Having major issues with girlfriends kids and baby daddy
So a little backstory before my question:
I am 29 and my girlfriend (gf)is 30. We moved in together about 6 months ago. My gf has 3 children from a previous relationship; 6yr girl, 8yr and 10yr old boys ( the boys have a different father than the girl, girls father is not in the picture). I have a BD that is 11 that lives with me. Her 3 kids are seriously lacking in the discipline department. The 6 year old isn't really my concern, she is loud, commanding and screams and cries often but I can handle her, she likes me and claims to respect me. However, her two boys are another thing alltogether. They scream, curse, look at pornography (which my daughter found and relayed to us) tell both their mother and I NO when we ask them to do things, lie repeatedly and do not care when they are caught. They stomp up and down the stairs when they are punished so loudly that neighbors call the police and complain that their is domestic abuse occurring. When my gf spanks her 10 year old he screams loudly things like "YES GIVE ME MORE. I LOVE PAIN!!!!" or "YOU WANNA HIT ME SOME MORE?? DO IT!!!!" They don't respect the rules of the house. They constantly bicker and scream at each other for the littlest things. Like, literally screaming loudly at each other. Cops have been called for it. Their bio-dad is an aweful human being, he bought them cellphones recently which both their mother and I are opposed to. I told my gf that this was a horrible idea and she said she wouldn't allow it. Well long story short she ended up caving. So NOW when these kids get punished, spanked, whatever. They run upstairs lock themselves in a bathroom and text and call their dad and tell on us. Their dad is horrible. He is in his 30's has no job, pays no child support. Despite my gf following through with her court order to allow the kids over there every other weekend. Their dad texts the boys and tells them im a faggot and other terrible names. He tells them to disrespect me and to act bad. Which the 10 year old is happy to do. lately it has been getting much worse, the Bio-dad wants to come fight me, I am worried about him breaking into my home or damaging my car. My gf and I have taken every electronic away, phones (which I have brought the hammer down and told my gf I will no longer allow in my home and if she doesn't accept that, she can leave. She fully supports my decision.) game systems, youtube. You name it. They are locked out of the wifi. The 10 year old has taken the phone being taken away very badly. Before we took it away this last time, my daughter and her daughter both saw him with it when he returned from their fathers. We insisted he turn it over to us and he told us he didnt have it, that he had left it at his dads. His dad told us it was not at his home either. A few days after that, I waited until the kids went to school and tore up the boys room and found the phone. He had been hiding it under his mattress. I found text messages in his phone from his father basically encouraging him to keep the phone hidden from his mother. (My gf and her baby daddy hate each other). Now the 10 year old has reached the point where when he gets home (mother is at work), he screams at me, says he doesn't have to listen to me, and basically laughs in my face. This morning he finally found out that his phone was missing, I woke up to him pounding on my door and telling me to give his things back that I have no right. I don't mean sadly screaming and pounding. I mean pounding like the police and screaming with anger and violence. I told him if he wasnt out the front door waiting at the bus by the time I got up and dressed (i sleep naked lol)that I would smack him. When I got up he had ran out the door. My daughter is very well behaved, she is an angel. She does do wrong often but she is polite, she says yes ma'am and yes sir. I am concerned for her being around these bad kids. I have reached a point to where I am confronting my gf about these things. She says shes sorry that her kids are so bad, she doesn't know how to control them. She cries and collapses in defeat when they treat her badly. She does spank them but like i said, they don't care. Her kids are big for their age and they are getting to the point to where if they desired, they could hurt her or push her around. I am at my wits end. I have never laid a hand on her boys, but I have no idea what else to do at this point. They don't respect us. They dare me to strike them. They don't think I will do anything. My relationship with my gf is amazing, shes a wonderful woman. She is very worried her kids and her baby daddy are going to be the end of our relationship. It eats away at her and she cries even at work sometimes because she thinks I will leave her. I told her I'm not leaving her, but that eventually things can reach a breaking point where I will have to take my daughter and leave. I don't want this to happen to my gf. We deserve each other.
Here are my concerns:
1) I am worried that nothing will be done, and these kids will get into their teen years and then they will be trying to fight ME. And due to their size it wont be an easy for me.
2) I am worried about their father damaging my property. I can't afford cameras to watch my home.
