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dakotaray's picture

So I'll give a little background before I get started. I am a 32yr old father of a ss11 and a bd2. My SO and I are not married because she is a status native and had we gotten married our daughter would have been denied her ancestral rights because I am white. We were friends for a number of years and in an on and off relationship for years. I have been employed in the heavy oil industry since I was 16 years old, and came from a very old fashioned military family. Until I left my parents home I lived a very strict and disciplined life. If you screwed up you knew it, and if you screwed up bad, sitting alone in your room contemplating what my father was going to choose as punishment was murder. While my father did use corporal punishment like a sargeant (which he was for 28 years of his military career) it was not the first and only punishment method. My wife and I agree that corporal punishment has NO place in our home, but in the last little while I've truly been concerned about the lack of any kind of discipline.

SS11 lives 1 week with us and 1 week with BD and grandma. I just start getting results on behavior and ss goes back to dads and we start over next week. I say I because my wife does not discipline him at all, and when I do it's because I believe strongly enough to endure the fight.

SS11 can do no wrong, and it is becoming increasingly apparent to him that with a little waterworks and a sniffle or two he can induce a fight. I wind up being the "AH" (take that as awful husband or the meaning I intended, your choice) for enforcing any type of discipline. In DW's opinion no discipline works so we use none. Her constant reply is "I hated when my father made me do chores, I had no childhood. I won't do that to my kids". My BD is still too young to understand, but she actually does more household chores in a day than SS11. My 2 year old knows you don't leave your dirty clothes on the floor, SS11 either doesn't understand or doesn't care. That list could go on and on.

I have no idea how to even approach my wife any more, my SS lies to my face (even if I stand there and watch him break a rule), takes no responsiblity for the inconvieniences he causes (dirty laundry on the bathroom floor, dirty dishes laying around, the kid won't even wipe up a spill if he knocks over his water), and my wife sees this as ok, and constantly goes behind him cleaning up (with my bd in tow happily helping out as she goes). I try and explain that even at 2 bd knows the limits because they never change, what is wrong today, is wrong tomorrow, etc.

SS11 has a chore list, that I may add does not get done at all unless someone nags him to insensiblity, and DW still expects me to "pay his salary" in my eyes, because if he doesn't get his allowance I hate him because he isn't mine. It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that the child didn't do anything to earn it. I love my SS, and I love my wife and daughter, but I'm beginning to feel some very strong urges to leave. I can't sit and play a video game or I am ignoring the family, I can't go for an evening beer with my brother and the boys or I am ignoring the family.

I worked heavy oil from 16 until last february when the recession had began and after oil prices dropped drastically. I supported DW through an unworking bedrested pregnancy, crippling post partum depression that kept her from working. When I lost my job in february, she told me she'd rather see us on the street than go back to work, because I assume after being home medically for so long that she was entitled to stay home for the rest of their childhood, not because of anything we discussed about her not having an income, she stopped making it because she had to or risk damage to our daughter, and I sacrificed and worked 16 hours a day, I'd leave at 4am in the crewtruck and get home at 8-10pm this went on until I lost my job.

It seems in my home that the only time anyone wants to listen to something I have to say is when they stand to gain, when sacrifice becomes and issue it is my department. Nobody else seems to agree with my sumation that says we all have to gain and sacrifice for each other or we are not a family. I want to explain to my wife that I'm not a gravy train, but my biggest worry is that I fought so hard for my daughters status rights, that if I leave now no court in the country is going to risk awarding custody of an aboriginal child to the white parent when the aboriginal parent is not unfit.

I do not want to lose my daughter but things have to change. I was hoping someone might have some strategies I can use to try and get across that we need to be on the same page or our kids will tear us apart. Human nature will make them understand that if they can benefit from our fight ie: get their own way because we don't agree, not only will SS11 continue to exploit it, but bd2 is inevitably going to learn it. And of all things I don't want that beautiful, intelligent and caring little girl to lose that desire to help the people around her.

