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D15 says "I don't Feel like Saying Hello"

amber3902's picture

My two daughters and I currently live with my SO. We've been living together for about three months now.

My SO usually isn't up when my girls and I get up for work and school because he usually works late. This morning, however, he was downstairs in the living room working on his laptop.

I hear my D15 walk downstairs. I don't hear her say anything to SO, no good morning, hello, nothing.

So when she came upstairs I said "D15, you went downstairs and didn't even say good morning to SO." She said "sorry, but I was busy." I said, "it doesn't take any time to just say good morning."
You have to understand, where I live and the way I was raised, it is very rude not to speak when you first see someone.

So D8 and I come downstairs. We say good morning to SO, and we're making sure she has everything she needs in her bookbag. D15 walks downstairs and walks right by SO on the couch. Again, she says nothing to him.

So finally I say to D15 "D15, did you speak?" So then she says good morning to SO.

So I go to her and tell her she had two opportunities to say good morning and I still had to tell her to say good morning to SO. She said "Sorry, I just didn't feel like saying it". I said "That's no excuse. And you have no problem saying good morning to me and your sister."

She does this sometimes. Says she doesn't "feel like saying hello". I don't understand it. It's like someone saying they're too tired to breathe. WTF? It doesn't take any energy to open your mouth and say hello, and it's so rude!!

And it's not like SO and her don't get along. Other times she'll talk to him about school and stuff, so I just don't get it.

So I took her cell phone away, and I'm considering keeping it for a few days.

My SO said he's going to give his truck to her to drive when she turns 16, but I don't know if I should let him do this. I don't feel it's right for him to give her his truck if she can't even extend the common courtesy of acknowledging his presence. I mean, her friend spent the night Friday and he went and bought pizza for all of us.

I could understand if she was breaking curfew or some normal teenage rebellious behavior, but this "I don't feel like saying hello" crap I just can not understand!

Is she just being a bratty teenager or just being lazy? And any ideas on what can I do to correct this?

Willow2010's picture

So I go to her and tell her she had two opportunities to say good morning
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So did your SO. Why did he not say Good Morning? Maybe she is following his lead.

amber3902's picture

Yeah, I could see why someone would ask that about SO. I think he was concentrating on his work. Also, his back would have been to her while he was sitting on the couch, so he may not have even seen her walk by.

Also, how can I explain this? He isn't the type to force things. I've seen where he'll say hello to her but she won't say anything back.

SteelRose's picture

Ss16 has never in the 4.5 yrs I have lived with DH and him been the first to say anything to me. He only responds in grunts to me if I first say hello or anything else. DH tried at first to get us to be nice to each other but there is just no camaraderie there. We live in a home together and he tip toes around me and I just go on with life.

Don't make her be nice, let it grow on it's own or else both your daughter and SO will start feeling resentment towards you, and you're not the bad guy. Just let their relationship grow or not grow. We cannot force our kids to like our SO. If my DH had kept his nose out of ss and my relationship I think we would have battled it out and then come to a mutual agreement of some kind. DH would always say to me "just be nice" and that made me more resentful. Then he started telling ss to "be respectful" and so ss is respectful in his way by basically ignoring me.

amber3902's picture

Yeah, I'm not trying to make her be nice to him, I'm just expecting her to extend him the same courtesy I would expect her to give any adult in her life.

She doesn't have to like SO, but she should respect him.

Willow2010's picture

I've seen where he'll say hello to her but she won't say anything back
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Now that would upset me. That IS disrespectful for sure.

I always thought the whole "who says hello first" argument was petty. But this above is un called for to say the least.

amber3902's picture

So I was right to view the "I don't feel like it" as just an excuse?

I mean, has anyone ever heard that before?

I notice she sure feels like texting her friends, though.

amber3902's picture

>>I don't FEEL like going to work every day, but I do.

I don't FEEL like cleaning the house, but I do.

I don't FEEL like making sure you have food to eat and clothes to wear, but I do.

I don't FEEL like taking away your phone, but as your parent, I do what I have to do to make sure you don't turn out to be a rude brat.<<

Love it!

And you're right, it's such a LAME excuse!

amber3902's picture

You know it never occurred to me that it was disrespectful to me as well. Good point.

Love your signature line BTW!

bellladonna's picture

Bravo Amber! I wish my DH would stand up for me the way you stood up for your DH. SS6 rarely greets me and DH doesn't say anything. Children should be respectful to the adults in their lives. You are doing the right thing by teaching her how to respect her SF.

Anne Boleyn's picture

My YSD did this to me for a while and sometimes still does. I would say hello and she would just stare at me. I finally flipped out one evening and refused to come out to eat dinner with FDH and the kids because I didn't want to share a meal with someone who treated me that way. FDH was mad at first then finally understood why I was upset. He talked to her and explained that it really hurts people's feelings when they greet you and you don't respond. She said the same thing "I just don't feel like saying hello". He made it clear that it was a very mean thing to do to someone who is so good to her. It's gotten better. You just need to make it clear to her that it's totally unacceptable for her to treat the man you love that way.

twoviewpoints's picture

Amber, yes, it's an excuse. DD is not yet comfortable AND she is a moody teen. It was rude not to speak. But expecting people to behave kind and respectful to each other is a two-way street. He ignored her too. Yes, he may not have 'seen' her, but if you excuse him then why not the daughter?

