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I am a motherless child... mothering motherless children..

Tigerlily7's picture

venting.. My mother is very much alive...but very absent in my life, my brother that is still living and all our children's. She only shows face when she wants a special "kodak" moment to show all her friends on social media world.  But lately its been very painful... i've completely cut ties to her as she has me.

You longtime members here with me know my situation... I had one child naturally.. adopted a sd and am raising 2 more sd's. 

The 2 Sd's BM is still very much alive... but very absent in their lives and I am raising 2 girls on the brink of teen years, its already hitting one full force... I've already been through the "I HATE YOU!" from all my kids totally normal i get that but yesterday I was hit like a mac truck... 

the so called "bratty SD" from my previous blogs... turns out to be a wounded, empty void to never be filled little girl struggling to find her way in this world. :'( 

She has been very agressive still, trying to get her way.. i know a lot of it is her age but i picked them up from school early due to the storms coming in... she got in the car and asked could we go out for pizza, i said no way girl i've got a good hot meal waiting at home. She screamed to the top of her lungs I DONT WANT RIBS AGAIN!!! I pulled to the side of the road at sat there with her for nearly 20 minutes with the other 3 in the back seat in dead silence knowing at any moment Momma was either going to snap or put the car back on the road so they could get out of that car... 

After 20 minutes of the stare down, I said look.... I can do this all day... you either tell me what your problem with me is or we will sit here another 20 minutes I am sick of the disrespect little girl I don't deserve this either. 

She just breaks down crying and says I hate you i hate you... i was holding back tears at this point myself... i said why would you hate me for??? ive done nothing but love you and treat you the same way i do your sisters and brother. she said THATS WHY 

you take care of me, you stay onto me about brushing my teeth and combing my hair and school... and she kept crying.. I knew where she was going with it... i had a moment with her and told her i knew that pain all to well.. but I was living proof that you we got to move forward we cannot let other people control our happiness. 

fast forward to this afternoon im here waiting for the laundry to dry... drinking my coffee.. holding it all together before they get home from school. on the verge of a mental breakdown myself... 

How can women just walk away from their children? People say well its the addiction... its the mental illness... its the life they had...

I had all of that too... but I put on my big girl panties everyday and love my children... love these children i didn't birth more than my pain... 

I am so physically, mentally and emotionally exhausted... I can feel myself on the verge of anything... at any given moment Sad I notice the way i carry myself, I am quick to defend myself, quick to speak up for someone else... fight a bear for these kids... for myself... 

who knew... maybe I am on the verge of a breakthrough!?

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CastleJJ's picture

Because these Mothers were never meant to be Mothers. They care more about themselves than they do anyone else, so even having children was to selfishly fulfill their own needs. They can't see past themselves. It's horrible and it does maximum damage to everyone but the Mom. 

Aniki-Moderator's picture

Because these Mothers were never meant to be Mothers.

And yet some, like BioHo, are prolific breeders. 

Tigerlily, they're blessed to have you. Some day, they will realize that. I'm at that place with my skids. 

advice.only2's picture

Unfortunately, we live in a society that expects women to want to be mothers.  The world treats them like failures if they don’t have at least one child.  Look at women in the world who chose to be childless what are the reactions to that, the are called selfish, or unfeeling, or something must be wrong with them.  When if a man said “I don’t ever want to be a father.” He would be applauded for knowing his boundaries and for not taking on a role he doesn’t want to. 

AlmostGone834's picture

8 Billion people on the planet (and growing) but not having a kid is called "selfish". SMDH. 

Tigerlily7's picture

I think they were saying that is what "society" says or thinks... not what their opinion of it was.  <3

Rags's picture

Broadly and culturally there is a lot of pressure on women to procreate. That is a global thing.  IMHO, the wrong people are breeding.  The developed nations need to be the ones procreating to maintain the viability of the developed countries, keep the continual optimization fo the species and advancement of the overall human condition improving.  When the low development, politically corrupt areas of the world are the ones breeding like locusts we have a huge problem.  Both in being able to support and feed the nearly 8billion humans and counting, and in defending the future of the more measured and well managed nations/societies on the planet.

