Could Skids harm Bkids???? H??? Coincidence or Deliberate Endangerment?
I have been afraid to express on a public forum the details but an incident occurred whereby it is possible? that my adult skids may have deliberately placed my BDs in harms way! This has been weighing on my mnd for some time now and feel that I need outside input on it to help me figure it out! My minor BDs and H were loaned an offroad vehicle from SD and her husband about the time that H was to get his inheritance from his mother's estate that ended up catching on fire with BDs on it! They had not gone 1/2 block when it caught on fire and started smoking - unfortunately it was beyond the view of our house so we did not know at that time! They continued driving until it quit running - probably due to the fire! Oldest BD stated that the seat felt hot to her legs. Luckily the oldest BD had her cell with her and called us and we told them to abandon the vehicle and walk away from it! When H drove around to them he opened the seat cover that covered the engine and found that it was actually on fire - he saw flames! Flames that had started within minutes of them starting the vehicle! Before H was loaned the vehicle he was asked for the first and only time to sign a hold harmless agreement! H and other friends had been loaned this same type vehicle many times before by SD and her husband and several friends have been loaned this type of vehicle since this time and NO ONE has been asked to sign a hold harmles agreement! So this fact made this unusual and suspicous in itself!
The vehilce that was loaned to us was in fact gas propelled as opposed to the electric ones that we and others had had in the past. I point this out because I think that this would have posed a potential for explosion from the fire as opposed to an electric model. I searched online and discovered that these types of vehicles can totally burn up within as short a time period as 10 minutes. My family was extremely lucky that no harm befell our BDs.
However, when H called and informed SD and her husband that this had happended they did not even seem surprised or concerned! When SD came to our house later that night did she express concern for BDs? NO! Did adult SD ask if minor half sisters were even okay? NO! She, with a GLEEM in her eye, wanted to know all of the gory details about what exactly happened to SDs! The look on her face when she asked this told me volumes! If EVIL can be dispalyed in facial expressions, then I saw it first hand in her face! I was horrified at her behavior and concerned about the safety of BDs! None of them ever expressed any level of concern for BDs about the incident!
Shortly after this incident, SS kept asking H to go hunting with him. SS never wanted to go hunting with H before this. SS wanted him to go hunting in an area that was known for accidental shootings to occur - some fatal. It is an overhunted area and many hunters have been accidentally shot in this area. SS never went hunting here before. I found it suspicous because we were in the process of updating our wills at this time because of their horrible behavior after H's mother died in addition to the fact that SS -except for the strange hunting invitation- refused to talk to H either on the phone or in person! It seemed suspiciuos and strange to me and I was glad H was not physically up to it at the time so it was not something he could even consider doing.
Later - a few months after SS quit talking to H (but right before we had met with the atorney to sign the final version of the new wills) SS called up one Sunday to demand that H come to his trailer out in the woods by himself late that next Monday night at 7 pm (one day's notice)- supposedly to talk. SS would not even return H's call prior to this. H informed him that this time and date was not convenient as this was a weekday and he had to pick up BDs from school, feed them, and take them to their after school activity as I would not be home from work by then. H also told SS that I had to pack when I got home for an out of town work assignment the next day so I would be unavailable to help youngest BD with homework as usual so he would have to help with that also.
SS went ballistic on him! He threatened him, called me and H names, said he wasn't a man if he couldn't come, demanded that I should take over so he could drop everything and go, taunted him by asking him if he was scared to come, bullied him, etc. (There is a pattern of insults and manipulation tactics that both adult SS and SD run through every time they try to manipulte H to do what they want and SS went through all of them!) After the call ended about 20 inutes later H gets a call from adult SD! She them goes off on him. This is the adult SD that claims to have to have adult SS talk for her because she does not like confrontation! LOL!!!!!!! It appears to me that she "doeth protest too much" and actually lives for it! SD went through the exact same pattern of insults and manipulation tatics that SS had already subjected H to - threatened him, called me and H names, said H wasn't a man if he couldn't come, demanded that I should take over so H could drop everything and go, taunted H by asking him if he was scared to come, bullied him, etc. SD also tried guilt - telling H that SS needed to talk to him and only that date and time would do, also told H that BM would drop everything and do it if SD asked her to! They both rejected H's attempts to schedule another date and time. It seems no other date or time would do???? This part of the discussion raised all kinds of yellow flags for me. This made me wonder what they were planning on that particular date.