Teens are self centered creatures and what to wear to school and who is who in first hour is way more exciting to occupy one's mind at that age bracket than remembering to use manners at home. Don't let her get away with it. Your living with SO is new. It's new for him and it's new for the girls. "I didn't feel like saying hello". Pfft. Well guess what kiddo, there's plenty of times your mother doesn't feel like doing this or that either but she does.

I'd probably be more concerned if the non-speaking thing was a daily occurrence or she very openly was rude when he directly spoke to her and she blew him off. As long as she treated him with politeness and 95% of the time remembered he's not just a blob in the room, I'd be ok with it. I'd strike it up to her being a pretty normal teen. But if she deliberately is being a little turd, it's a totally different ballgame. You can't make them 'like' each other , but if the kid is living in his home, sitting at his dinner table and having her friends over to his house, deliberate snubbing and rudeness should not be tolerated.

So DD lost her cell for today (some a couple days). It won't hurt her a bit. It might open her eyes to the fact she now lives in a home with an additional person and must remember her manners and everything on social requirements Mom's taught her all her life doesn't go out the window just because 'she doesn't feel like it'. With that said, you should also remind SO he is now living with 3 additional people in his home and that if he expects to be treated with respect he too needs to show a bit of respect. Perhaps instead of speaking immediately, while one's pre-occupied and the other is 'busy' ( :? ) instead it should be expected when they come face to face or before she runs out the door they make a point of wishing each other a good day. He's got to show a willingness to want a civil respectful relationship too. It is a two-way street. I think otherwise you're going to find one person (the adult SO) waiting for DD to speak while DD is defending herself with 'he didn't speak to me either'. And she's correct in the immature teen-age head of hers. In that case, which one is wrong and which one is right?

Let them find their way. Yes, you'll have to keep an eye on the situation from afar, but as SO isn't usually up in the morning when you 3 are, it isn't a normal routine for either one of them. Personally I think you need to watch this from all directions and in every setting. When he walks in the house in the evening, does he make a point of speaking to everybody? Does she respond? If one or the other asks the other a question or tries for a conversation at the dinner table, is it a to-way both trying and showing respect?

I wouldn't judge either one of them based on a one morning atypical morning. It's the situation as a whole I think you need to focus on and see that both teen and SO need to work on getting use to new people living together. They'll either build a relationship or they won't, but you being in the middle means you won't allow either one of them to mistreat and be disrespectful. You can't put all the expectations on DD and give SO a free pass. It actually sounds like he likes the girls and is willing to be kind and considerate (the car at 16 bit)...give them some time. They may actually find their way on their own. But no, you won't tolerate rudeness and disrespect on either of their parts. They may never 'like' each other, the important thing will be that they co-exist in a civil acceptable manner. She can't treat him like dog poo and he can't sit back and expect a teen-ager to make every first move. Teens are scary creatures. They're moody, forgetful and self centered. Seriously, teens forget their manners with their own parents sometimes. They aren't perfect. It would be when the 5% of the obnoxious teen turns into more than 5% I'd say there is a problem. If it's just the occasional 5%, I'd say you're doing a decent job with the kid and she's still struggling with being a teen and her new living situation but 'working' at it.

amber3902's picture

Thanks for your post. I read every word of it and you raise some very good points.

Yes, it is still new for everyone and I will have to give everyone time to get used to each other. I think the fact that D15 doesn't speak bothers me more than SO, he never complains about D15's behavior or if she didn't say hello to him.

I can say 95% of the time she treats him with respect and engages in conversations with him. SO works from home most of the time, so he's home before we are, but he'll say hello to everyone and she'll respond. Sometimes D15 will ask him questions about politics and they'll have some good discussions.

I guess it must be part of being a moody teen because sometimes she's this way with me.

I will say though, that taking her cell phone away DOES hurt her. That's why I did it because I know that's her kryptonite. Wink

>>If it's just the occasional 5%, I'd say you're doing a decent job with the kid and she's still struggling with being a teen and her new living situation but 'working' at it.<< Yeah, I'd say it's the occasional 5% of the time, so I'll step back and give them time to adjust and grow.

lil_lady's picture

^^this...

my mom married my step dad when I was 7.... and I had the exact same issues your daughter does. I am ver rwspectful and my mother didnt like it either because I was taught to respect people. That being said behind closed doors my step dad was very disrespectful to me. I would keep a very close eye on this and definitely talk with her when she makes those disrespectful decisions but nothing more. She is going to turn very resentful. I also brought up that my mom married when I was 7... I had these issues when I was 15. Point bwing we were uncomfortable with eachother for a long time! I still am to be honest. She may genuinely not have known what to do with it. I wouldnt say good morning if I knew someone was concentrating either. That to me is disrespectful because when I am concenteating I want to be left alone!

lil_lady's picture

^^this...

my mom married my step dad when I was 7.... and I had the exact same issues your daughter does. I am ver rwspectful and my mother didnt like it either because I was taught to respect people. That being said behind closed doors my step dad was very disrespectful to me. I would keep a very close eye on this and definitely talk with her when she makes those disrespectful decisions but nothing more. She is going to turn very resentful. I also brought up that my mom married when I was 7... I had these issues when I was 15. Point bwing we were uncomfortable with eachother for a long time! I still am to be honest. She may genuinely not have known what to do with it. I wouldnt say good morning if I knew someone was concentrating either. That to me is disrespectful because when I am concenteating I want to be left alone!