I know, this does not present as a particularly empathetic or caring postion.  Though my intent and concern are entirely caring.

Pardon

My DW received some of the "selfish" label thing while we lived in the Middle East.  She was in her late 30s.  The young western educated Arab lady Docs would  pressure her to have more kids when they learned that she only had one.  When she gave them her history of a near fatal first pregnancy due to pre-eclampsia/Toxemia their reply was "We have medications to help with that.". Followed by the ubiquitous "You wil be fine... Inshallah.".  Our walks through our compound would invariably raise similar comments from neighbors about us not having a gaggle of young spawn circling our ankles when the casual conversations would go to how many kids we had.  When they heard that we had only one and that he was in his mid 20s the looks and side bar non English comments and conversations would start flying followed by the "You need more children!" comments.  These were regular comments from Arabs, Asians, Iindian sub continent orgin people. Filipinos, Easter Europeans, detc, etc, etc....   

Even I got some pressure to have more kids and I was 50+ at that time.  I always answered those comments with "Inshallah" which was a hit with those pushing the topic.

I love that part of the world.  It is a part of my soul and I consider it my home though the USA is my country as well as my home.  In my 60 years of life, more than 20 of them have been spent in the ME including most of my childhood.  DW enjoyed our time there.  But there are still things that make it a challenging place to live for trailing spouse Expat women.  How is that for a questionably demeaning label?  Not my term. But one used commonly during our Expat years.

I am heartened by my niece and her friends.  These young women are all successful professionals married to good men, and they are having kids.   Exactly who we need having kids, societally speaking. IMHO.

Then, there are my DW's sibs. Exactly the people who have no business breeding.  Eternal victims with completely unfounded superiority complexes.  Their kids are worse than they are. 

Unknw

If my niece, nephews and my son  and all of their quality friends chose to not have kids. I would applaud that as well. 

classyNJ's picture

Us Stepparents are damned if we do and damned if we dont.

Much like your BM, ours is the same.  Very selfish and married a very selfish man.  She did not do anything to support her kids with sports, etc because their SF said that was HIS time and made her choose between him and the kids. She chose him with everything.  Not in the healty "I need to put marriage first" kind of way.  

She too would only show up for photo ops or other mothers would send her photos and she would post them like she was there. My photos included. 

Both SS's cuts ties with her completely and its been 2.5 years of her getting drunk and texting/leaving messages begging them to talk to her.  She now has SF call and he has been warned one more call and they are going to the police for harrassment. 

This past mothers day, they spoiled me.  I told them it was not necessary, I am not their mother.  SS22 responded:  We know, but you never made us feel like an inconvenience.  Our mother just told us that SS26 was a mistake and she only had me to try to save her marriage to dad.  

So so sad.

I too felt like I was either having a breakdown or ready to break her face at times.  In my case, it ended where I no longer have to deal with her and have 2 SS's that are turning out to be better than I thought. 

Lillywy00's picture

This past mothers day, they spoiled me.  I told them it was not necessary, I am not their mother.  SS22 responded:  We know, but you never made us feel like an inconvenience.  Our mother just told us that SS26 was a mistake and she only had me to try to save her marriage to dad. 
 

That's so sweet yet sad at the same time. Why tf would someone tell their kid this?!?

My ex/male breeder told our kid (on a night he was pissy drunk) that she was not his first child. His first child was aborted. Then he launched into his inappropriate trauma dumping to soothe his fragile ego whilst not giving a damn about how this information was making her feel. Idiot!
 

Anyways, it does highlight how some people create life yet selfishly expect others to maintain their responsibilities 

CLove's picture

Its hard not to feel bad, and empathise. She knows you love her and you show up.

Im a childless not by choice woman and it makes me sad that my skids parents both failed them.

