Step daughter ask for money for college
My step daughter left home a couple of year back to pursue nursing. But she did not complete it because of a mental breakdown. She has always been mentally unstable because of a mom who is crazy. She recently asked my husband for money for college. My husband had no money, he does even have savings. So I offered to support her with 2 conditions (1) she must graduate (2) she must pass every exam, not asking for 'A's, just pass. If any of these criteria is not met, she has to return the money. (In any case, I don't really think she will but I don't want her to think everything is free). I also asked for a breakdown of the living expenses, tuition etc and what support she can get from the government (she is studying in EU), and I will support accordingly. Note, I am not rich, I am hv 2 kids myself, I am taking my own MBA and my husband does not pay any household expenses. Also note, my stepdaughter NEVER once communicated w me since she left home. And she only reaches out to dad when she need money and support. I think my offer is generous. Do you I am mean to put criteria for supporting her education? I don't think they are unreasonable criteria. (Just to add on, she can get free education in her EU country but decided to go another EU country because she has a friend there. Knowing her mental issue, I don't want it to be a spur of the moment decision.)
Why would you help someone
Why would you help someone who is just looking for a handout? Especially when she could be govt financed but wants to be near her BFF. My vote says to take back your offer. If she wants to go to college, she goes in her home country. Don't throw the little spare money you have away on someone else's whim, just don't. Even if you set conditions, you will have no control over what she does. Spare yourself the regrets, frustration and anger.
She needs to get help for her
She needs to get help for her mental issues, first. This is just throwing away good money.
Do you have a martyr complex?
Why doesn't your husband pay
Why doesn't your husband pay any household expenses?! And if he doesn't, why doesn't HE support HIS kid?
Honestly, you should dig deep and figure out why you allow yourself to be used. You ARE being used.
Also agree with above. Without mental help first, this is throwing money away.
It is also throwing money away, given she could attend for free but is chosing not to. If SHE chooses to pay for what is free, SHE should be paying.
I have just read over your
I have just read over your other post. Stop this lunacy NOW. She has already consumed most of your husband's income one way or another and a fair chunk of yours too. If she wants a college education, she has to figure out how to finance it. Beggars can't be choosers. There are kids in the US who would give their eye teeth for what her govt is offering.
REMINDER - every cent you give her is a cent that you are taking away from your own children. Put any available money aside in a fund for your own children's education... Or into your retirement fund. Don't throw it away on a spoilt brat who's never been held accountable.
Huh???
You are wanting to give money to someone who has not spoken to you in TWO+ YEARS??? She's drained her dad??? He pays no bills???
I say this with compassion. You really need to seek out counseling and discover why you are letting yourself be so horrifically used by people who don't give a crap about you.
There are plenty of great causes to support. Your SD is not one. Best to you.
I wouldn't give her the money
I wouldn't give her the money. You have your own kids you could spend your money on; as you said, you're not rich, so saving for a rainy day is always a good idea; and this girl does not have a loving relationship with you and seems only interested in a handout. Why would you want to give her money?
No. No.
No. No.
My DH wouldn't even give his own daughter money for college. She treated him horribly when he tried to discuss her plans with him. This was after two years of her not speaking to him and before that another two years of estrangement (PAS).
He said that he's not a wallet and won't give money to someone who refuses to have a relationship with him.
Learn from that.
Please don't do this! I am
Please don't do this! I am serious. KEEP THE MONEY. I really hope you listen to the advise above. She does not care about you and this is not the right thing for you to do - Take that money and save it for YOU! If you feel you cannot, then give it to your kids. This is not going to end well and she is not going to appreciate your gift. Please keep us updated on what you end up doing. We will support you no matter what your decision is, but hopefully you start to put yourself first.
I think you need to stop looking through rose coloured glasses
See through reality and logic.
she is overseas in the EU, she had the option of public/govt funded uni assumedly with loans or minimal cost but chose the expensive option to go to another country which was not a necessity but a want.
she has 2 parents who were responsible for setting up a trust fund or savings for college if they chose to- they didn't.
you have 2 kids of your own that you are financially responsible for. What happens when you pour all this money to someone who is ungrateful and doesn't even have a relationship with you? Just treats you like an atm since she bled daddy dry??
now think to when you're bled dry and your kids are ready to go to college/university and you have no money to give. How is that fair?
sd is an adult and perfectly capable of getting a job. Mental illness or not, she needs to learn as an adult money doesn't grow on trees.
don't be guilted into paying for sd's education because it has never been your responsibility and you are taking money out of savings and retirement for someone who won't care if you end up homeless.
her dad has been bled dry, her dad isn't even contributing to any household bills. Is he even working? You really need to start looking at your finances hard because you are being taken advantage of
Why throw your money down the shit SD shithole?
smh
Take care of you and your own children. Let daddy and BM figure out how to care for their failed family spawn. Better yet, SD is an adult. Let her figure her own shit out.
You have gotten good advice
You have gotten good advice here. I think the answer is "no".. I cannot afford to do this. She is a poor gamble.. she won't repay you.. you know that.. why even go through the motions of setting ground rules she is likely to not be able to or be inclined to keep?
She isn't your responsibility.. she will have to figure her own way through this.
You are not obligated.. and if your DH is pressing you? I might look to him for not supporting his own needs.. and he can keep his hands out of your purse.
As everyone has said "don't do it"
She's in europe and she'll be fine. She is living where there are social safety nets. And if she wants free University she can move to her home country.
You, on the otherhand, have two small children who need you to support them. You also need to make sure you have an emergency fund for problems and need to ensure you are creating a retirement fund. You don't have the resources to pay for someone else's child to go to University.
If your DH, her dad, is pushing for this just say "no". If he needs anything more, then tell him that SD has two parents and you aren't one of them.