H expressed some concern and suspicion over the fact that they refused to reset the date. H left it with them that they would get back with another date - not what thye wanted. They never did! We signed the new wills the next week (H never told skids about new wills but they could have heard about them through other family members who knew that we were meeting with an attorney???? Or again it could be a coincidence???)
H downplays my concerns about these incidents somewhat now but he must have had some concerns himself at the time because he did not want to go hunitng with SS nor did he want to meet him out in the woods alone - even if he could have.
I feel somewhat alone in my concerns though. Am I overreacting? Are these all just coincidences? Do you think that these adults could be so greedy that they could harm us? Looking at the news it happens all of the time so...... It is very evident from their actions that they do wish us harm - whether they would actually intiate it or not is the question here???
They have admitted that they are jealous of minor BDs ( over money issues) and are furious at me (over money issues) so I don't plan on taking any chances but just want some feedback to see if any of you would also feel concern the same as I do about this????.
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I would go with my gutt
I would go with my gutt feeling on this one. If they can have a chance to hurt you guys, they will. Plain and simple
1. Dont ever leave your daughters alone with them.
2. Dont ever be alone with them. ALways in public.
3. The son meeting privately in the woods????? no, if he wants to hunt, that means he has a gun. NEVER let your dh meet his son in these circumstance.
These kids are pist about money? maybe they think of killing the dead they'll get their inheritance? no, i think if the son ever tries to invite dad on hunting or fishing alone idea that he goes in a group and not alone with son. or doesn't go at all. I'm sure your dh felt uneasy and for his son to exploid, there was definitely something behind it.
If it truly gets more bizarre , i would at least inform the police and make a file. or at least document it withthem. Tell them you have no proof but kids are pist over money,,explain allthe odd demands and situations.
In the end, Keep your family away from these two. And always plan somethingin public with them on your times and dates. NEVER on their terms.
oh, i also would hire a
oh, i also would hire a personal investigator on them. See if what they buy, where they go , just to see what they are doing. God forbid if they are truly trying to harm you guys. Cause if there is proof , they will be arrested and placed in jail.
I hate to say it but we all
I hate to say it but we all know this does happen all the time! You can look at crimelibrary.com or do an internet search to see. It usually seems to be teen kids, but that doesn't mean older ones can't be immature also.
I actually worry about this too and so have told my family and friends, that if anything ever happens to me or DH, to look at SD/BM.
I would continue to warn DH, but it does sound like he is aware of the risks. I would DEFINITELY report this to the police, if just to document.-!!
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I would "NEVER" talk about
I would "NEVER" talk about "WILLS" of inheritance to anyone BUT My FH. Why does your family know what your plans are.."Going to the lawyers next week" They ONLY know your PLANS WHEN YOU ALLOW FAMILY TO know YOUR business!! YOU SHOULD BE KEEPING ALL OF THAT "private" BETWEEN YOU & DH.
"never told skids about new wills but they could have heard about them through other family members who knew that we were meeting with an attorney???? Or again it could be a coincidence???)
People should THINK before they talk... Anything ( they gather information wise) they get by you talking about personal business.
IF you don't , they have NO info.!!!
After reading what you wrote..my hair on my arms stood up !
I think you should get a private investigator( even without DH knowledge) and have someone look into this...watch them etc.
it does seem weird that they get so angry, when he refused to go hunting or meet alone with them.
DO NOT ALLOW YOUR HUSBAND TO EVEN VISIT THEM. IF HE MUST, IT SHOULD BE DONE IN A PUBLIC PLACE, SUCH AS A RESTAURANT, WITH LOTS OF PEOPLE AROUND.
ALSO BUY YOURSELF A MICRO VOICE RECORDER , VOICE ACTIVATED.30-40 DOLLARS, RADIO SHACK SELLS THEM. I WOULD BE COPING AND RECORDING EVERY CONVERSATION BETWEEN THEM AND YOUR DH AND YOURSELF, FROM NOW ON IF THERE IS CONTACT.
