Holy CRAP let's talk about crazy BMs for a second!!
Ugh, so where can I even start? Well, about a year ago I met my boyfriend. We worked for the same company but he worked in another state and was temporarily sent to my division to help train new hires and so on. The first time he and I had a "date" tho I viewed it as just dinner between co-workers, we talked about a LOT of things. My kids, his kid, my crazy ex, his current (but soon to be ex unbeknown to her it appeared) and so on. He explained to me that he had been in this relationship with this woman that he never developed feelings for, didn't even sleep with her anymore and just basically couldn't stand her and was just "there for his kid" (which I think is a terrible excuse) and that he was planning on "riding solo" for a good while after the "break up" but he was waiting until he went home to break it off because he prefers to have serious conversations face to face. He told me that the last straw with him came when she started trying to have herself declared disabled because she was "so bi-polar" and couldn't work. Now from what he told me, this woman didn't cook, didn't clean, didn't do laundry, pay bills or even take care of their child. She worked off and on, came home and would fall asleep on the couch and that was that. So that what whatever. I mean I did like him (a lot)but he was from another state and who knows how long he would be in my division and blah blah blah so we just hung out and had fun. Well that weekend I was planning on going to a local club and asked if he wanted to come along since we had so much fun the time before......only as friends, I expected nothing. He told me that between our first "hang out session" and the club night, the BM had pretty much forced him to tell her over the phone what was going on, and he did and broke up with her. Well the friendship kinda moved to a little more after that BUT again I was not trying to get into a relationship because of the fact that I didn't know how long he would be around. Even tho we got along so great and we were almost cut from the same fabric, I kept enough of a distance emotionally to not get too attached. Well long story short, I got attached, HE got attached and we fell in love..........scary.
So once again, the question kept coming up pf what would we do when he STOPPED working in my state....he finally asked me to move to his home state with him to which I needed time to REALLY think about for myself and my own kids. After several weeks of thought and realizing that this was the kindest most loving person that made me the happiest I have EVER been, I agreed to move. He assured me that things with the EX were good, she moved out, moved on and even told HIM that the break up was what was "best". And me, the person that usually walks into ALL situations very guarded, was so blinded by love that I let that guard down and moved without a care in the world! I had the love of my life, there would be NO DRAMA and I could finally have my happiness that I searched for for so long........well it didn't take long to realize (thanx to the ex) that I was F N delusional!!!
At the time I moved my boyfriend was working 28 days on and 28 days off, so it was on his days off that he moved me to his state. The DAY we arrive and start unpacking the truck the EX shows up......to drop the kid off. Not only does she show up out of the blue no call or anything, she WALKS right into my house checking it (and me) out. Well I let that one slide, the door WAS open from all the people coming in and out.....but after that she CONTINUED to walk into my house without so much as a freakin KNOCK! I quickly realized that she was NOT "over it" as she had said and felt like because she had that kid she is ENTITLED to something!! I brought this to my boyfriend's attention on MORE than one occasion but idk if he didn't believe me for some reason or because he just couldn't see her doing it or whatever. I got to the point that she would not only walk INTO my home, she would sit on my furniture, pet my dog and scope out my sh*t....I started to think SOON she was gonna ask me to make her a sandwich or something. Well thank GOD finally someone else, who had SEEN her just walk into my house TOLD my boyfriend that it was happening......THEN he believed me, apologized to me and told her NOT to do that. She was crowding me every chance she got! I mean, my boyfriend's parent live a stone's throw away and I couldn't/wouldn't go to THEIR house to visit because his EX was ALWAYS there!! She was even spending the night at his parent's home and he had NO IDEA this was going on while he was away at work! I had to tell him. And she was always there because the KID was always there. My boyfriend's parents kept the kid 5 nights out of 7 while she worked. Which I found strange because 6 months prior to my moving down she was "so bi-polar" she needed to be disabled! But she was trying to maintain a presence in his life in ANY way that she could...and if it couldn't be with him, then she'll do it through his parents.