I agree with the other
I agree with the other posters. Just say no. This isn't your problem or your responsibility. This is her problem. It sounds like she is an adult? If you pay for education, she'll just keep coming to you for handouts and you will never get your money back if she flunks out of school. Also, it sounds like she has treated you poorly in the past and I doubt paying for her education will change how she feels about you.
If I were you, I would wash my hands of this situation. I wouldn't give her a dime.
I mean, I agree with everyone
I mean, I agree with everyone else. Especially when she has the option for FREE education?!? She just "doesn't want to go there"?? She has an amazing option right at her fingertips- why would you pay, when you have 2 kids of your own and you don't have a relationship with her?
This honestly doesn't make sense. I would never pay for a kid to go to college when they have a FREE option. Also, SS16 will be going, but he's going to pay himself, with student loans. There are other options that don't involve you paying and losing your money.
It's a hard no from me.
Kopfschmerz, OP, please come
Kopfschmerz, OP, please come back and talk to us.
The hit and runs are very
The hit and runs are very frustrating....
Agreed. Perhaps she just got
Agreed. Perhaps she just got the validation she needed?
Sorry folks, not hit and run
Sorry folks, not hit and run and thanks for the advice. Honestly, I do not know why I just keep giving. I feel sorry that her life got destroyed by a mentally unstable mom? Maybe I felt bad I married her dad and she never got daddy's love? Maybe I am hoping I can help change the life of a young person? Whatever the reason, I don't know why I would support her and I also cannot answer the question why I should. Her mom never held a proper job, so don't expect anything fr her. She is only trouble. Her dad is struggling with his business, barely surviving. I have always been the breadwinner. I am just tired taking care of everyone but myself. Maybe someone needs to knock some sense into me. I just got the acceptance letter today and a 14k Euro tag to it.
Her dad, your husband, should
Her dad, your husband, should not have the option to fiddle around with an unsuccessful business ad nauseum while you struggle to support everyone (except your own self).
HE NEEDS A JOB. Furthermore, he need to be the one to pay for his daughter's excess.
Stop this nonsense right now!
Stop this nonsense right now! This person has a perfect solution to her problem - she takes advantage of a fully paid education and she accepts that is above and beyond what the vast majority of kids can get! There's a country where tuition is free and where she can get a grant for her other expenses! There are kids who DREAM of that! She doesn't get to throw that away because she wants to be with her bff. She can get back with her once she has her diploma. Now, go and talk to a therapist about why you want to throw your disposable income away on a person who isn't even your responsibility. Seriously... How DARE this brat throw away such an opportunity for a stupid whim?!
Please wake up, OP.
Bottom line
If she can't handle studying without her BFF, she'll never survive in the world of nursing. Save your money
She dropped out of nursing.
She dropped out of nursing. She cannot do it any more. She is going for arts degree now. She wasn't really into the nursing thing. It was her last option. But after she went back to her mom, since all her aunts were nurses, they just convinced her that's the best option because it pays a stipend even during school.
Agree with everyone else
Just no. It's her problem to figure out. I wouldn't give her anything towards her tuition.
As some point the issues we inherit from our parents become ours
to solve. She very well may have inherited a boatload of problems from both her mentally ill mother and her under performing father. Let her solve them. Those problems are not your problem, nor is she. Quit serving yourself up on the guilt alter of SParental martyrdom and let her live her own life consequences and solve her own life problems.
The same should apply to your DH. Time to tell them both to grow up and be adults. Quit funding and actively facilitating their failing adult lives.
Adult equity life partners build a life and future together. I do not see your situations as sustainable when your mate is a long term failure in being your equity life partner who expects you to fund his failed family adult progeny and his retirement.
Good luck and take care of you.... and your kids. Do not continue to invest in abject multigenerational failure.
Something to think about
She still plans on nursing? I am not sure how countries in Europe handle the 'mental breakdown" she had and nursing. In the states, the board of nurses don't take this lightly. They ask every 2 years about mental health, new diagnosis or hospitalizations. She is an adult now she needs to figure how to pay for things herself or go in her home country for free.
You need to meditate on the
You need to meditate on the image of you having to tell your bios that you are broke and can't do for them because SD got all your effort, time and money. Picture that in full details. The sad looks, feel the anger coming at you from them, the overwhelmingly failure in the pit of your chest, the realization that you F'd this up and there is no fixing it. As your bios grow, get married have kids of their own, there's a distance with them that can't be overcome. All because you put faith in SD. And she's no where to be found. You're broke, old and alone.
Now meditate on telling SD no, cutting off DH and giving your all to your bios. What does that look like ? Feel like?
Does that make things clearer to you?
You need to stop the enabling
You need to stop the enabling. It is not your job to support her. She's an adult; she needs to be treated like one and learn to support herself. You are not helping her at all paying for her education especially when a free one is available. This truly is not your problem but you are making it yours. You really think she's going to be thankful? Treat you better. Hell no; she's just going to ask for more.
When SD went to college, I made DH support her. I didn't put 1 penny into her education.
Please Seek Help For Yourself!
You seem way too OK being a floor mat for your DH and dipshit SD... Loving you does not deplete your DH love for his Daughter... Mentally Ill parents don't ruin every child's life... We are never too old to find happiness and purpose and your SD has even started - except with excuses. Sorry that your situation sounds so miserable - just want you to not bear the ENTIRE weight of your family world. Lots of jobs out there DH can use to supplement his lack of income - even temporarily. Get a backbone and some attitude. Sorry to sound so harsh - just want better for you!
Time to preserve your resources for your own financial security
and to provide opportunity for your own children. Ms. Nursing School Drop Out is not longer worthy of nor is she earning the behefit of your resources.