanted SS to close his door every time he was in his room. Even during the day. But this still sounds like a DH issue.
They all read off of the same
They all read off of the same script, I'm CONVINCED!
I love the biodad acting as though he and his spawn are "ONE" (the BORG if you will) "Can I come into the bedroom?"
To me this smacks of biodad reverting to childhood and why not? Because usually these guilty dads have no dividing line between adult and child. They see themselves and their spawn as EQUALS.
Often SM turns into the "parent" in more ways than one.
I'm reminded of how the skids always slept with their door open AND always huddled together at night as though the Behemoth (BM) told them to "stick together" against that evil whore, Auteur!!
I might wake in the middle of the night to cast a SPELL on them!
And I distinctly remember GG (biodad) positioning Prince Hygiene's (SS at the time stb 7) bed so that he could peer out of his room from the bunk beds no matter what bunk he was in.
Then Prince Hygiene "tattled" on me to daddykins for DARING to enter his room without knocking. . . at almost 11 at night to turn off the blaring, inappropriate anime that he was zombified in front of.
Editor's note: of course ALL skids enter OUR rooms without knocking; that's PERFECTLY acceptable; after all, it's THEIR HOUSE TOO (TM)
Privacy is ALWAYS an issue when you have a coddled, enabled, entitled skid and a guilty dad along for the ride.
"Privacy is ALWAYS an issue
"Privacy is ALWAYS an issue when you have a coddled, enabled, entitled skid and a guilty dad along for the ride."
Exactly. No boundaries = no respect for the reasonable boundaries of others. Thanks Auteur.
This is NOT a teen who slips quietly back into his bedroom to enjoy a little time to himself watching tv or whatever and innocently happens to leave the door open or ajar. If his door doesn't get shut, he is tuned into the activity of the adults in the household and won't go to sleep until or after we do. Likewise, if his door isn't closed in the morning, he's up when the first adult stirs expecting to be catered to and entertained. I'm usually the first adult stirring and the epitome of evil if I haven't finished a cup of coffee or two. If his door is closed in the morning, he sleeps in so that bf and I have time to down the whole pot before dealing w/the PITA.
Have just discovered that ss's sticky door shuts fully if you pull it in hard. Nice bang. I'll give on the placement of his bed as I'm sure ss will enjoy that loud "BANG" several times a day everyday. Bf can get used to it too. I'm disgusted how often he leaves our door open in the middle of the night.
I always keep bedroom doors
I always keep bedroom doors shut at night. In case of a fire, it's the safest!
Yeah maybe you can use the
Yeah maybe you can use the safety angle. I ALWAYS had to COUCH my "thoughts" with some sort of bullshit to make the "message" go down easier.
Shame really.
Have you thought about LOCKS on your bedroom door?
Thanks for getting my point,
Thanks for getting my point, iwlass, and I'm amused by your 'Mr Big' analogy.
Ss can be quite the bully when exposed or called on for his inappropriate behaviors. He's verbally abusive to his bm and has been physically threatening to her at times (kicking holes in walls, breaking things). He was thrown off the school bus for several days at the end of the last school year for bullying a girl in order to have a look at her cell phone. His father played it off saying he'd talked to some other kids and learned that the girl deserved it. I don't believe either of them as Baby Huey is prone to throwing bully tantrums when refused access to items he envies. He was thrown out of summer school for being disrespectful to a female teacher and saying "f-you" to a female classmate. FatherGod couldn't make an excuse about or deny what the teacher had told him, but still wound up denying that his meek whittle son (cough) would ever be so disrespectful or verbally abusive to a girl.
Sick. It's only a matter of time until Baby Huey reveals the nasty 'Mr Big' to me, and his father refuses to do anything to keep his son in check. I don't have a firm exit plan, but I own the house and hold all the good cards. They have nothing and bluff (or lie) constantly. That they're working together as a tag team presently says nothing good will come of this relationship for me. When the time and circumstances are right, Warrior Woman will dispose of them.
I would start walking around
I would start walking around naked and see if that freaks out BF. We keep all the doors shut at night, because of a fire. I didn't do this when I moved in and DH had to convince me to do it. My rule is the doors have to be open until we go to bed or if we are getting dressed. Otherwise, I can't hear if the kids getting up and down. But, at night the doors are closed....
You need to dial the anger back and not change your lifestyle, it may wake up your BF that his son is creepy and this needs to stop.
"Baby Huey" probably would
"Baby Huey" probably would ENJOY the show!!
UGH!
I agree with iwlass. He is showing you "who's boss" in YOUR house (hint: he thinks it's HIM and biodad is comfortable with that. . .TOO comfortable)
I think Starfish came up with the idea of slamming the door shut when her skids simply refused to close their room door.
WHAM!!! Right in the middle of the night; scared the SHIT out of them!
With these "adult spousal status" skids and guilty daddies, you have to go M
MEDIEVAL on their keisters otherwise they don't get the message as they've never been taught or disciplined.
I'm embarrassed to say that
I'm embarrassed to say that bf often asks me why I bother to close the door to change since BH's mother never bothered. She's about twice as big and ugly as Baby Huey. Uggh.
Am all for the Starfish solution and intend to implement it on both doors beginning tonight. They'll either get with MY program or get the hell out.
And Willow, I don't care what you think about me or my feelings about this sick situation. There is NOTHING innocent about it, either on bf's part or his son's.
Also another technique I used
Also another technique I used was to make comments out of earshot of daddykins.
"I know what you're up to!"
"You may have your dad and your mom fooled but not me!"
You get the picture. Let Baby Huey know that you are still in charge no matter what daddykins tells him.
If it gets back to daddykins just play it off and say "Kids say the DARNDEST things!"
"With these "adult spousal
"With these "adult spousal status" skids and guilty daddies, you have to go MEDIEVAL on their keisters otherwise they don't get the message as they've never been taught or disciplined."
Thanks again, Auteur. Those are the words and description I couldn't find when replying to Foxie and that's why I'm hesitant just to end it all. Bf gets right with me real fast when given time out to realize his blubbery bravado and puffy (non)parent act isn't enough to sustain him or BH.
Wow! No need to get snippy.
Wow! No need to get snippy. Just trying to help. I will stay off of your blogs from now on. Good luck.