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Heavnerth's picture

I am presently dating a man who I absolutely adore, but I cannot stand his 2 sons.  He is a single dad and they both live with him so pretty much everything we do involves doing it with the kids.  There is little opportunity to escape. 

Let me preface this by giving a little background. I am a mother of one son. He is 21. For most of his life I was in a 16-1/2 year relationship with a man.  We were set to marry but, needless to say, things fell apart and it never happened. We broke up and I stayed single (not dating) for a few years to recover and heal.   While we were together he was very critical of my son and my parenting.  He came from an authoritative parental background.  I am more authoritarian. My son and I have an awesome relationship and he is truly a great kid.  I am also a teacher, so children have always been my thing. 
 

I met my current boyfriend about a year and a half ago.  I knew from the moment I met him that there was something amazing about our chemistry and we have honestly been inseparable since the day we met.  We do everything together.  We enjoy each other's company. We are great friends.  I love him dearly.  
 

However, his kids are an absolute terror. The youngest is 9. The oldest is 14. He also has an adult daughter who I get along with quite well, but she lives independently and I don't see her often.  His boys are both spoiled, manipulative, loud, imposing, and sometimes disrespectful. They absolutely do not follow any directive without having to be told various times.  In fact, if you ask them not to do something, they will both intentionally do it again and again, seconds after you make the request, in absolute and utter defiance.  They youngest one is unbelievably loud and incredibly hyperactive.  He literally stands in one spot and jumps- over and over. He will do this for HOURS. He recently started making these high pitched squeaking noises and does it over and over. At first I thought it was some sort of a tick but then i asked him why he does it. His response was, "I don't know. I just do."  I asked him to stop and, of course, he did not.  When I realized he continued i just shot him a look, to which he replied, "Ok- I'll stop."  Granted, a lot of what he does is just typical kid stuff, but the things that are not typical, his father ignores. He jumps on furniture, he whines DAILY, he throws tantrums at the mere mention of the word "NO," and he is extremely demanding of his father's attention all of the time.  Believe it or not, he is my favorite of the two.

The oldest kid is flat out intolerable. He is a know-it-all who always interjects in adult conversation no matter the topic. He is also over weight, lazy, and refuses to get out of his bed unless he is called downstairs to eat.  He literally lays in bed 24 hours a day.  He is picky, unbelievably demanding and extremely critical. He complains constantly. There has rarely been an occasion that I cook for them when he doesn't complain that something is weird tasting or he doesn't eat this or that. (Mind you, I'm a pretty good cook).  He ALWAYS tries to find wrong in everything I say and do. His antagonism has really defined who he is to me, and I truly detest his presence.  His father is no help. He clearly feels very guilty about the situation with their mother so he overcompensates by entertaining their every whim, not disciplining them, and allowing them to do pretty much whatever they want on their terms, as often as possible. 
 

One element that I have not explained- the kids' mom. She is in the picture but she has been homeless (staying with a friend) for the last year and she does little to nothing for the kids financially.  Because of her circumstance, my boyfriend allows her to "babysit" the kids at his house (we don't live together although I sleep at least 4-5 nights a week at his house).  She comes in the morning and leaves when he returns from work. She leaves food and clothing there and has even slept in the kids' beds.  She has a KEY to his house. I don't even have one. This makes me incredibly uncomfortable. We have had a few conversations about this that have not ended well. He insists that if we lived together that none of this would be happening but I can't see that far into the future if he doesn't make concessions for me now. Their co-parenting situation is not normal and the only person who is making any concessions or sacrifices is me at this point.  Not to mention the oldest is a mama's boy so he revels in the idea of her being there. 
 

Most of my family cannot stand these kids- especially my son. He hates to see them coming.  I really love my boyfriend and i want a future with him but I don't know how to deal with the kids and their mother.  My boyfriend admittedly lost a relationship because of this in the past (particularly because of the kids' mom). I told him that he must realize that he is the common denominator- not the women he has been with.  He seems to believe that he is doing what he thinks is best for the kids, but I'm certain it is not- and it is definitely not what is best for us. 
 

Can anyone relate to this?

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hereiam's picture

He's not ready for a serious relationship. He needs to get his house in order first, and I'm not just talking about his actual, physical house.

Sorry.

donewithdrama35's picture

The kids sound super annoying and rude but that I could possibly deal with if your BF was disciplining them. Omg the 9 year old making that sound- SD did that for like a year straight when she was 14. I wanted to kill her every time- lol. 
 