So there was that weirdness, then she started calling my HOUSE!! She ALWAYS called his cell when it came to the kid but one night her number came across my house phone.....I was FURIOUS and told him that she needed to LOSE my house number. Anything having to do with the child she can call his cell, like its ALWAYS been. The next night, she calls my house again....at this point I knew she was just being a twisted b*tch and when he hung up I asked WHY did she call the house again. According to HER, she called the house cuz he never answered her text.....his phone was in the living room at the time so I immediately jumped out of bed and retrieved the phone....low and behold, NO TEXT MESSAGE!! And I said to him "NOW so you SEE that she's playing games"? He agreed and when she called the house a friggen THIRD time, in 2 days......he told her to ONLY call his cell and I blocked her number.
So its been going on and on and on with her petty nit picky b/s and yet my boyfriend is upset cuz i can't get settled in, well DUH, wonder why!! I've been on EDGE since I got here because of this lunatic EX!
So finally the twisted ex started banging a recruiter who convinced her (manipulated more like) to join the National Guard. I just wonder if he KNEW she was trying to be declared disabled due to being bi-polar 8 months earlier. BUT, who cares, she left for basic training.....YAY!! Funny thing about THIS is that the entire time she was AROUND (literally 10 miles away), and he was working, his parents watched the kid, all of a sudden she leaves for basic training and now I'M expected to keep this kid when he goes to work??? OH HELL NO!! I resented that so much because I can't stand the kid for one, he's spoiled rotten and an undisciplined little troll and TWO, why should I do something they don't even expect the kids own MOTHER to do?? F THAT NOISE!!
Anyway, she's been gone a month now and I haven't been happier or more "settled". The only problem is that I know, without a doubt that she will start her crap as soon as she gets back. We fight because he says that he "doesn't care about her" and "she can't get to him because he has me and he's happy and what we have is special" and that HE "can't understand why I let her get to me".....well SORRY love, we aren't ALL the same and we don't all handle things the same!! And he just can't get that....
The most recent incident was when I was at his parent's house yesterday and noticed a brand new picture of my boyfriend's son on their entertainment center. Which a new picture of their grandson wouldn't have been bad if SHE wasn't in the picture as well!! Again, she is trying to maintain a presence IN THIS FAMILY!! And I just found this utterly TACKY of her......It would be like me saying "I wonder if SHE'D like an invitation to our wedding".......TACKY!! Especially since I would be marrying the man that was supposed to be HER "happily ever after" But I told him, as long as SHE is present, I can't and won't be! You can NOT have 3 people in a relationship! And if SHE insists on staying in, and his family allows that, then I will have no choice but to remove MYSELF permanently and NOT just from his parent's lives which I have already done for the most part!!
Whew........so THERE'S my psycho ex story!!
Honey, I am so with you on
Honey, I am so with you on this one!! I swear, when I say the BM in my situation is certifiable, I swear I am not exagerating!! She did a lot of the same things you talked about..and has been a source of contention in my marriage. She is so miserable wtih her own life (her and my husband divorced becuase she had an affair and got knocked up by another man!) She finds lame ass excuses on a daily basis to be in contact with my DH. It drives me crazzy!! She uses the kids as an excuse, but it is stuff that could wait until the next day when my husband picks up his kids or whatever. It boils down to pure jealousy. She is jealous he is happy and has moved on. Hell, when she got pregnant she expected my husband to raise this other man's child with her!! She expects everyone to cater to her every whim, and she MUST control everything, and for years, she did. My DH even admits it was easier to do what she said than to cause a problem! Well guess what, those days are over. And now that my DH is standing up for himself and his kids, and not taking her crap anymore, she is flipping out even more, becuase he isn't falling into line and doing as he is told. She is making our life even more miserable than before!! And she even crept into the in laws too..she called up my MIL the other week, to talk to her and try to get her to feel bad for teh BM because we are taking her to court!! And the worse part?? MIL thought that was OK for them to talk!! my husband told her absolutely not, and I honestly am not sure if she is still talking to her or not!! Which of course, makes me want to keep a distance from my MIL..I don't understand how after everything the BM did to her son, and their kids, she could even stand the sight of her!!
