Well apparently the step back last nite was not an isolated event but a new pattern
So dh had some pals over tonite. Evidently the pals were out front while ss and ds were playing basketball. Evidently something went down and my ds ended up " slapping" ss. He realized what he did and apologized immediately to ss. Pal went and told dh- dh grounded my ds for the weekend. Ds's story is that ss threw the basketball at his face and he was retaliating. I have no idea what truly occurred as I was not there- which neither was dh
Now do I think my ds should be punished for slapping anyone. Well, sure he probably should. However, ss can be verbally aggressive with all the kids in the house daily and NEVER gets punished for it. He can get detentions at school and Never get a consequence at home. He can fail his classes because he chooses not to do his homework and evidently this is all ok- no need for punishments or consequences. But dh feels ok about punishing ds because he effs up once. I kind of think of it as the kids you hear about being bullied at school. They eventually Lose it and strike back. I thinking that all my kids have pent up anger towards ss as I know I sure do. Does it mean ds should slap him? No. However eventually everyone has a breaking point when someone treats them like shit daily.
If ss was being " handled" appropriately I wouldn't have a problem with ds being punished. There would be no reason for him to lash out at ss other than his own inability to handle his emotions. I guess if he just would have went off and screamed at ss then that would have been acceptable.
So now dh is pissed at me too as when we talked about it- which he overheard ds talking to me and he walks up to me after and begins the conversation with " are you really going to justify that?". I commented that I didn't justify anything- in fact the ONLY thing I said to ds when he told me this and complained about being grounded was, " I don't know what to tell you about that" as I had not even had a discussion with dh about it yet. But somehow I mediately get accused of "justifying" ds's behavior. So of course I went into defense mode and told dh if we are going to discipline for aggression it needs to be for all aggression- including the verbal crap that goes on daily. Well that pissed him off. I reminded him of last nite and how he had to hear ss yelling at dd and did nothing about it. He denied hearing (yeah right buddy- you were in the next room I was all the way in the basement- across the house with the tv on). Then he told me he had a " talk" with ss about it. I said ok we can have a " talk" with ds. Nope- not good enough. Slapping is not tolerated by dh- just constant screaming and bullying is what goes on without blinking an eye.
To add injury to insult- it is apparent that ss is super stoked about going to his mommy's this weekend. Wants to get up early so he can get his stuff ready. For leaving tomorrow evening. ( how long does it take to throw a couple pairs of shorts and tshirts in a bag? He called my mil to secure a ride to the meeting spot and told her thank you very much for taking me. Wtf? If I had taken him I know I wouldn't get a thank you. No ride home has been secured either- if I pick him up I am sure I won't be told thank you either. Im glad to be rid of him- bur how he can be so excited to spend the weekend with a woman who wanted to terminate her rights to him less than a year ago- has only seen him 3 times since then- pays no child support- doesn't call except every 3 months or so and has told him and dh in Jo uncertain terms that she is not willing to ever let him live there again and who according to ss mistreated him for years is beyond me. But what do i know?
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I think you did well to keep
I think you did well to keep your temper and point out to DH that ALL aggression should be punished, including verbal, or none at all. Hope your son does beat SS to a pulp, as Foxie said. I admire you for living with this boy - I couldn't, even if it meant ending my marriage. You never know - SS might get on so well with MOTY that he wants to go and live with her - now wouldn't THAT be a happy ending? }:)
Oh I wish- but the bitch
Oh I wish- but the bitch won't allow him to mess up her life by living there.
I think your DH needs to look
I think your DH needs to look at his kids behavior patterns and learn.
BM kicks him out and refuses to allow him to live with her: kid looks forward to seeing BM and gets up early to ensure he is ready- thusly not pissing dear old mom off by being late.
Grandma kicks him out and refuses to allow him to live with her: kid will call grandma and ask nicely for favors and even use manners.
Dad puts up with his shyte and wonders why the kid never changes,always misbehaves and makes everyone around him miserable.
Hmmm.
Round two was this morning.
Round two was this morning. He slept on the sofa because we got in a " fight". I said I didn't fight with anyone. He told me I told ds he could do whatever he wanted. How he gets that out of " I don't know what to tell you about that, ds" is beyond me. He even admitted that he is aware that ss will walk behind ds snd slap him upside the head or run into him in the hallway and push him into the wall. But that's " different". Ss also apologized to ds last nite- so gee he must have done something, right? No, according to dh it was all unprovoked.
What an asshole,
Are you me? Seriously! My SS
Are you me? Seriously! My SS is wildly disrespectfully to everyone. BM took him to counseling yesterday (he wasn't happy going btw) and when asked by DH, SS said: "That was a complete waste of my time. Counselor saw everything from a parent perspective. You owe me two hours!". He's 16! Last time we tried counseling (2 yrs ago) he only said, Yes or No. Sprinked w/ "are we done here coz I have things I need to do". No consequence for that. Same w/going to Dr.'s -- he tells them off for keeping him waiting or if they "hurt" him he'll punch them. (Dentist 2x). Such a jerk! Tells me to f off all the time... but I disengaged so all I hear is the sound of my footsteps walking away.
See I don't get involved
See I don't get involved either. When ss is going with the verbal aggression- I simply advise my children to ignore ss, go into another room, stay away from him. This pisses dh off too as he considers this me teaching the other kids to ignore/ not like ss. If I catch them arguing, tussling I separate them and gave sent them both to their rooms. Inside I truly believe ss starts the majority of it- but I know not all of it- so I try and remain neutral and stay out of it. I can't set these sorts of rules as dh would never enforce them and he us with the kids far more than me. I think what's going on here is that dh knows ss has big issues- that he doesn't do a whole lot about. He tries to " level the playing field" by taking this one thing ds did and making a huge deal out of it. That way he can normalize his own kids behavior. And ss has a history of being aggressive both physically and verbally with kids at school. My ds has never had even a single incident. He is not an aggressive kid. Also to note, when ss would get in trouble at school for this crap dh would never punish him and made excuses for him. I would be mortified if my ds got suspended. Period. Doubly mortified if he was being aggressive with another kid.
Ss harassed my kids on a daily basis. He truly does. Dh does nothing to stop it. To me that's what creates situations like this.
On a wide note before I left for work I went thru the bag that ss had packed for bm's. My ds's underwear was in there. He has been asked repeatedly to quit taking ds's underwear, but gee I guess he just doesn't feel like it. That right there would be reason enough for me to slap him.
ds would be ungrounded, what
ds would be ungrounded, what is good for the goose is good for the gander, it would be like this "DH deal out your consequences as you see fit to your OWN child and I will deal out consequenses for my own child. This is now the way we live at my house, since SD16 can fail school, get suspended, have multiple detentions, you name it and nothing is ever done, but when DD rolled her eyes and DH a couple of weeks ago he took her ipod. Yet my daughters just got National Honor Society, and have never had a discipline problem at school.
This is exactly my life. I
This is exactly my life. I don't think my children are perfect by any means, but they are truly good kids. They are nowhere in the same league as ss14. My dh would have a cow if I suggested he stop parenting my kids- I think he'd end up taking it out on them.