His ex coming over- nope couldn't deal with that. I don't know if they mutually split or not but no matter the circumstances I couldn't have my significant other having such a friendly relationship with his ex. 

I would personally need to see changes now before I commit to anything further with him.. 

Heavnerth's picture

They actually aren't friendly at all. In fact they rarely speak.  The oldest kid does most of the communication with her. If I'm there and she happens to show up, he is very attentive to me. She refuses to speak to me when he is around, but if I happen to see her when he's not around, she's chatty patty.  A few weeks ago I was to pick up the youngest to take him to get a haircut/dye (my sister is a stylist). He had begged his mom for a year to do it (she works in the industry) but she ignored him. When I went to pick him up, she was "babysitting" and rather than staying at my BFs house as expected, she took them to her moms house on the other side of town. My BF called and told her to bring the kid to my sisters salon because after driving to one side of town, I refused to go to the other side. She brought him and then sat and watched as my sister did his hair. She paid for nothing. She refused to leave and insisted on conversing with me- I cut convo short. (This was the first time i heard her call my name- i didn't even respond immediately because i was shocked) I thought she only stayed because she was actually going to take the kid back with her when he was done. Instead, she texted my BF and told him to go and pick up the oldest kid from the other side of town because she was leaving. She RARELY takes the kids anywhere or does anything beyond babysitting at his house.  
 

The salon was literally full of my family- (it was after hours and they were just hanging out) all of whom wondered what the hell she was doing there.  Once my BF showed up, she left. I swear I wanted to kick her down a flight of stairs.  My BF asked her why she was even still there and she said she wanted to see the kids hair once finished.  I wished he had told her to leave but he feels like he would be robbing his kid of time with her since she is such a piss poor excuse for a mom and spends no quality time with them. 

Wicked stepmo.'s picture

If he has had this arrangement with BM and you already have a poor relationship with SKs. I would be concerned that if he did comply with your request it would only cause SKs to dislike you more as they are used to BM coming over all the time so it would be a huge disruption for them. 

Heavnerth's picture

I worry about that too. Although I have a good relationship with the youngest- he is quite attached to me. He tells me he loves me and is very affectionate. I do my best to hide my annoyance but I don't always succeed. The oldest would hate my guts if his mother couldn't come over anymore.  He resents that they aren't together anymore I think, although he was too young to remember when they actually were. 

hereiam's picture

He insists that if we lived together that none of this would be happening

The oldest would hate my guts if his mother couldn't come over anymore

So, any changes that are made, are going to be blamed on you since the father has allowed this nonsense.

You are really in a losing battle.

 

Harry's picture

It's going to be.  He can not parent, control his kids.  How are you going go live there or like this,  first time you say something,to the kids it's going to be war.  You can not be an adukt in a relationship with out making your opponent known,   And what you says goes,   
 

This seems to be a no win thing.  Unless a BF does something,  what he not doing yet 

Exjuliemccoy's picture

As a teacher, you know those skids are only going to get worse with age. And as a well-adjusted adult, you know this set up your bf has with his ex is both abnormal and unhealthy. 

I find it telling that despite these two parents having full time care of their kids, the boys are still a mess. That means there are TWO shi!!y parents at work here. And there's really no separating the "amazing" bf from the shi!!y parent, especially when he has full custody and the skids are still relatively young.

The dysfunction predates you, with all the involved parties content with the status quo, so your choice is to either go along with it or remove yourself from it. But I caution you - if you stay, there is no guarantee either of those boys will launch  ... ever, and your bf's poor parenting will gradually erode your respect for him. This is why other posters are telling you there is no future with this guy.

NarcissisticSkids's picture

No future with this guy unless you want to be miserable 25 years from now...seriously, get.out.while.you.can

SM12's picture

He's saying the BM wouldn't be around like that if you moved in....he is blatantly telling you he expects YOU to care for his children in her place. Please learn from my experience,if you can't stand the kids now you will really dislike them even more once you are forced to watch them.  And you will resent your BF too.  It will kill your relationship.  Do not move in...limit the time you see his kids.  Frankly I would be done over the BM issue but that is your call to make.

qtpie013178's picture

They have a dysfunctional pathology going o. That will not change unless your boyfriend puts his foot down and then the kids and ex will probably make his life hell at least temporarily. I doubt his guilt will let him set boundaries, and you will be hurt and burnt out. Move on from him. Maybe he'll change it if he has to change it to keep you. Most likely, you'll meet someone else that's a better fit, and realize you dodged a bullet by leaving this dysfunctional circus.