I wish I had words of wisdom for you, I don't, but I can definately vent with you!! some BM's are so crazy because the realize what they lost when things ended with their man, and they hate us solely on principal, because they still view these men as their property, and basically we now have their property. UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!
What your BF fails to realize
What your BF fails to realize is that he has had x amount of time to deal with her BS. YOU on the other hand, have just gotten thrown into this situation unaware.
Add to that pulling up roots and moving elsewhere, that is a lot of stress to deal with.
Thank you SOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!
Thank you SOOOOOOOOO MUCH!! I'm just GLAD that someone understands!! It HAS been hard and I came down here on his word that she was "over it" and everything else only to discover that she is totally NOT!! And all he wants is for me to "get settled" because he wants me settled and happy and blah blah blah.....which at this time (while she's gone playing soldier mom) I have been pretty O K and not worked up, I just fear the minute she's BACK, it will start all over again........
My fiances ex stayed in the
My fiances ex stayed in the picture as long as she possibly could until we finally convinced his mother what a shitty person she was. I am so glad she finally saw the light. The ex would stay the night, go get her nails done with MIL..everything! It disgusted me!! Why do these exes feel a need to still be involved in a family they are no longer a part of?!
Maybe because some in-laws
Maybe because some in-laws still consider the mother/father of their grandchild(ren) a part of their family? It may be uncomfortable but it isn't totally insane.
However, the behavior in the OP is absolutely unacceptable.
I think a lot of in-laws
I think a lot of in-laws might do this in order to ensure their continued relationship with their grandchild(ren) - custody can change at any time and what would happen to them if suddenly BM had 100% control over their grandkids and wouldn't let them see them because they had a bad relationship or no relationship?
All I am saying is I can understand the logic.
All of that said, I don't have a relationship with my XH's parents. Sometimes I miss them, because they are really nice people, but they live nearby and I would never keep DD from them even if for some reason XH stopped bringing her to see them.
I get the whole "keep in
I get the whole "keep in contact for the sake of the kids" but my MIL kept pictures of BM on her wedding day hanging in her house for the longest time - even after he and I were married - "for SD8's sake because that's her Mom" - okay. Fine. Give the kid an album with the pictures in it so she can look at it. Whatever. But do I need to be forced to look at BM in her wedding dress every time I visit your house? No thanks. I stopped going over until they finally took them down.
Ok first of all, what does OP
Ok first of all, what does OP stand for? Second of all, BELIEVE ME when I say I have looked at the situation from ALL the angles, I really have. I firmly believe that the grandparents ARE maintaining the "relationship" with the BM ONLY to keep contact with the child......which I think is pretty crappy, but somewhat understandable! I mean when my boyfriend and the ex split up, HIS own mother told him that HE can move out into his house and the BM can stay with them because they were ALL living at my boyfriend's parents at the time of the split (weird) and the house my boyfriend had bought wasn't finished because he did NOT want to love in it with her, so he just QUIT working on it.....but he managed to get in finished in under 2 months for ME!
So the fact that the mother would throw her own son out and allow the BM to stay there "for the kid" made me extremely ILL because as far as I'm concerned, if she wasn't making him happy and he thought it best to end the relationship, his family should be backing HIM as far as I am concerned. And besides, she wouldn't keep the kid from them because they are HER PERSONAL BABYSITTERS!!! So I don't see that changing any time. Anywho, so I do somewhat understand that aspect of it, all I want is for THEM to understand MINE... I mean as far as I was concerned the picture was just TACKY!! Give them pics of the kids ALL YOU WANT, just not ones with her in them. I have 3 children, and when my older 2 were younger and I had pics taken, I would ALWAYS have pics of me with them for MY family, then pics of JUST them for their father's. And I did this because I didn't WANT to maintain any sort of presence in my ex's life. I thought about "what if he has a new girlfriend, how would that make her feel" believe it or not.......I just looked at how it would have made me feel (as it does) and went with that.
