step daughter bullying my daughter in school - I'd like to cut ALL ties, but we can't
it's a loooooong story... background would be... girls are the same age and same school and (obviously) same grade. We live in pretty small town. I began SD's dad summer before girls started 7th grade. Dad had primary custody of his three kids from previous marriage. Mom was only allowed supervised visits. Mom fled the state when he filed for divorce when children were very young but sent them back one by one... because she 'couldn't handle them'
As kids got older (SD is the youngest her brothers are now 17 and 19... she's 15) the younger two kids wanted relationship with mother. Court papers said supervised visits only, but they worked out an agreement of two younger kids would go stay with her 1st and 3rd weekend of the month and a month in the summer. Alternating holidays. The kids began to enjoy that... why? Mom let them do ANYTHING they wanted. ANYTHING.
By the time I showed up the daughter was sexually active and into drugs... yep... she was 12. Good stuff. Dad had nary a clue as he thought she was super innocent girl. My daughter warned me about some of the girl's friends and I did some mom poking around. (Took all of 5 mins) and let dad know things were waaaaaaaaaaay bad. That's always fun... start dating a guy and break the news his daughter is an effing mess. ANYWAY... as you can imagine, his daughter wasn't so keen on the fact that I shined a light on her sex, drugs and everything else. At all. She tried to suck up to me. But quickly realized I wouldn't fall for a single trick. She didn't get by with a thing with me and it made her mad. My daughter knows full and well I have a random nanny cam type thing on my computer. I told her. This was back when she started on Facebook etc. The agreement was that if she allowed me to see what was going on via spot checks etc then I would have no reason NOT to trust her. And probably wouldn't keep spot checking. Worked FINE with my kid.
Well, the then-to-be-step-daughter was CLUELESS and would sneak off to use my computer when visiting. And I'd show dad her chat comments about what an effing b--ch I was. And how she couldn't wait to score. And how she needed someone to please pick her up she was getting beat by her father. (She did that one when we had a house full of 20 kids for a party... imagine our surprise when a cop shows up. She was asleep on the floor by then with a bunch of other kids... 20 eyewitnesses said... no, no beating going on here. GOOD STUFF.) ANYWAY...
SD hates my daughter. Hates me. And truthfully after all the cr@p she's pulled the feeling is mutual. She cuts herself, screams and cries, does drugs, was EXPELLED for selling drugs in 8th grade, sexually active -- turning trick at the house at one pt, has filed false reports of abuse (DHR has cleared dad each time)... she bullied my daughter in 7th grade trying to egg her into hitting her. My daughter bawled but held her ground, and didn't hit her. She was whisked off by friends to the office where the incident of verbal bullying was reported. School tried to play it off as family drama. Now, I did not move in with my husband until we got married this past Fall. We got engaged only after some pretty intense PRE marriage counseling. We tried to mesh the kids together at first...
But then we backed off. His kids are simply too big of a mess. They wanted to move in with their mother that willingly abandoned them. Their mother that never paid child support. That never paid insurance. That doesn't have a CLUE how to parent.
They wanted to move over there so they could do whatever they wanted. She got so out of control that when she was expelled dad had no choice. He let her go live with mom, along with her brother... older brother was gone with military by then. Mom had moved to our town by then as well. (Unluckily)
When we got married we tried to have the weekends together with all 5 kids. (I have 3 kids 15, 12 and 9) It was tense. But I was trying to do it for my husband. My daughter was no longer allowed to have friends over when SD was over. All her friends parents point blank told me... we really like your husband, he's awesome... but his daughter? No. We cannot allow our kids around her.
Yeh. She's THAT bad.
So my daughter was not a happy girl. But she's a good kid and put on a smiley face for us. But she also started trying to avoid spending our weekends with us. I don't blame her, truthfully.