3) I am also worried about their father trying to fight me. He is also a large guy. I can hold my own, but he is much bigger than me and way out of my weight class. I fully believe that he would kick my door down and attempt something if he chooses to do so.
Please give me any advice you can. I feel like a stranger in my own home.
4. I am worried that my
4. I am worried that my girlfriend cannot parent her children correctly.
WOW I really feel for you. As
WOW I really feel for you. As to #1 I would tell her straight out that there will be consequences from here on out....and then make sure they are carried out.
When my son went through the defiant stage and started acting out, slamming the bedroom door..etc.. I took the door off of his bedroom AND the computer room. Cured that REAL quick. Also took his phone and the keyboard to the computer so he couldn't use it.
As for #2 & 3 Make sure to keep the text messages (If you can) for proof. Maybe even get a restraining order and show the police the texts, at least you will have something showing on the record for any future problems. Keep a metal baseball handy in case he breaks the door down! But he actually sounds like alot of hot air and very immature
"My daughter is very well behaved, she is an angel. She does do wrong often but she is polite, she says yes ma'am and yes sir" What is it that your DD is doing wrong and often? GF might see you are excusing her behavior and being unfair?
"she is an angel" Ya, okay,
"she is an angel"
Ya, okay, sure she is, in your eyes, what does your GF see?
I'd also be very careful disciplining children that aren't yours.
IMHO I'd move out, there is no way in the world that I would put up with this kind of crap (that will not be changing because GF doesn't parent her children) and let my angel child be around this kind of kids.
You sound either very young
You sound either very young or very immature. You're worried about fighting another adult? That's what the police and a restraining order are for. And the term "baby daddy" is popular among 20 year old girls that procreate with every man they meet. If you are really afraid, file for a protection order. That is how most adults deal with people who are attempting to intimidate them.
I don't know why you are staying with this woman. If the police come and one of her little angels runs their mouth about how you hit them, you will be hauled off in hand cuffs and CPS will take your daughter. I would not underestimate the power of a false allegation.
Obviously spanking doesn't work so why does she continue to use it? She is resorting to physical punishment because she has no clue how to effectively parent. I am no expert. Not by a long shot. But even I know that you have to try different methods of discipline until you find something that works. She sounds so frustrated but not motivated to change. That is a problem.
Quit blaming their father. The mother is the primary caretaker so that means that their crappy behavior is a result of HER household. I'm not saying that their father, or lack of a father, hasn't played a role. She should be scared of losing you because who would want to live in this three ring circus? Sometimes love isn't enough.
I think the best thing you can do, if you just have to be with this woman, is take your daughter and move out until her sons either go to juvie (they seem to be on that path) or fly the coop. Your daughter deserves better.
I would say your concerns are
I would say your concerns are valid. Move out, and continue dating your GF. Things will more than likely get worse, not better, and your dear daughter should not have to suffer. At this point it is really about your child - who cannot defend herself. What if the brats want to practice what they see in the porn, on your daughter? These kinds of things happen all the time, you MUST leave before its too late and something very serious and irreparable happens.
Im sure your GF is a lovely, amazing person. But your daughter is the priority.
Leave. Never see those boys.
Leave. Never see those boys. Date her if you want, but let her handle her own kids in her own house. She should file for CS on that cretin. Assuming he doesn't pay, it will at least keep accruing and she will have that over him. Very useful.
In the short term, of course spanking doesn't work on a 10 year old. 8 is usually too old, too. Tell the kid "what phone? you said it was at Dad's?" How can he accuse you of taking something that isn't in your house? Leave it at that.
Ultimately, get your daughter out of that house and get yourself away from boys whose next step is to make up a story and get CPS on you. Those boys will collude with each other for sure.
move out before cps comes
move out before cps comes knocking at your door.
Tell GF its YOU not her--- sorry--- see ya later bye.
IF you decide to wait a few days to a few weeks be very sure you protect yourself from pregnancy. Wouldn't THAT be something else.
**Next time you date a women with kids take your time. DONT introduce your daughter to her or her kids. Don't move in either. Observe, observe observe. ASK her tons and I mean tons of questions.
Give us an update when you can. Stay safe.\
BabyMOMMY and baby daddy is very tacky and trashy to use in general conversation much less public. JMO of course