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DH minimizing my feelings again.

20YearsAsAStep-Mom's picture

Well DH is back from his trip and not one day went by before he started on the SD and my disengaging from her. His first day back we went far from home to a local park to go for a long walk. We had just started our walk and all of sudden - guess who - SD and her kids and hub are driving toward us - this is in the park. GRRR.

I haven't seen her since Feb and DH and I have been on very shaky ground since. I was very upset the morning of our walk due to some other issues with our BS and school so I was very fragile. WEll SD and gang jumped out of the vehicle and there we stood, quite awkwardly I might add for about 10 min. Then I said to DH, well, shall we carry on with our walk? He shook his head no to me and dismissed me just like that because he wanted to hang out with SD and family. He really let me down and I just don't believe anything will ever change.

Then this morning (day 2) he was threatening divorce again if I don't go back "to the way it was" and have a good relationship with SD. WTF Why is that soo important. What difference does it make if I want to spend time with her....and her kids. I do not understand. Can anyone shed a little light on this part of the equation. I am lost and alone here.

20YearsAsAStep-Mom's picture

I don't it was a set up as he never spoke with her. He got home at midnight the night before and it was my suggestion to go for the walk the next day. It was just REALLY REALLY BAD LUCK for me.

20YearsAsAStep-Mom's picture

Now he just came up to our room. I was in here on my computer and watching TV. He sat on the bed and almost started crying again. Sheesh. He said he hates the way things are and wants us all to be close again. Yah, close so him and his SD can have fun again I guess. He even went so far as to say he feels like killing himself. I don't believe him. I do believe he feels awful - awful because he engaged in RA with SD and now can't seem to undo the damage. I told him I felt exactly how he feels right now for YEARS! How would you like to feel like that for years, I said to him. He looked truly surprised and maybe he understands the pain I have been through. We'll see how this epiphany plays out now. Time is running out - tick tock.

sandye21's picture

Boy, is he playing games! When he dismissed you and went with SD that would have been the straw that broke the camel's back. He's not worth it. Are you seeing a therapist? You need someone to help you sort this out.

janeyc's picture

So make today the day you take your power back, no more can he take the piss out of you, trust me it will feel wonderful x

20YearsAsAStep-Mom's picture

Thank you Step-Aside. I am looking for support and reinforcement - not whining.

I did contact a lawyer and she would not give advice without a paid appointment - I tried several. I have an appointment set up in a couple of weeks to go over the notes I sent her regarding our situation. I will get the advice I need.

I am not going to fall for all his manipulation tactics and will call him on the divorce threat. I think he knows that and that is why he went for the "I feel like ending it all now, my life is horrible, blah blah blah".

On my way to work now, but will be back on later this evening.

Thank you to all the supportive posters - and no, I do not need to be scolded here too LOL.

Take care.

janeyc's picture

Well he's not on your side is he? Put up/shut up or I will divorce you, I would have kicked him in his family jewels, what an arsehole, where is the support that a partner is supposed to give? As for being dismissed that is not the action of someone that respects you. You deserve much better than this. As for crying that he feels suicidal, controllers will use many tricks to continue to get their own way, tears usually work don't they?

emotionaly beat up's picture

Well 20 years this is still stuck in the same old place isn't it. I remember he was going away for two weeks and you were going to seek legal advice, how did that go.

Poodle's picture

Hey I'm a family lawyer so I'll come to their defence -- no of course we don't give advice without being paid, otherwise we would be working pro bono. Please don't think a lawyer can't help you in this very emotional situation. Lawyers can cut through emotions like a knife through butter where needed. Half an hour of advice could give you a completely new view of your situation and open the door to possibilities that you never even knew were there. Make sure you choose one whom you trust and who has a good track record. It depends on what jurisdiction you are in but in family law worldwide, suits and disputes do not necessarily mean all-on battles and negotiations do not necessarily mean knuckling under. Never, ever, ever spend a lot of time thinking about plans for divorce unless you have been advised on the law. Equally, if you are near to contemplating divorce, get advice on the law early so that your plans can proceed on a fully informed basis. It would have been wise to have snuck around doing this when he was away from the scene, because you are now going to have the added stress possibly of concealing what you are doing from him. However, to return to the burden of my song, please 20Years, don't economise on paying for legal advice. It's always a grudge purchase I know, but it's so much CHEAPER THAN THE ALTERNATIVE. Wink
Trust me, I'm a lawyer }:)

20YearsAsAStep-Mom's picture

Hi Poodle, I realize that Lawyers don't give out free advice over the phone. I was fully prepared to pay for the consultation but she would like to meet in person. As well, i don't plan on asking for emotional advice - that would be ridiculous - if I want emotional advice I will seek a therapist. I do appreciate your input and will not let my guard down. The legal advice I seek is from a very reputable / successful lawfirm - I am certainly not penny pinching at a time like this. I know that there is too much at stake to meet with a less experienced / "cheap" lawyer LOL.