WHETHER IT'S ON THE PHONE OR IN PERSON, I ALSO WOULD GET SOMEBODY YOU TRUST 1000%, AND FORWARD ANY EMAILS FROM THEM TO KEEP AS COPIES.
AND MAKE A FILE, OF EVERYTHING. ALSO COPY WHAT YOU WROTE HERE & FILE IT OR GIVE A COPY TO YOUR LAWYER. JUST ENCASE SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN.( so they know what you've been thinking)
DO I THINK THEY COULD HURT YOU & YOUR CHILDREN AND HUSBAND "YES"
AS IT STANDS, WHEN YOUR HUSBAND INHERITED FROM HIS MOTHER. IF SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN TO HIM, IT SHOULD GO TO YOU. IT'S POSSIBLE A PERCENTAGE WOULD GO TO HIS FIRST BORN CHILDREN TOO. ASK YOUR LAWYER. ( TO BE SURE) BUT IF YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WERE OUT OF THE PICTURE THE NEXT IN LINE, ARE HIS CHILDREN. THE EX WIFE GETS NOTHINGS...BUT SHE COULD ALSO BE IN WITH THE KIDS, IF SHE'S THAT EVIL.
I WOULD NEVER LEAVE THE MINOR CHILDREN ALONE, MAKE SURE THEIR ALWAYS WITH AN ADULT, SOMEONE YOU TRUST. AND KEEP YOUR MOUTHS CLOSED. THEY ONLY HAVE THE INFO IF YOU GIVE IT TO THEM.
or......Here is something I would do( below)..since you already think they are conspiring to harm you, and /or the younger children.
WHY DON'T YOU TRY THIS?? RECORD THIS WITH OUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE ALSO, WITH THE RECORDER I MENTION ABOVE, (THE TAPES LAST A COUPLE HOURS, AND BUY EXTRA ONES). AND BEFORE THEY ARRIVE , MAKE IT CLEAR ON THAT TAPE, THIS IS A 'FAKE WILL', AND REASON FOR THE CONVERSATION AND MEETING!!!
YOU COULD ALSO GET A FRIEND OF YOURS, WHO THE ADULT KIDS/FAMILY DO 'NOT' KNOW TO COME AND ACT LIKE A LAWYER OR A FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND THIS PERSON CAN ALSO BE A WITNESS, AND GIVE A UNBIASIED OPINION ON WHAT TRANSPIRES, DURING CONVERSATIONS.
THAT WOULD MAKE IT LOOK GENUIEN!!!
INVITE THEM ALL FOR DINNER, TELL THEM YOU HAVE BUSINESS TO DISCUSS WITH THEM CONCERNING THEM,(DO NOT TELL THEM,WHAT IT IS UNTIL THEY ARRIVE) AND DISCUSS THE WILL WITH THEM ( A FAKE WILL) TELL THEM YOU AND HUBBY ARE WRITING A NEW ONE, AND BE VERY GENEROUS TO THEM.."DO NOT TELL THEM ANYTHING THAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE REAL NEW WILL" ASK THEM WHAT THEY WOULD "LIKE" EXAMPLE,ASK THEM, WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THE CASH, LIFE INSURANCE, OR THE HOUSE ETC.( MAKE A OUTLINE ON PAPER)
AND SEE HOW THEY REACT..TO THIS...THAT COULD GIVE YOU A INSIGHT AS TO WHAT THEIR UP TOO.!
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WOULD DO. THEN I WOULD PUT THE TAPE IN SAFE DEPSOIT BOX OR SOMEHWERE SAFE. AND ALSO MAKE COPIES, HAVE A FRIEND KEEP THEM.
TELL THEM, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS FAIR FOR ALL "OUR CHILDREN"
AND YOU THOUGHT IT WOULD BE THE EASIEST, IF YOU KNEW WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE, WHEN YOUR TIME COMES.
For example - there is
For example - there is something about every week like this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34790531/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
My money is tied up to where my skid will never see a dime of it!
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