Lawyer info...good and bad
Just wanted to post an update on our visit with the lawyer. It was good to get some legal advice and it tells us how to proceed.
First and foremost it's always better to settle out of court. DUH....
If BM won't settle for an agreement then.....
In a nut shell we would have to pay full CS as per the Federal Guidelines for SD15 plus extra expenses, unless we can prove undue hardship, which is very very hard to do.
Lawyer says there are two parts that the judge would look at. To prove undue hardship you must show two things:
That your circumstances would make it hard to:
pay the required amount; or
That your household’s standard of living is lower than the other parent’s household’s standard of living.
According to the lawyer we qualify for the first part hands down. Dues to DH waiving spousal support, half BM's pension, equalization payments, and taking a large loan to take over the majority of their family debt he have a real case. We cannot know if we would pass the standard of living part because it's a mathematical formula that requires BM's, SD20's, and any other person's income that lives in the house (BM's mother lives there) and compare it to ours, mine and DH. However, because I have two bios my contribution would be very little.
SD20 is a different situation and would not follow the guidelines as she is past the age of majority and have been out of school and in the work force. If DH and BM cannot come to an agreement for her then it would have to go to court for a judge to decide. It takes into consideration the difference between one child and two on the federal guideline scale...how much each parent can contribute to living expenses and schooling. It would then factor in SD20's income for the past year and her loan. SD20 would be expected to contribute half of her earnings, factor in what she still makes to go toward her living expenses and the CS amount. Her loan would go against her school expenses and the difference would be split in proportionate to income between DH and BM. The worse thing about this scenario it makes it seem like DH is out to put SD20 in a bad light...and he is not. Just wants a fair shake at things.
So in all reality it's not as bad as what we thought...but the lawyer's fees could be quite large. The only good thing is that DH's insurance through work actually give 25% off lawyer's for family issues.
He sent the mediator his proposal for CS and extras for SD15 and SD20 with DH's expenses and income. She forwarded on to BM. I expect to hear something on Monday.
It still is hard on both of us not knowing what BM will decide. I just hope it doesn't take long because it's hard on the nerves.
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I hope you left some wiggle
I hope you left some wiggle room for negotiating. Glad that things aren't as bad as you thought.
I think your DH is just
I think your DH is just scared to make his daughter responsible for herself. Why is he paying for her loans at all. At the age of 20, she is an adult and should have to pay her own bills. I know some states want to drag out child support for years on end after 18 but this girl (if I remember correctly) isn't in school anymore. Welcome to the real world SD and BM! Figure that ish out on your own or between the two of you.
We are in Canada. It's
We are in Canada. It's Canadian Family Law that divorced parents have to pay for COD post secondary.
It is still just absurd that
It is still just absurd that this 20 year old adult is a requirement for anyone to pay for her!
So how much does BM think she
So how much does BM think she should receive every month? WHAT amount has the lawyer calculated for your dh?
What does DH think he should pay?
Glad your appointment with a lawyer helped out a little.
BM THINKS she should receive
BM THINKS she should receive full federal guideline amount for BOTH kids....as if they were both under age and considered fully dependent. She will not.
The lawyer didn't actually calculate any amount because we don't have BM financial information yet. She did tell us that we do have a solid undue hardship claim, but proving it would require BM's info.
DH thinks he should pay 53% of CS for SD15, which he has been doing anyway outside of the current agreement, up until his family debt loan (from his divorce) is paid off. Once that happens he will automatically pay the full 100% for SD15. That is not counting extra like band trips, medical, tutoring, etc considered special expenses that is paid by income proportion between BM and DH. Last know income for BM puts that at 33% DH and 67% BM.
For SD20, DH proposed to pay 40% of the difference between one and two kids on the federal scale. Plus 1/2 her tuition for her two year course. He want proof of attendance and regular progress reports for her marks. All financial obligation ends when her course is done or she flunks again.
you have to proof hard
you have to proof hard ship.... that's easy lol....
DH should resign and you as well..... only joking.....
Well to me it's a bit of good news, I hope BM has a fit and takes it to court and you get a judge that tells BM and SD20 - you are leaches, you will get nothing, only SD15 will get CS and not a dime more... now get out of my court room