Things have been quieter since DH's crying-fest. I told him, I am glad you are feeling so terrible. He looked confused when I said that. I then told him THAT is how I have been feeling for at least the past 3-5 YEARS!! He seemed surprised. He had to feel as bad as he did to even begin to understand how hurt and angry I have been. Disengagement is going strong and DH has not mentioned SD since our last "talk".

Baby steps for DH and I am still meeting with the lawyer. Someone mentioned it might be hard to meet with the lawyer now that DH is back from his trip, but really it won't be difficult at all. I work in a neighboring city and I will go during or near a lunch break during the day, so he would never know and I wouldn't have to make up some story about a mystery appt.

I am feeling stronger every day and thank god I found this site. It has helped me tremendously - you will never know how much. Thank you all and hugs to all the suporters and caring ladies.

Orange County Ca's picture

"Lawyers can cut through emotions like a knife through butter where needed. Half an hour of advice could give you a completely new view of your situation and open the door to possibilities that you never even knew were there. Make sure you choose one whom you trust and who has a good track record". The Lawyer Guy said that.

And I say "so can a good family counselor" at a lesser price and quite possibly save the marriage. Go alone if he won't go. In two months of weekly counseling, with or without him, you should have a handle on what is wrong with your marriage and how to fix it assuming both of you are willing to flex.

Try it - you'll be amazed at the insight they have.

20YearsAsAStep-Mom's picture

" In two months of weekly counseling, with or without him, you should have a handle on what is wrong with your marriage and how to fix it assuming both of you are willing to flex."

Yup, if both are willing to flex is the key to a successful marriage. I have been flexing and de-selfing for 20 years now. It is DH's turn to flex and make ME HAPPY.

THANKS for the insight. Spoken like a DH IMO.

sunnyside's picture

Hugs to you, 20 years. I am only 3 years in, and I am not sure how much more I can give. I, too am rolling my eyes at Mr. Obvious..."assuming both of you are willing to flex":)

My DH refuses to go back to counseling; he said he felt like he was being beaten up.(hmm, I wonder why?) I have continued to go to counseling alone. This counselor has a Master's degree in divinity and a PhD in counseling psychology. Last week when I told him that I was losing hope and felt like I was half way out the door, I expected him to tell me I had to keep trying. Instead, he told me that biblically, it is my responsibility to get my needs met, and not just to keep giving and giving and getting nothing in return. That was very freeing. I just met with an attorney. I want to tell you that meeting with him was incredibly empowering. As Poodle said, "lawyers can cut through emotion like a knife through butter." ABSOLUTELY concur:)

2Step's picture

I too have a DH who is emotionally invested in my relationship with SD. I have asked him point blank, "Why is my relationship with SD so important to you?" No answer. I don't think he even knows himself. What I do know is that I am not interested in anything but a polite, cordial relationship. No, I don't want to be close. I don't want to be a confidante. I certainly don't want to be her mother. And last time I checked I am an adult woman who decides who I want to spend time with and who I want to open up to and be close to. DH DOES NOT DECIDE FOR ME. When he forces the issue I don't argue. I just do what I want to do. Period. No discussion. Then when he throws up in my face about what I didn't do that he wanted me to do he gets a blank stare from me. I am not about to ruin my marriage over something that is not important to me.

Please consider doing what you want and not expecting your DHs blessing. I believe you can survive this, unless there is a lot more about your situation I don't know.

20YearsAsAStep-Mom's picture

I am working on that - just ignore the DH's requests to re-build my relationship with SD. I am so sick and tired of him pushing the issue - it just makes me want to disengage even more than I already have. My life without SD has been a huge improvement. SD will have little or no ammunition now to criticize me since she never sees or speaks with me. She is a nosy busy body so it really bothers her that I have disengaged. DH told me this past week that she is "bitter" about me cutting myself off from her and her kids. HA bitter, what a laugh. I have been bitter and miserable for years - i guess it is her turn - not that I care how she feels. I just find it ironic that SD is bitter that I am protecting myself and staying away from a stressful lifestyle involving SD and her drama. I guess her being bitter is her last afront against me since there is nothing left to bash at this point. Thanks ladies. Up at the cottage enjoying a lovely peaceful time. Planning to do some gardening (flowers) and relaxing.

2Step's picture

Lovely. Do your thing. It's not a fight if you don't participate. SD is of little consequence in your marriage. Make it so.