"Absolutely no home training. Yes I did sterilize and wipe the table down."

This part should have been performed by the kid.

One of my SSs always puts his shoes on the counter or on the table. I've asked him several times to remove them and not do it again. The last time I said to him, "we don't put our shoes on the same places where we put food!"

Skids, for one, have no common sense. Two, they are usually allowed to run around like feral animals because they are precious little snowflakes of divorce. Therefore, they do nothing, held accountable for nothing and are taught next to nothing.

The other day, SS15 cooked a pizza in the oven. It wasn't hot enough so he put it back in. I went in the kitchen and smelled something funny. Took the pizza out....and it was still on the PLASTIC plate he'd been using. Sure it was on an oven tray but he didn't know that plastic couldn't go in the oven.

Little snowflakes accountable for nothing...

good for you and enforcing your rules.

i ran my house as i did when the skids were not visiting. this meant our ground rules and eating the food we prepared.

one skids had the nerve to suggest eating like they dis at bms house. um not happening.

Your post made me think of the "house manners" I have been trying to teach two semi-wild kittens that I recently took in. It has been a long time since I have had kittens, and I have forgotten just how much trouble they can get into. Since I don't want to scare them by yelling when they do something wrong, I have been using a squirt bottle. It works wonders because they are never quite sure where the water is coming from - but are beginning to understand that if they start climbing the drapes they are going to get wet.

Maybe a version of this would work on skids - only fill the water with straight vinegar.

The shoes would have been launch either across the room at the owner or out of the back door.

I opened the fridge needing ketchup..couldn't find it. Looked all over and found it in SS room (basement). WTH! It had been in there for days. The space is littered with open food and drink everywhere. I told DH it is a wonder we do not have bugs and rodents. He has to be told repeatedly to bring food and dishes back up to the kitchen. If it were me there would be a no food or drink outside of the kitchen policy although that would punish me and DH but we aren't disgusting.

Oyyyy vayyyy

fine how does this sound - instead of wiping the plates clean of old food and chicken bones or something before putting it in the scullery to be washed... you simply stag it in the fridge, with old food and all.....

yeah that fridge smelled like a trash can and SO could not figure it out, I'm not there to take it out anymore, I'm not there to trash the dirty panties and bra's in the living room, or take the shoes off the coffee table anymore.... and MIL visited SO quickly one day, she really climbed into them for the state of the house and told Aergia you area young lady this is a disgrace... that did not go down well lol

My SD10 has no home training either. I swear no one ever taught her. Her mom died four years ago and she wasn't teaching her anything but how to dress like a hoe (another story for another time). But you would think in 10 years someone else in the family would have realized SD needs to be taught life skills. She dropped crumbs and food all around her when eating and I have a younger child that doesn't make a mess at all. She sits on our couch with black feet in the summer after being outside and puts them up on the head part of the couch laying backwards and puts our couch pillows between her legs at her crotch and sits on them and cradles them. She's beyond disgusting. I've pointed these things out to DH and he gets on to her usually but it's getting to where I say stuff to her now. She sure as heck isn't going to learn by watching other children and no one else in the family will teach her basic skills.