Last month SD declared, 3rd or 4th time now?, that she was gay and her mom wouldn't allow sleepovers anymore. Okay, you want the truth? I have gay friends. Quite a few. And I don't really give a DAMN about anyone's sexual orientation. I don't. You want to get off that way, go for it. Quit trying to shock me with the news. For the love of God my very best friend is gay. Get over yourself. But THIS girl is sooooo busy sleeping around with GUYS that I'm having a problem believing the "I'm gay" bit. Add in her brother has now decided he's transgender. He's gets off on Furry Porn (Dear God, don't Google if you don't know it... your retinas will BURN) and watching My Little Pony. He's a junior in High School. The SD actually YELLED at her dad once when he walked over to the TV and turned off My Little Pony. "You don't like him because he's GAY!" Actually, we don't like him because he's CREEPY but that's besides the fact.
So, last month SD declares she's studying witchcraft and is interested in being a Satanist (or whatever the right word is...) And then says she wants a dagger.
Something in me just SNAPPED. I told her she was never brining up Satanism (whatever) CR@P in my house again. EVER. I'm sick and tired of her drama. Why the heck does the girl that cuts herself (and was recently in a lock down psych ward for a week) need with a dagger. I literally couldn't sleep that night for fear she was going to hurt my younger kids. Literally.
I told husband next day no more combined weekend visits. Period. I was done with her psycho actions. He agreed 100%. Very supportive. We are wary of him being alone with her since she has filed false reports of abuse in past, so we decided she could only visit the both of us. We see the counselor that sees the girl. And she agreed with us as well. Said it was probably better.
Well, SD often decides at the last second she isn't going to visit on her appointed weekends. We made sure she understood new schedule. She did. Mom did as well. She decided not to visit last weekend. Her weekend. Okay, fine.
Mom sends my husband a text that we will be having SD and SS this coming weekend. We explained that we were always happy to work with her schedule, but this was too short of a notice and we were not able to change our plans. Mom responded that she didn't care what we thought we WOULD have kids. Period.
So husband very calmly set her straight. No. It's not their weekend. Period. We have plans. And the new custody papers only say he has visitation right every other weekend. She didn't visit last weekend and that was HER choice. So, sorry.
See, the thing is... we are getting our very first family puppy this weekend. And we wanted a nice calm start to our weekend. No drama. No screaming. And frankly I don't EVER want those psycho kids around my kids EVER again if possible.
So, the bullying part... SD sought out my daughter at school. She demanded to know what our plans were and why she couldn't be included. God bless my innocent trusting child... she told her: "I have a long church retreat, but we are going to get the puppy on Friday and visit with my grandparents." SD began cussing and screaming at my daughter about what an effing b--ch I was, how I ruined her life, how her daddy didn't love her, how I sucked, how she was effing coming over to her own effing house (remember she voluntarily moved in with mom and we spent a long time explaining this through therapy...she was giving up her room etc... she could VISIT but there was no way each kid got their own room and I wasn't forcing my daughter to share a room with emo suicide demon druggie girl) And blah blah blah. One of my daughter's friends turned around and calmly told SD to shut the hell up and maybe grow up some as well... and took my then sobbing daughter away.
Dad called SD and confronted her about episode. She acted like it was nothing. A sane discussion with her 'sister' in the hallway. He told her no way... which of course went to: you believe HER over your own daughter?!!! We let her know we'd be contacting the school. And she literally shocked into silence. She eventually asked: You'd do that to family?
Oh HELL no. If this was any other kid I would have already been AT the school.
This child NEVER sees consequences for behavior. Run away from home? We spent hours looking for her... made it clear on Facebook that whoever was hiding her would face the police. We got a phone call shortly after that. She demanded mommy come get her... and she did. And that was that. Nothing ever mentioned again. Expelled from school for drugs? Wait, it wasn't technically being expelled. See... we alerted school when we found messages on Facebook that led us to believe she was dealing. Dad turned out bags and begged her not to be stupid. She cried and screamed he always believed the worst about her when she was a good girl... she was met at the school by police and principal. Her locker was clean... why? She had moved into another locker with an underclassman.... dog hit on in right away. Poor pathetic boy WAS expelled. SD? Mom immediately withdrew her from school so she couldn't be expelled. No consequences for her actions. Nice, right?
So I called school about this bully incident. I explained VERY clearly that this was technically a family problem but that we had little to no contact with SD these days and that I wasn't going to tolerate my daughter being bullied like this. They agreed. They pulled my daughter for a statement. Then pulled the slutty SD for a statement. Let her know that family things should be resolved between family. If she had ANY further incidents with my daughter as school they would look at suspension or expulsion. No questions asked. They would not tolerate it.