I am willing to sacrifice, but not if it means the loss of my identity or my daughter.

dakotaray's picture

Oh and a little background, I was not unemployed from 16yr-32yr and I have an income via EI. I chose to go back to school in the interim because I am tired of destroying my body and health working on a rig. I want a degree so I can be home with my family to watch them grow, not living in a camp somewhere talking to them on the phone, and only 1 month of our 3years together did I provide no income at all. I notice people seem to change their opinions when they find out you are not working. I chose to not go back to work because I believe that sacrifice for a couple of years will provide a more stable background for us to build our family on. I could go back to a rig tomorrow, and forget the whole deal, accept once again I would be the one sacrificing my time with the family and not the family sacrificing for me. take that for what it's worth. If you don't understand, come to alberta and work on a heavy oil service rig for a month and think that I did it for 15 years.... The wrench weighs more than a small adolescent, the hours are terrible, you work unprotected in the elements 16 hours a day, where you maybe get a break or maybe you don't. Every week we reviewed another dead righand accident report, and I don't want that to be me.

fedupstepdad's picture

Man I feel like I just wrote this post. I can relate. You have worked literally half of the time you have been on this planet on that rig and YOUR rules in YOUR house aren't followed? (And I know people will say oh your married/together it's OURS..no...if you are not married and YOU are paying the bills ITS YOURS!!!!) I mean is it so much to ask? I don't believe so. And as for your SOs, constant reply is "I hated when my father made me do chores, I had no childhood. I won't do that to my kids", sure we understand chorse weren't our first choice of what to do as kids, but it helped build a routine and established responsibility. I don't know how her father went about it, but i'm sure many kids childhoods weren't ruined because of it...it only helped them as they became adults as far as I can see. And yes corporal/capital punishment may not be the way you choose to go about reprimanding your children but setting up rules, guidelines and enforcing them is a structurally sound foundation for both parent and child. Bottom line, you both have to be on the same page with this, not necessarily the punishment part, but on this you have to. If not he will play divide and conquer like every other child has learned to do and it will truly cause problems in your relationship. If you want it to succeed you both need to come up with a plan and follow through...for the sake of both children and your relationship. Good Luck!

buttercup123's picture

You sound like a good dad, a hardworker and a smart man. RUN like the dickens. If nobody respects you and nobody wants to make any sacrifices other than you, then I'd take my kid and get the hell out of there.

She doesn't want to work? As if. Unless you are rich then too bad. That's what human beings do! She doesn't get to unilaterally decide that.

Kids that get no discipline end up being losers. It takes discipline to get up for work in the morning, to work all day, come home, do chores etc. What gets accomplished in life weithout discipline? You have been disciplined since you were 16. I'd be proud of that. What do a bunch of lazy butts have to be proud of?

I live in Alberta too and I think it's great that you are going back to school. Good for you!! I would discuss your situation with a lawyer. You are the one busting your butt while your wife sits on her ass. If I were a judge I'd side with you. Give Legal Aid a call. You have nothing to lose. Good luck.

Janey1970's picture

I had a similar upbringing to yours. My dad was ex-army and one look from him terrified the life out of me. When I met my now dh, his approach seemed so pathetic in comparison, it left me with very little respect for the way he handled his daughters. Needless to say, neither of them have turned out well. I know my own dad was too heavy handed with us, but there has to be some middle ground.

My husband and I have our own children now and I can honestly say he is a much better and firmer father to them than he was to his own two. You and your partner really need to talk. But I would say choose your arguments carefully. Don't get wound up over the slightest thing. I know dirty washing left lying around is a pain, but it's not a major thing. Decide what is worth making an issue off and stick to it, making sure your partner does too!

It's difficult when you have had such a disciplined upbringing yourself and have put a great deal of effort into life, then seeing how some others choose to live. You are not alone.