Tigerlily7's picture

I am sorry Clove, I once knew that pain and emptiness until I become a stepmother. I think it is why I formed such a deep bond with my Stepdaughters. They came in my life first... I was told I could not have children, we had tried for nearly 10 years and I gave up... my brother passed away and I will never forget it... about a year after his passing I had went to yet another doctor, taken yet another panel of labs and tests I got really sick thinking I had the flu and kept going about my days at work I was almost 3 months pregnant with my son and would have never known unless id went down to the emergency room that day. 

but now my son is getting ready to turn 5 and I am still in shock that hes mine... that i had him.. but most of all that my love for my son is no different than my love for my daughters. 

Your skids are as blessed as mine are... I hope you know as well as I that birthing one... does not make you a mother! 

Thank you so much for always being here for me here in the forums and giving me good advice/feedback.

Lillywy00's picture

Yeah unfortunately like mentioned above some women have no problem getting pregnant and birthing a kid but actually doing the work to raise the kid for 18+ years is just not in every woman's dna. 
 

Sometimes the idea of a cute cuddly baby is what some of these women are after but the reality kicks in the cuteness wears off and not every woman can handle the day to day grind.
 

If there was less stigma to adopt or give men (who are better custodial parents) full custody at the beginning then perhaps it might save a kid from a lot of emotional hurt.
 

The half a$$ed effort from trifling bio parents sometimes hurts more. 

Rags's picture

I agree that gender should not be a deciding factor in who the CP is.  Personal performance, income, stability, impeccable background with zero CBC hits, high credit scores, and even quality of the parents own origin family should be considered. When the associated balance sheet is generated... the better rated parent is the CP. Period. Dot.  Or at least barring any mitigating information.

IMHO.  

Take emotion, take societal norms and preference out of it. Make primarily a pure analytical process.

Regardless and even if the better person is the CP, if there are no standards of behavior and standards of performance that the child(ren) is/are held to, the kid is a write off  and will never be a fully viable adult in far too many cases. 

Harry's picture

For any parent to walk away from there child.  That there life is more important than anything else. Unfortunately this gets transferred to the kids.  Bad gene.   Kids at that age are looking for something, there not bags or adults.  Just a bad place in today society.  Want to. grow up, but love being a child. 
'Good Lucy, this normal works out in a few years 

Rags's picture

Evil is not necessarily a mental illness.  I tend to just call it out directly rather than consider some excuse for why people like that are like that.

I put it on them directly.  If they claim some syndrome of the moment they can shut up about their bullshit excuse or they can prove it.  Either way, I will not accept or tolerate their behavioral bullshit.  Legitimately syndromed or not.

One of my childhood BFFs is schizophrenic.  He has done some whacky crap over the years. Starting in his early to mid 20s. While he has endangered others with his behaviors and choices upon occassion, never anything mean or disrespectful to others.  When he gets to the point where he is getting overwhelmed, he excuses himself and seeks solitude.  He is not in anyone's face or nasty in any way.

I get that any disease has unique manifestations at the individual level.  A disease is truly the individual's disease.  Thpough no disease should be tolerated as an excuse to be a detriment to anyone else's life.

IMHO of course.

Tigerlily7's picture

Its why i isolate and only vent about the Bioidiots in forums because I get so many comments from people close to me in my life like... 

"its probably the drugs" or ""she must of had a hard life"" or "I bet she has bipolar""

that is a copout/easy way out IMO... I myself have Depression, anxiety, grew up hard... could have been a raging alcoholic or murderer.. literally but I chose a better way... It all a crutch and excuse IF you allow it to be... 

and we shouldn't allow labels for some people who just in the end really the only label they need is "a shi**y person" in general. 

Rags's picture

I can never know what it feels like to be a mother, or a woman. I am am a man.  However, I do know what is to be a parent/dad.   

