Wetting Pants
My SS4 has been completely potty trained for over a year now. Around Spring Break time he had a couple of accidents at our house. We talked with him about them and he said it was because he was holding it for too long. We did some research on this and it appears that regression in this area is typical for boys.
When we dropped SS off with BM he had just had his 3rd accident for the week. We asked if she’s had problems with this, and she said “SS has been having a lot of accidents lately,” and she was really snotty about it. We just left it at that, she didn’t offer any other information.
When we got home we sent her an email asking for more information. She reported it only happens right after he’s been with us – implying that it was a result of something we did. Of course she didn’t answer our question as to how long the accidents had been occurring.
The following weekend we started a sticker book rewarding him when he went potty in the toilet, and told us. After so many stickers, he’d get a star on our chart. He did not have any accidents with us that following weekend, but BM reported he had accidents with her.
I followed up with the teacher and she reported it only happened once. So, now we are at the beginning of May. SS is still having accidents with BM, but has not had any more with us, other than the 3 over Spring Break. Teacher said that one time was the only time it happened.
DH and BM spoke this past Wednesday regarding another concern she has. DH asked how the accidents were coming, and she said he’s been having accidents every day, and now he is lying about it. DH confirmed this with SS’ teacher … however, he did not have an accident today – the day DH went and picked SS up.
Now as a GAL I see all kinds of red flags with this regression, but I also know that it can be normal. How many accidents is normal? How long does this generally occur? Any suggestions for handling BM and/or SS on this matter? We shared the sticker book with her, but, of course, no response.
Any input you all can give would be appreciated. We are out of town this weekend, so forgive me if I don’t respond until Sunday or Monday.
~ Katrina
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Normal depends on the kid.
Our BS never had a problem. Once he was potty-trained, he was potty-trained and never really had any accidents, although he did go through a brief bedwetting period at age 5.
Our BD is now 4 and she has been trained since about 2 1/2. She does great most of the time and will go several weeks with no accidents, then for some mysterious reason, have a couple of days during which she'll have accidents. So far, there's been no problem with bedwetting. We couldn't figure out why she'd have short periods of a day or two with accidents when she can go such long stretches with no accidents. Then we finally figured it out! When she would get a little constipated, she would start to "strain" to have a bowel movement before she was actually on the potty, which would result in urine leakage. So we now know that if she does have an accident, it's probably because she needs to do #2 and is just too impatient and busy to sit on the toilet to make her deposit. We increase her intake of apple juice to help her poop and it usually requires one of us to sit in the bathroom with her until she goes, but once she does have a BM, the accidents magically stop.
We figure this is partly because at this age, they are so darn BUSY! They are into everything, learning about all kinds of stuff and just too interested in other things to sit on the potty if it's going to take longer than a couple of minutes. She'll grow out of it and it's already getting better. We've put a few of her favorite books in the bathroom so she can read while she's on the toity and that's helped, too.
~ Anne ~
"Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission."
-Eleanor Roosevelt
Thanks Anne
I can't help but think there is something else wrong too.
Yes, he told us that he is just too busy playing that he "forgets" ... has a little accident, then goes potty. This weekend I've tried to remind him regularly to go potty ... he was so good all day today, until we came home and played in the sprinklers ... then a little oops ...
Someone on my other list mentioned that he might be stressed about the schedule, but our schedule is fairly normal ... every other weekend, no significant changes. He knows when he is coming, daddy calls when we don't have him. I can see an accident here and there because he was too busy playing, but I just can't help but think there is more too it.
~ Katrina
My BS
My BS had problems when he was that age as well. I never saw it as a problem with his life style. I never thought of that. The sticker book is a brilliant idea!
I think he was stubborn and HATED the toilet and potty chair. He is grown now and would be mortified I am telling anyone this LOL!!!!
How often ..
How often did your BS have accidents? I wasn't overly concerned until BM said he'd had an accident every day since we dropped him off last. DH confirmed this with teacher when he picked up SS on Friday.
It seems to be getting worse for him, so I guess I'm wondering what IS normal ... how many accidents ... how long should it last?
