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Solution to SS's plant-like existence

tryingjusttrying's picture

I'm trying to consider what is possible. After 19 yo SS's core group of friends left for college, SS didn't go out much. He decided rather strangely that he was just going to study and that precluded a social life. Why not both? Not sure. But at least he brooded in his room. For a few months, he started to go out with newly made friends here and there, which I was grateful for, so that I could have some time alone and with dh during the weekend. But for several weeks now, SS has had zero social plans and has been staying in, But instead of brooding in his room, he just hangs out all day in the living room on his phone. He's mostly trying to interact with his dad, or waiting to pounce on him. But in the meantime, that means that I am spending inordinate amounts of time with him with mostly no interaction. My analysis is that SS used to derive supply from his friends. But without them, now dh is his exclusive "person".

I'm aggravated. Mostly, it's a reaction to just having any other grown up just planting themselves in your living space all day long. You can't fully relax. But then there is also the history of weirdness between us, none of which were resolved. He used to shun me and avoid me as much as possible. That used to upset me, but now that feels like a dream come true versus this.

I have two things that I think would make things better for me, and wanted some feedback. 1. I leave for most of the weekend. I already go to church on Sundays (dh used to go with but has been using that time to bond with SS - even more?!!). But I'm thinking I should find an excuse to get out of the house for most of Saturday too. The problem is that I feel like I'm being forced out of my own home, and I also worry that it will strain the marriage. Dh has been working a lot of hours lately, and we don't see each other much at all during the week. Yet another concern is that in the past, SS used alone time with dad to whisper in his ear suggestions that would be very unfavorable to me. For example, he manipulates a situation to make it seem like I'm the bad guy. Rather than me having a problem with SS inviting friends over without asking, SS twists it and then all of a sudden, dh is yelling at me for having a problem with SS and his friends quietly playing a video game. SS also somehow convinces dh to make plans with him that inconvenience me, but dh doesn't realize that until after he agrees.

The second solution is to invite 21 yo BS over more. I think he would be up for coming here more for dinner. I sometimes invite BS over for dinner on the weekend, but sometimes he's busy, and other times, I want to give dh a break so that he can relax. Surprising myself, I have accepted that I have no choice in SS coming over 3 weekends a month, but I haven't pressed dh to spend more time with BS. When I brought this up this weekend, dh seemed to not want that. I couldn't believe that dh is unwilling to reciprocate. That is an eye opener. But I think it would help me a lot to accept SS presence if I could at least have my own child spend time here, so long as he's willing.

But the things I can't change: 1. SS "visitation" schedule, which is three weekends a month (four when there five weekends). 2. I can't force SS to stay in his room, get a job, go out with his friends.

ESMOD's picture

It obviously would be helpful if your SS could get a PT job because that would help him with social.. financial.. and help you... but if he is against it.. and your DH won't push.. you are stuck I guess.

But, you can have your BS over more.  If your DH pushes back.. you can remind him that HIS son is over almost every weekend.. and that you won't take any back talk from him when you want to spend a little time with your own son as well.... isn't it nice that your DH will be freed up to bond with son more?

You can also look at "leaving". more from a POV of not being forced out.. but look as it is you reaching towards something you want to do for yourself.  Is there a class or other activity that you used to enjoy but let go by the wayside due to being married? (I know I have some.. haha).  Sign up for a cooking class.. or craft class.. or exercise class.  Join some local meet up.. find out about gardening lectures at the local arboretum (or whatever might interest you.. bible study.. book club ).. 

OR.. you could host a book club or bible study at home.. make the guys feel "pushed out".. haha.

You could also see if your DH would want to gift his son something that he might find interesting.. some club or interesting class that might entice him off the couch... or a father son outing.. that they can both go to (more bonding).

 

AgedOut's picture

I'd do both. 1. join a hiking club, volunteer at a local club/church/town, book club, crafting events, free concerts in the Spring/Summer, trivia time w/ the gals pretty much anything. . Don't leave because your SS is there, leave because you have better things to do than watch him stagnante.

"What're you boys doing today DH?" "don't worry about me I've got bookclub/hiking club/church group/crafting club community volunteering to do. You boys have fun!" 

 

and by all means, invite your son over fo dinner/movie night/games/whatever floats your boat.. make your own taco night, baked potato bar night. Then let loose and enjoy him. If Pouty McSuckface is all up in his grumpy... he's DH's problem not yours. 

Rags's picture

When this crap is going on, grab DH by the hand, give him a knowing wink, and lead him to your bedroom for some spicy "sleep" adventures.  Leave SS in the LR glued to his phone.  

Nothing untoward about a couple enjoying what couples enjoy together.  Regularly!!!!!

If DH is going to make a choice to prioritize his failed family progeny over his bride and their life together, make sure that the choice he is making is as difficult as possible with clarity of what he is missing. What he is missing is you. As well as you and he together.  

Justy sayin.  K(C)lingons who do not have a life of their own should not be tolerated to detract from your life and your marriage.

So, make it cleat to SO what he missing when he does not force his college aged Klingon to get a life.

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tryingjusttrying's picture

Thanks Rags. Not sure I can pull that off. I'm not very seductive. lol.

Also, I think I would find it pretty exhausting to do that every weekend. I don't like the idea of pouring energy into all sorts of machinations to maneuver around SS. But I do have to do something different.

 

Harry's picture

DH has to stop playing Disney dadddddy and get a exit plan for SS.   SS needs a job to pay rent and a apartment to live in.  He has to start sometime. Like tomorrow 

tryingjusttrying's picture

Thanks all. I'm going to experiment with the suggestions here. I do think I should leave the house more. I have dinner parties sometimes, but that's a lot of work to do every weekend. I also plan to invite BS more.

DH doesn't complain if I make plans for us, or if we have people over, etc. So I don't feel that he is choosing time with SS more than me. However, they go out to breakfast pretty much every Saturday and every Sunday, and in addition, SS sometimes chooses what we have for dinners. I realize that this is what I'm most sore about. I don't see dh much all week and then I wake up to the only two days we have together, and it's the two of them that starts the days off together, and then SS will plant himself in the living room and do his best to get his attention as long as we're there. I learned that DH really enjoys the attention and flattery that SS has been paying him.

I'm getting that guilt feeling sneaking up on me for resenting all of the rituals they have together. I don't think dh realizes that there could be something wrong with that because it's just wholesome dad and son time.

Also, SS wanted a new phone, so I learned that they've been doing that during the weekend. I wondered why they would take so long to get back from breakfast. DH told me that it was because he was getting me something. But what he got me would have taken minutes, not hours. When I asked him about it, he got super sensitive and pissed. I'm weirded out right now. I get the feeling that they are a lot more enmeshed than I realized. Once you start lying to your wife, that's not a good sign. On the other hand, I've been more vocal about being irritated about SS's presence, so I do understand his instinct to want to keep things from me.