I mean, I am not saying that she needs to completely drop off the face of the earth (altho it would be nice) I would just for her to NOT keep trying to be so "center stage". She has the whole, "I'm your ONLY grandchild's mama so I'm entitled" thing going on and I can't stand it! I have 3 kids and I don't feel I am entitled to ANYTHING with their dads. I only communicate with my children's BMs when ABSOLUTELY necessary and just try and maintain as cordial a relationship as possible, nothing more. But it had gotten to the point before this A$$ left for boot camp that I got bent if she even came NEAR my house! If my boyfriend knew she was coming, he was OUTIDE waitin for her JUST so she would step FOOT on my porch!! Especially after all her "walk ins".
Like I said, I know he has tried but he can't control what she does or what his parents do and it doesn't help that the parents feel somewhat sorry for her because her OWN family can't stand her and won't help her......she is VERY GOOD at playing the "pity me cuz the love of my life just up and dumped me and now I'm a poor single mom" card and well, as uncaring as it sounds, that sounds like a personal problem to me. I did it and there are THOUSANDS of single parents that do it WITHOUT help......I'm PROOF of that!!
Hi, I'm brand new here. I
Hi, I'm brand new here. I have been with my boyfriend for about 18 months now. When we started dating, he had been separated from his EX for about 2 years but he wasn't yet divorced. He told me "the paperwork was done, just needed to be filed" I had my reservations about dating a man who wasn't divorced yet but I fell in love with him. At first, his EX seemed perfectly normal. then we moved in together, and suddenly she started changing their verbally agreed upon parenting plan on a near daily basis. Sometimes she would drop off not only their son but also HER daughter from a previous relationship at our house and disappeaer for days or weeks. Then she started lying to us about where she was, next thing you know she is calling my boyfriend to yell at him for me failing to call her to see the kids while he was away with the army. Things beyond his control have contributed to the fact that today he is still married. Other things I feel he could have taken control of but didn't because she threatens to keep his 6 year old son from him. By the way, she is a licensed Guardian Ad Litem for the local court and she is also a social worker for "at risk youth". The reason their marriage ended was that she had a sexual relationship with one of the youths in her program. I do not know if the sexual affair happened while he was still a juvenile or after he hit the age of consent but I suspect so. They moved in together once he discovered their affair. By the way, this former "at risk youth" is a convicted violent heroin addicted felon that attacked her in front of her children. The problem is, now she has turned her rage to me. We had an argument about 6 months ago over the phone. During this phone conversation she told me that my boyfriend abused her during their marriage. She began to cry when she told me this. I told her that I thought that was an outrageous accusation. The conversation got extremely heated and she blamed me for all kinds of REALLY crazy things. Immediately following that, she attempted to keep their son from visiting his father because "i was so disgusting" and I was a liar, yada yada yada. We have not had a conversation since that time because I have insisted upon boundaries with her, she is no longer permitted to come inside the house. She calls him to come over to help her with "problems" all the time and because he is so afraid that she will follow through on her threat to not let him see his son, he walks on egg shells. Recently he has deployed to afghanistan. In his absence my daughter and i haven't seen their son but we miss him and i have invited him to come over several times. She always says no to me and then sends emails to him telling him that it's because I'm a liar and she doesn't trust me. I finally had enough and told her in an email, with a cc: to him, that if she was going to accuse me of anything she would have to substantiate her accusation. I asked her who i lied to, when did i tell this lie and what was the lie? she claimed the lie i told was that she had told me that he beat her when they were together and that she never said that. Well she did say that. Next thing you know we are in a month long email battle and she is again threatening to change their parenting plan when he gets home if I continue to meddle in their relationship. i finally ended the email war by saying i was moving on and that i forgave her and that i would pray for her. she fired back a few nasty emails and i haven't replied. she's a classic "abuser" and blame shifter and I'm just here looking for support on how to deal with her not only now while my man is deployed but also in the future when he gets home. I would be horrified if she managed to change their parenting plan when he gets home, based on her telling lies about me. He is a wonderful father. She is a pathological liar, blame shifter, drama maker and i believe she is also mentally ill. HELP!