The VP called me and told me SD was shaking bad when he called her in. And she knew exactly what it was about. Hey, improvement. Cops told us when she was busted for drugs last Feb she just shrugged her shoulders and said: So?
This kid has been in counseling for aged. Dad has tried so VERY hard. I'm done with her. I'd rather not see her. I really would prefer she get out of our life. BUT I know he loves her. And wants her to have a better life.
He DID tell her that until she saw fit to offer me a sincere apology that she was no longer welcome over to our home for visits.
I know eventually how this will go. By early April she'll call and ask what they are doing for the weekend. Acting like NOTHING happened. And he's a big softie... he'll be so stunned and happy she called he'll just make plans.
No. No. and NO.
I have asked/demanded they do some group counseling withOUT mother around. Just dad, SD and counselor. He agreed that they needed it. I want each month's schedule given to them in writing... emailed and printed. If they choose to not visit, they forfiet that visit unless they arrange differently. I will not allow her around my kids. Period. Not for the forseeable future.
Husband is fully supportive of this. Has stood by me. Protects me from her. (I truly fear she'll claim I abused her next and refuse to have her in the house without him to protect myself.) I was surprised to have my daughter inform me the VP told my daughter to always have a buddy with her on campus. He didn't want her alone at any point with SD. I gave him a BRIEF overview of SD. Very brief. He told my daughter he was slightly concerned SD may physically harm her.
I am so upset. I really am. I've tried to be calm about this. But I want to just smack that loser kid around. She has is so good. A dad that loves her and has stood by her through all the hell she's put him through. A dad that supported her all these years when mother did NOTHING and now she just says 'eff you!' and walks away?
Oh mom tried for child support. And SD came to dad saying: it's a fair offer you need to take it.
:jawdrop:
First, why is a 15 year old being consulted about child support amounts and secondly... oh HELL NO.
Mom owed over $80k in back child support and insurance that dad paid all those years. So dad lawyered up and the courts let her know she was nuts. She could get credit for each month she had kids but that was it. She'll never see a dime of support from him. Of course he takes them shopping and buys them gifts etc... but groceries and all that? Mom's gig now.
I really dislike these kids SOOOOO much. I wish it was just me, hubby and my kids. We do so well. Have fun etc. His kids just exhaust us. I used to have guilt I felt that way... I'm over it. They choose to act this way. I wish there were GONE.
It was good to have a place
It was good to have a place to vent about. I called off dating him quite a few times. It was never him. It was always the kids. We decided to work through it together. And we are.
You have to understand I had a suspicion about the drugs and sex at 12. Sorry I wasn't more clear. She was for sure hanging with the wrong crowd. And made some comments that got my mom hackles up. I gently suggested he get her into therapy and he did right away. She was cutting but the therapist had helped to a degree it was thought. It wasn't until later my suspicions were verified for sure. At the time she only saw mom now and again. Everyone (including me) thought I was a good influence on her. In the beginning she wanted to be with me and my kids whenever she could. It wasn't until she realized I was busting her left and right that she began pulling away and acting out even more.
Truthfully, I believe she had a chance in the beginning. I think she was trying to turn it around. But then she'd spend time with her 'well educated' holier than thou mother who felt the best way to learn is through experience... 'let her LIVE!' Yeh... that didn't go so well.
He's made it clear to her that if he has to cut all ties with her, so be it. She's only over here maybe once a month. Maybe. She was avoiding my daughter at school at all costs. Bet she'll start avoiding again. Because she knows we'll go after her if she give my kid a dirty look at this point. It's a SMALL town. I already called a couple of cop friends and they told me what I could do what legally.
Husband has decided that he'll see her in therapy right now. That's it. We're working on a resolution on how he can have visits somewhere. Right now he's settled on the fact that mom can drive her to McDonalds. That's about it. He'll see her but only in a very public place.
Yeh, we didn't want her around the puppy truthfully. She has a dog at her mom's place. They have multiple dogs. The dogs urinate and defecate in the house, even on the beds. Dogs have torn up and eaten mattresses and she then texts me: can I bring my dog over this weekend?
