How mush CS is too much?
In the state of Alabama: My fiance and his ex make the same amount of money (between $45000-$50000 / yr). He pays the insurance $550 / month. There is NO child care involved(although she claims there is). He pays $1400 per month for 1 CHILD!!! The state of Alabama needs to seriously do something about these mothers that lie and exaggerate about everything. I am also a BM with 1 son. I know what it costs to raise a child. This bitch thinks that she should not have to pay for anything!! I can understand taking care of your children, but paying all of ex's bills too is pure BS.
We also have a child together. We are paying more for the one child than most pay for 4. I believe that the mothers (and fathers) that take advantage of the courts and their ex's when going after CS, should have to justify and prove anything above the normal child support guidelines. The family court system is completely messed up!!
Yes I agree with you, the
Yes I agree with you, the system is messed up! My dh is paying 1,450.00 for two, while I only get 340.00 for one. oh well 10 more years to go. How old are you step kids?
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Yikes that is a lot of
Yikes that is a lot of money!
If your DH agreed to pay for all expenses then it would have been calculated into the CS and written in the divorce decree. That could be the reason why its so high. Men do stupid things when they're going through stressful situations like this. They agree to crazy things just to get away from BM and the drama she's causing. Another reason could be that BM wasn't making that much at the time of the divorce therefore CS was calculated with differing incomes. Either way, it's time to go in for a modification.
Good luck
That IS a mofification! He
That IS a mofification! He was paying $2000. All that for ONE child! Completely ridiculous! The worst part is, she expects him to pay for 1/2 of extra-curriculars! She had on her "monthly expenses affidavit for child support justification" that she pays $100 per month for xtra-curr. All he plays is baseball that costs $55.00 per year. I told him that if he gives her another dime, he is crazy!! She showed that as part of her means for needing $1400 per month. She also had on there that she pays $200 per month in child care. He does not go to daycare, she and her sister are teachers and her sister takes him to and from school and she has him during the summer! This woman is a controlling, lying b^%$#!!
Have BM show receipts of
Have BM show receipts of childcare..lol That should stop that BS. As for extracurriculer if they're included in child support payments she shouldn't be asking for reimbursment. BUT, that is a rediculous amount for 1 sport. I would still ask for all receipts pertain to extra curriculars which would be $200 a month since she's required to pay half. I doubt she'll be able to pull that off. Gather the evidence of BM not being to show proof of purchases and childcare and take to court...again--sorry. Your situation just blows. I can't believe the court mandated that much child support. That's insane.
Friday when my fiance picked
Friday when my fiance picked up his son, the ex hands him a copy of a page out of a notebook. On this, are "expenses" that she wants us to reimburse us for. The total is $151. Things like over the counter meds, a yearbook, class pictures(which she will not give us any), ball practice pants, balls. I hit the roof! I told my fiance that she would NOT get another DIME from us. I did the calculations over the weekend using the AL CS guidelines, we should only be paying $455.64, we are paying more than 3 times that and she still wants MORE! I have NEVER in all my life wanted to kick someones a** so much! When he told her yesterday when he dropped him off that he was not going to pay that, she got pissed and told him that she was going to tell their son that his daddy did not want to take care of him. My fiance almost lost his mind! She is the one that doesn't want to take care of him, expecting my fiance and I to foot the entire bill is bull! This bitch is CRAZY!!!
BM's extorting your DH. I
BM's extorting your DH. I know it will be tough but he needs to say no to her and stick with it. This will probably instigate BM talking smack about dad to SS so he needs to follow up a conversation with SS saying your mom is mistaken about some things. And by the way, BM will likely pay for all those things anyway. If she doesn't the child will survive a season w/out a yearbook and a baseball. It's more important to end the emotional blackmail she's pulling.
Writing a list of things for SS vs receipts doesn't count. She needs to show proof of payment. DH pays half of whatever isn't included in CS. The astronomical amount sounds like it covers everything.
Combined my Wife and my SS's
Combined my Wife and my SS's BioDad earn ~$110,000 per year. My wife makes ~$10,000 more than BioDad. My Wife has sole physical and legal custody. Yet BioDad pays only $380/mo in CS for my SS. He does have three younger out-of-wedlock children by two more Moms. SpermGrandMa raises all three of the younger kids in her home.
BioDad pays nothing beyond CS. In fact he does not even pay his own CS for my SS. SpermGrandMa and SpermGrandPa pay it for him. BioDad is also responsible for half of any medical expenses that are not covered by insurance (which I provide). So far he owes us ~$5000.00 that he has not reibursed us for over the past 15yrs. I have already contacted the Judge who heard and ruled on my SS's Custody/Visitation/Support case. He indicated that BioDad is liable for penalties and interest on the bills he has refused to reimburse us for but that we will have to persue that action in civil/small claims court.
What the worthless piece of shit does not realize is that when my SS turns 18 (in 6 short months) I am going to sue his worthless ass for what he owes us and I will probably throw in a claim for every penny I have spent on my Skid for the past 15 yrs. I know I won't get any more than priciple, penalties and interest on the $5000.00 but I would love to see the look on his face when he opens the court document and sees that I am suing him for $130,000.00 He is too stupid to realize that my winning the total amount is less than likely and will probably cost himself several hundred in legal fees when he calls his attorney.
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I appreciate the comments.