My parental feelings are due solely to my son.  When I realized that I wanted to make a life with my incredible bride, I knew I would have to be a father for her son.  She made me a dad.  I have never had a strong drive to be a father. Not then, not now, not ever.

Though I most definately am one.  I was all in as being SS-31's dad. I care very much about him. I love him.  

I cannot see myself feeling significantly different about a BK if I had experienced that. Though I will never know.  I could be entirely wrong about that.

No FOMO for me regarding fathering a BK of my own.

For me, what is precious is living well and living the love I have for my family.  No regrets on the what was misseds or what might have beens.  Not only no regrets, barely a thought about those things. Or no thougt at all.

Maybe that makes me less than.  I really don't know.

I do hope that everyone has the life they want and enjoy.  Those that do not and who are impacted by those who will not live their own best life, I hope the succubus or incubus entities detracting from your lives get their comeuppance.

Tigerlily7's picture

I cannot see myself feeling significantly different about a BK if I had experienced that. Though I will never know.  I could be entirely wrong about that.

Your not wrong... I actually longed to be a mother. We tried so long I gave up... it was over a decade and i got a divorce after first husbands infidelities and abuse... When I got with my CH, I knew I would have to be invested in 3 children if we were to come together, although I so desperately wanted to be a mother it was not to another womans child or children... it was almost a dealbreaker for us... I wanted "my own" but then not even a month of dating he says I think its time you meet the children and I instantly fell in love with my family... it was over after that 

i think of the first time i laid eyes on my daughters or to society my SD's... I got those same emotions, same connections that I did the moment they jerked my son out of my womb and planted him on my chest... 

It really is no different in the way you become a parent to a kid... I can tell from your posts and our conversations here... that young man was always meant to be yours, thats your son...not even blood could make the bond of you and him stronger.

<3

Rags's picture

All of the wasted time put into the why they do that is nothing but bullshit excuses. Shit is shit and shit people need to have that lable indelibly branded on their forheads for all to see for all eternity.  Metaphorically of course. I couldn't give a shit about the why of what they do.  What they do matters.

As for that kid pulling that shit, oh hell no.  I would go with....

 "Do not scream at me again you hell spawned turdlet.  We are going home, you will sit at the table, you will eat what you are served, and you will sit there until you eat every bite of it. I do not care what you want or don't want to eat.  I do not care how many hours, days, or weeks it takes for you to eat.  You will never again speak to me or anyone else that way again or you will rue the day you were born. Any questions?  Good. As for the rest of you, thank you for being polite, well behaved, and good young people. Unlike your ill behaved sister here."

Followed by loud driving while blasting angry screaming heavy metal at ear bursting levels.  Or, loudly played classical music.... all of the way home.

I understand you're hurt, I understand that this kid is struggling, however, tolerating, accomodating, or justifying this entirely unacceptable behavior is detrimental to you, to the quality kids in the picture, and even to this ill behaved kid on its way to shit spawn status.

With this one you are in a race to cut off her progression to being a shit herself, or her taking the path to become a diamond. Both are primarily the same material.  It is all carbon at some level.  Whether it takes the form of shit, or the form pf a D-Flawless diamond is up to the standards of behavior and standards of performance the kid is held to, and ultimately  to the choices the kid makes.

IMHO of course.

Nea

Rags's picture

I suppose it is easy for me to be cut and dry considering that my world is generally pretty black and white. There is little grey in experiences or my consideration of things.  

I won the parent lottery.  Both of my parents are amazing people of character and quality. They are loving parents who raised their sons with standards of behavior and standards of performance and with zero acceptance of anything less than common decency from us.  

Which I suppose is the source of my cut and dry, black and white, no grey life/world views.

I have also ultimately won the spouse lottery, at least I won the second time I played, and the kid/Skid lottery.  

Though all of this takes work, commitment, collaboration, and clearly defined boundaries to create, nurture, and advance.

I get that my experience is far from common for many if not most people.  

It sears my soul that so many are living far more challenging experiences.

Find and live your best lives. Especially the kids.  

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