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HELP!! crazy BM and need advice

OverZoey's picture

BM’s BF sent me a message a couple days ago, we have spoken casually over the last 2 years that he has been involved with BM, and he just wanted to let us know that they were no longer together, and that BM was having SD14 lie to us about it.  Who knows why she thought we would care, but we don’t.  He said he had been wanting to talk to my SO to clear some stuff up.  Started asking why my SO would try to come after HIS income in court?  He never did, was never brought up.  Said BM told him that’s why SO took her back to court, I explained it was to get more visitation, nothing about child support.  He said BM told him my SO did not want SD14, and tried to force BM into getting an abortion, and he couldn’t understand why SO wanted more time with a child he never wanted.  I explained to him that was another lie, they in fact were trying to get pregnant for 2 years and were over the moon when it happened.  He then started questioning all kinds of lies BM was telling him.  He, for some reason, is trying to get BM back, and wants to know if my SO and I would consider sitting down and discussing these things?  I’m thinking NOT.  I don’t see where it would help anything and will only cause more stress for me, since I have disengaged, and this would mean I would have to re-engage again.  I feel like this is their child and BM’s BF and I have no say.  He said we need to discuss the fact that BM and daughter are more like a couple than a mother and daughter, and how they need boundaries.  Again, NOPE.  Nothing is going to change this crazy BM, if anything she is going to get worse.  Do you all agree?  Another thing, BF has informed us that SD14 and BM are in constant contact when SD is with her dad, and every little thing is reported back to mom, often twisted to make SD14 look like she’s being mistreated.  Would you just ignore this?  Not allow her electronics at our house?  How would you feel about this?  And how would you handle it?

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Survivingstephell's picture

I'd thank him for the info and keep watch when SD is over.  Last thing you need is that drama.  You might want to ask him why  he wants that bullcrap back in his life??  eyeroll............just congratulate him on his freedom.  LOL  

CLove's picture

Not your monkeys not your circus is a popular comment here, and it applies. I too have a high conflict Toxic Golden uterus BM, and her ex boyfriend is still around here and there. At one time we were in contact due to issues with SD winona and now he has proven himself to be as crazy as BM. 

Do NOT get involved because it will get back to crazy BM. As far as SD14 reporting back to madre, well, have DH discuss that with her. Munchkin SD12 knows that each of our households is a separate entity, we do not inquire (unless necessary) after BMs household and she should not report on our household to BM.

My 2.5 cents

OverZoey's picture

I agree and we have definitely made it clear that we don't want to know what goes on at mom's house, unless she's being hurt.  We have also asked her not to report back to mom everything going on at our house, and when asked, she denies that she told BM anything, which we know isn't true.  It isn't that big of deal, but I feel like I can't be myself in my own home when she's there.

CLove's picture

I can only suggest that you perhaps limit phone time at your house, or limit time around SD14. Hopefully your time with her is already limited if she is in fact reporting back to BM what goes on at your home. That is horrible, but in 4 years you are free of it! JK. That is simply horrible, that feeling that you cannot feel comfortable in your own home, that some crazy BM, is in fact living there with you. I have now blocked crazy Toxic GUBM on my phone since her toxic texts to me a few weeks ago.

StepUltimate's picture

Nothing good can come of meeting with that man. He may even be well-intentioned, but look at it this way: you & DH are not professional therapists seeking pro bono clients. This man hopes his status with the BM changes in his favor, so in the meantime, he is attempting to form an alliance with you to gain insight into the sick BM in order to help himself. If he succeeds in regaining her favor, he 100% HAS TO sell you out and provide the BM with intel, lies, and support in the b.s. he just told you she does.

This guy is a sick game-player, and by sick I mean unhealthy relationship-wise. You owe him nothing, and owe yourself the respect & caution to not get sucked into THEIR drama. You don't have to be rude, you could just reply saying you are not comfortable meeting or discussing his relationship, and encourage him to do some writing or schedule an appointment with a counselor. The fact that he dangled the info-carrot is sick in at least a couple of ways:

1) He offered you intel not because he cares about SD, you, or DH but because he hopes it will serve as currency you'll accept to do him a favor; and

2) If he regains the BM's favor, whatever info he gained from you will be offered up to BM on a platter; a gift that proves his loyalty and gives her fuel to do her sick BM thing. 

momjeans's picture

Look at it this way - This is an unstable, conflicted man. On one hand, he wants to be the bearer of information that exposes BM (and SD), and on the other hand he openly admits he wants BM back. 

This person is nothing to you. He’s drama, she’s drama. Just stick to your half of this co-parenting gig, and quit trying to play friendsies with him or any future boyfriends.