I appreciate the comments. I have to say that I am SOOOOOO proud of my fiance. He stood up to her. He went to drop SS off that Sunday and she wanted to know where her money was. He said "what money". She got pissed. Of course, she said that she was going to tell SS that daddy doesn't want to take care of him! My fiance hit the roof! He told her that she was a greedy, selfish, bitch. What she doesn't realize is, we pay for EVERYTHING! I had a friend that works for an attorney do the figures, we actually OVERPAY her by $1180 per month. If this doesn't cover EVERYTHING, I have no clue what else that psycho wants. She doesn't pay for a damn thing for SS. She thinks that my fiance should pay her house note, part of the utilities and child support! I seriously think this woman needs to seek professional help!
get a modification downward.
get a modification downward. why the hell is the support that high?
Because she claims that she
Because she claims that she is paying out over $4400 per month on bills, home, extra curriculars, clothes, food, school, child care etc. She is a lying bitch. She doesn't even pay child care! She claims that she pays $100 per month on extra curriculars, $200 on child care, and the list goes on and on and on. He just went to court a couple of months ago and I do believe that his lawyer was ignorant. CS was reduced by 600 a month, but my fiance had to pick-up the health/dental insurance which costs 550 per month. He did not save a dime!
get a better lawyer. wait 6
get a better lawyer. wait 6 months. make her show every receipt for everything she says she spends.
if the calculation is what it is...how could he possibly be comign out higher than the calculation by that much?
Who the hell knows. His
Who the hell knows. His attorney said that it is because of the childs "excessive" needs. What the hell does that mean?? I never went with him to see the attorney. This bitch had our bank records subpoenaed, all of his work records subpoenaed, etc. My father in law seems to think that they used my income as well. I do not know, I was not there.
well if your info is being
well if your info is being recorded...you should be at the atty.
my suggestion...get a new atty. have the new atty get the whole file. get the new atty to explain to you why.
then modify and subpoena all her stuff too:)
I told my fiance that we
I told my fiance that we need to take her ass back to court. It is one thing to support YOUR CHILD, it is a totally different matter when you are suuporting THE EX. I have been trying to research the laws in the state of Alabama as far as if my income can be used or not. If it can, then the court needs to take into consideration that I have a son and my fiance and I have a son together. I want to know HOW she can use my income, that is not my child. I have 2 children that I am supporting! The government is so screwed up when it comes to CS. They allow these women to manipulate the system and completely SCREW their ex's. I agree with you Stepma, it is like CS is a punishment that they have to endure until the child turns 18 (or graduated from HS).
Request an interrogatories
Request an interrogatories report on her. That's how she got all DH's financial information. Don't reimburse her for anything covered by CS. In your case that includes extracurriculars. Unless its for medical/dental not covered by insurance you don't owe her jack! And even then she pays her half.
Thanks for the input. She
Thanks for the input. She THINKS that we owe her for ALL medical not covered by insurance, including over the counter meds like Tylenol, Mucinex and cough syrup! This woman is a psycho!!! I told my fiance that there was no way in hell we were paying for that considereing it was on a piece of notebook paper that said: 3 boxes Mucinex $9 each = $27.00, Delsym $9, Total = $36.00. I have no idea if that is for him, her or the damn neighbors! I am not paying for that. If she cannot afford to keep Tylenol and other OTC's that SS may need, she seriously needs to learn how to budget money!!!
yeah...BM can only ask for
yeah...BM can only ask for reimbursment of OTC meds with a doctor's note otherwise they're not considered true medical/dental costs.
But, it's only $18 bucks (that's half). If DH riembursed her that much it probably won't break the bank.
and she still needs to show
and she still needs to show reciepts.
That's the problem though,
That's the problem though, she will not give us receipts. We paid for 1/2 of ball registration (not required, but we did), she still refuses to give us a schedule. She wants to be reimbursed for EVERYTHING she buys for him. She doesn't think she should pay for anything. She doesn't want half, she wants 100% of everything she gives us. We are already paying almost 7 times what SHE SHOULD BE GETTING!!! It makes me sick to my stomach to think that we have to give that bitch another dime for anything. She already gets WAYYYYY more than she should. We have 2 other kids that need things too.
I don't know why you're
I don't know why you're giving her anything without receipts. I don't know why you're paying anything at all since its all been included in the child support calculation. My only guess is so she won't PAS the kid to think you guys are the terrible ones. However, it is implied that BM is already has the earmarks of turning the kid against his dad-hince withholding the sport schedule from you guys.
BM is emotionally blackmailing and extording you guys. Seek an attorney. By the sounds of it she could be ordered to backpay and possibly lose percentage of custody due to her antics.
I keep telling my fiance
I keep telling my fiance that we should not give her A DIME more than CS. I do not know if he feels guilty for not paying for the extra things or what his deal is with that. I have tried over and over again to explain to him that he is doing way more than he should have to already. With what he already gives her, he basically pays for everything and then some! I can understand wanting to be a part of his ball. But she makes it a point to exclude him from it. He told her that he would TAKE SS to get his bat, cleats and glove. So what does she do, went to Walmart and bought everything (supposedly) and gave us an amount that she paid wanting us to pay her back. She took that away from him. The father / son time of picking out his cleats and trying on gloves, getting a bat. She is a cold hearted bitch. He did actually refuse to reimburse her for it.