Uh. No. Never.
My husband and I are getting through this together. My daughter and I talk... lots. My kids love their step dad quite a bit. But yeh, we're done having kids visit together. Done.
I can only imagine how bad this is hurting my husband. He goes to recitals and concerts for my kids. Helps them with homework... and then literally deflates when I hold up my phone to show him the high school is calling me. He's just so ashamed at how they turned out. And he truly tried SO hard. That's what is so frustrating. He TRIED.
And yes... looking back. If I
And yes... looking back. If I had to know she'd be THIS bad... I would have walked. I know it. I would have. We kept thinking... she cannot get any worse. Truly.
And she would.
My kids come first. He knows that. He knows if she pulls another stunt I will prosecute if possible. At this point I'd probably frame the kid. I know that's terrible to say... I do. And if you knew me in real life you'd be beyond shocked I said it. But I know she's still doing drugs. And it would only take a quick anonymous call to check her locker... or do a random drug test. If she acts out towards my kids in any form or fashion I'll make her life a living hell. And he knows it. Heck, he was the one that emailed the school and called when we found out she was dealing.
I know reading this as a third party it sounds a bit shocking... you have to realize it was all gradual. And when I did agree to marry the mother had already told us she planned to move the kids the next month out of state. We were fairly sure the kids were going to be gone gone gone. They told us they planned to never visit. And we said 'ok' that works for us!
So... we got the shock of the century when a friend that works at school called to let us know they had registered for the Fall... days into the semester. I was near hysterics. I went to see counselor at school and had it on my daughter's file then that I felt the SD may pull something and had previously threatened to plant drugs on my daughter. So when I called about this current incident it wasn't a shocker.
I almost pulled her to homeschool. But my daughter asked me to not let a bully control her life. And I abided by her wishes.
But this level... I'm done. I'm over it. The therapist's office just called to confirm the SD has an appt Monday. I asked husband to show up at her appt if possible. He called therapist yesterday to get her up to speed.
Pretty much since typing it all out... I'm done. Totally done with her.
We have a strong enough relationship that we can make it even with my declaring this... I think I'm telling him tonight I no longer want her in my home. Period. He'll need to do supervised visits elsewhere. I'm over them. SO over them.
Oh last thought for now...
Oh last thought for now... can you tell I keep most of this to myself usually?!!!!!
I had long long long discussions with my kids about this marriage. They were all on board about my husband. They just didn't like his kids. But they were forever offering up different solution on how we'd handle things. When we first tried family suppers... it was only with my children suggesting it. It was a disaster as middle son started laughing about Columbine and I almost jumped across table to strangle his snaky butt... but his older brother beat me to it and told him if he breathed again he was getting his butt kicked.
Yeh... after typing it all out. Like I said...done. I love my kids so very much. I know they want me happy. And they are happy here with me and their step dad (it's been a long hard 4 years living with my mom) but no way in heck will they be around step-siblings in the near future. No way.
Uh huh. I felt like I just
Uh huh.
I felt like I just read a novel. You owe it to your kids to find a peaceful place to live. They are good kids and deserve to not be stressed out. I understand that your husband is, for the most part, agreeable to your discontent. But, any amount of these kids in your life is just too much. I would move your daughter to another school, or fight like a freakin' monster to get that crazy sd out of the current school. She is a bad influence on anyone who comes her way. Good luck.
Your DH will always feel sad.
Your DH will always feel sad. But my DH found out his OS decided his mother's 'life lesson" regime was a much better option than spending time with his father and learning how to be a man. And consequently he ended up dropping/being thrown out of college and spending 2 yars in Drug Court. NOW, he is learning what it is to be a 'man'. It will still take a few years but he may come around to see his mother didn't do him any favours.
In time this girlbeast will find out there is only so long you can hide from trouble and consequences. And then she will want to spend time with the other beasts and whine and grizzle and bitch about you. And eventually she will come around. The thing is, maybe it will be too late.
Just let your kids appreciate him. My DD was a bitch first class for a few years yet now, she is my DHs favourite out of ALL our blended family ... including his own sons. He has only been in her life for 8 years and she is in her early 20s. But he will do anything for her because she cares about him and loves him.