~ Katrina
I Don't Think It Was an Accident
He did it everyday. I couldn't even get him to SIT on the potty or toilet. It was a nightmare. My Grandmother babysat them and finally trained him since she babysat him during the day. My son was 4 before he stopped. Now my other son potty trained right away.
One thing...
A lot of bed wetting/ potty accidents can also be associated with the size of the bladder. Most of the time, if the child is growing, thirst, appetite, etc grows too, and sometimes the bladder may still be catching up, often resulting in bed wetting and potty accidents. It's usually very innocent. And it can go as late as 12 years old in spurts. Often, a child doesn't quite have a grasp on the time frame, when is the right time to go to the potty, etc. They get easily distracted, and they just haven't quite got it yet, so when the body changes, things happen a little quicker than they are used to- the result- accidents.
I would be more concerned about reminding him, rewarding him, etc, all the things you are doing. Also, make sure he knows that it's okay, not to be embarrassed, because some kids get embarrassed about it, and they won't necessarily tell you. But it's normal.
StepMom
Man has the intelligence to change his life,
Sometimes, he just fails to use it...
Thanks ...
Yes, one thing I did learn, and I passed on to BM, is the worst thing we can do is make an issue out of it, and punish him.
This weekend we had one tinny accident ... he was playing outside in the water, and "leaked." No other accidents. Of course BM probably doesn't believe us.
I guess that's why I'm so concerned. He doesn't do it much at all when he's with us.
~ Katrina
RE:
What gets me is that he's not wetting himself at your house, but he is at school and with BM. I think this is a lack of communication and joint effort. Maybe your DH can share the sticker book with the teacher and ask if she could try it, or give some other reward for telling her he's gone potty in the toilet. I would hope that BM would be able to understand the benefit of the book if DH could get across to her that it's really helping SS when he's with you in a way that she doesn't feel attacked or belittled.
*~So sayeth Nymh~*
Great idea ...
Not sure they'll go for it ... too many other kids to worry about, but we will certainly ask.
We brought it up to BM, not sure if she even believes that we don't have accidents here. She doesn't respond to anything - it's frustrating.
DH is getting fet up with trying to taok to her. I've told him I'm not ready to give up yet ...
I attended a great seminar on Friday for work that included a segment about co-parenting that I'm going to mark up and use for work ... going to send it to BM too, might post some of it here as well.
Thanks for the input ...
~ Katrina
Bedwetting
My STBH son still pees to bed and he is 8. If is really upsetting me because we have a two bedroom house and when he come over he sleeps on the couch. Well i have really expensive furniture and my sofa is completely pissed out. When i asked him why he doesn't get up and use the bathroom he says because you and my daddy didn't wake me up so that i can go to the bathroom. Okay my nephew is 3 1/2 and has been potty trained since he was 14 months and he gets up and night and goes to the bathroom. My STBH says that is a "kidney problem" i told him that he is just lazy. I asked his sister what happens at their mothers house when he pees in the bed she said that he don't because BM spanks him. Well slap my on the butt and say giddey up horsey. I think that she tells him to pee at my house because she is that stupid and vindictive. I am at my wits end. I want some new furniture but it won't do any good if he is still pissing on himself.
If raising children was going to be easy, it never would have started with something called labor!
Update
First, from everything I've read the worst thing you can do to a child that is wetting their pants (or bed) is punish them. There is either something wrong (physically or emotionally), or it is the only thing they can control, so they do it.
Now, update on my situation ... DH dropped SS off at daycare today ... SS says, "this isn't my school anymore." DH just kind of played along with it. DH went to go pay our share of daycare, and director said "oh, you don't owe anything, he's paid up, his last day is June 1st." WHAT!!!??? So, he asks a few questions and apparently BM gave her 2-weeks notice at daycare and is changing him to another one ... long story, but ... suffice it to say ... I think we figured out why SS is wetting his pants every day. He is stressed out aboug being in his 10th daycare in 4 years ... hell I'd be stressed out too.
At least we now have a starting point ... AND ... YES ... we were successful this weekend ... no accidents!!! At least with us ... LOL
Thanks for all the input everyone. The daycare saga now begins ...
~ Katrina