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thinkthrice's picture

Is it appropriate to exchange texts with a former co-worker (opposite sex) that you haven't worked with for 15 yrs?  And said former co-worker has a proven reputation of hopping into bed with all of her co-workers, living with them for about 2-12 months then kicking them out?

This is a woman  now in her mid forties who had a kid on purpose as a single mom, got hooked up with a guy who had a fantastic income then kicked him out and got mega CS even though the guy wasn"t the father (she was artificially inseminated--she hooked up with this guy after the kid was born).  She has never had a relationship longer than a year and she reminds me of my constant attention seeking younger sister.

I have had to call Chef out on texting her in the past as she would instigate baudy texting with him and he didn't willingly put a stop to it.   Of course he thought I was making a mountain out of a molehill.

He doesn't save numbers to contacts on his phone and I do not mess with his phone other than IT stuff that he refuses to do for himself.  So recently it was his bday and sure as shootin'  "Melissa" texts him with an e-bday card.   She has also done a "long time no hear" and "haven't heard from you recently" when he doesn't text her for awhile.  I believe she thinks Chef is a challenge bc he is probably the only man she's been in contact with that hasn't jumped into bed with her, not counting the very few men that she has rejected.

She sends him the latest photos of her kid bc she knows Chef is a "kid" person.

Once early on, Chef saw that a CURRENT male co worker of mine was chatting to me, which was work related, but Chef threw a FIT.  

Double standard?

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Rumplestiltskin's picture

These boundary-challenged guys just seem to have trouble in all areas of their lives, don't they? My SO is like that, too. Many chicks he's worked with or lifted weights next to at the gym act like my SO is their best guy friend in the whole world, and say and text things that seem just a little too familiar. Things most people wouldn't feel comfortable saying to an acquaintance, but it must be the lack of boundaries that fosters that sense of "I can tell him anything!" But they don't realize that he is that way with everyone. You know that feeling when you first meet someone of an instant, intense connection? It's not that you are soul mates. It's lack of normal boundaries. 

Lillywy00's picture

Appropriate or Inappropriate?
 

If you have to ask, then you already know the answer 

Especially if he got mad at you for his same exact behavior. 

halo1998's picture

he needs to block her...not respond and encourage her.  Oy....why o why can they not figure out.  I have to keep illustrating to H...."if I did x y z....how would you feel? "  If the answer is o h3ll NO in regards to me...THEN ITS O H3LL no for you too.  

I mean really what he is getting out of it..other than an ego hit cause someone is texting him.  

 

smh..the double standards are exhausting.

Rumplestiltskin's picture

These no-boundary guys thrive on attention. They also like to feel like a savior while putting forth minimal effort. These flirty text women provide that. It's grossly unattractive to these guys' actual partners. ETA i bet Chef's former coworker uses a lot of emojis. It's a pattern.

Rumplestiltskin's picture

But they are also lazy, so instead of actually saving any 'ho's, they can get a quick dopamine hit over text. Random Text Woman: "I'm sad! (Insert crying emoji.) My boyfriend doesn't appreciate me!" DH: "What?! You're beautiful and any guy would be lucky to have you!" Random Text Woman: "Awwwww!!! You are so sweet!! (Insert heart and smiley emojis.) 

Rags's picture

Sadly, it is a man thing and not unusual.

I went through what I refer to as my rescue project phases.  Thank goodness I did not get papers with any of the projects.  Though it might seem that marrying an 18yo single teen mom when I was 30 fits the rescue project model, that was far from the case.  DW has never needed rescuing. If anything, she rescued me.

My rescue projects tended to be stunningly beautiful and tragically flawed.   One disappeared for about a year.  I found out that she had been in rehab.  She showed up at my work in a beautiful suit with flowers for me.  I was engaged to my XW at that time.  In hind site, I would have been far better off with the tragically flawed rescue project with the nose candy problem than with my serially adulterous XW.

Another one also pulled a disappearing act.  We were enjoying dating, then she was gone. Not a word from her. Ever again.  My younger brother was dating one of her younger twin sisters.  Interestingly she had the same first name as my DW.  When I left an interview after first speaking to the beauty who would bless my life by marrying me, there was a note at the grad placement office desk for me. The admin chased me down outside the door to give me the note.  "Rags, give me a call.  (DW's name and #)."  I thought it was the disappearing rescue project returned to town..  Fortunately, it wasn't. And the rest if continually unfolding history.

 

Lillywy00's picture

These no-boundary guys thrive on attention. They also like to feel like a savior while putting forth minimal effort.
 

THIS!

I feel like this is a "safe" way to get attention from multiple women without shagging the first woman who smiles at them. 
 

They also love pitting women against each other to "fight" over them. 
 

Also if they can't get good attention they'll play these little games to get ANY attention even if it's bad. 
 

So basically they're needing ego-strokes and attention 

Harry's picture

I really hope his good quality are better then his bad qualities,  you have your hands full.  You know the answer, there's something going on. At least in Chefs mind.  This woman must have a lot of time on her hands ..,  You can start by telling him you don't approve of this type of "friendship"   You must also stop this type of interactions if you are even having it .  BUT we are here for the vent 

 

AgedOut's picture

my rule of thumb (in the past not w/ my Mr now) was simple: if you'd do/say/share it in front of my face, it's okay but if you would never be that familiar/flirty/sharing in front of my face then you know it ain't right. 

Dogmom1321's picture

DH has told me (not me snooping) that an ex contacted him on social media. Also from like 15 years ago. He was upfront and just said "_____ messaged me. Just wanted to let you know. She asked about ________ and how ________ was going. I did respond and left it at that." They aren't in contact regularly and he may hear from her every 5ish years? So I wasn't worried. Especially since he wasn't trying to hide it. 

I don't think that's the same at all for your case though. 1. He's hiding it 2. It's already been a problem in the past. He 100% knows what he is doing is inappropriate, bothers you, and it continuing to do it anyways. 

CLove's picture

No, thats very inappropriate.

Ive had issues with husband and women that I know and have introduced him to, lacking boundaries or not respecting boundaries. Its a no-go-zone for me. Husband broke it off with Toxic Troll for her online shenanigans...

Survivingstephell's picture

This is a question that someone being gaslighted asks. You know what the answer is, you don't need to post here for validation.   

Rags's picture

I am in camp ... So what?  If he is a man of character, this is a non issue.  If not, you picked the wrong partner and need to boot his ass out of your life.  As this is repeat behavior, the facts point at the second result.

Black, meet white. No grey.  Particularly on this topic.

My XW had a dating problem our entire engagement and marriage.  As we were divorcing she on multiple occassions commented "We can date you know."  Ummm nope. My response  was always along the lines of "I have been married to you. What makes you think I would want to date you?"  

Just the thought of  "one more hook up" with that skank whore makes my skin crawl. Dating her would make me peel my own skin off.  Oddly, this is not an unusual thing to occur in divorcing or divorced couple sitatuations.  One last romp.

Nea

Chefs periodically sniffing this trolling skank's ass is not something I would tolerate if I were you. So, don't tolerate Chef.

That said. I do have a very close old friend who I speak with periodically.  DW and I have been to their home for celebrations a number of times over the years. She is also a former lover. We don't speak much these days but occassionally she will call or I will call to check in.  She was there during my first marriage and was very supportive during the end of it.  She lost her dad around that same time.  We were each others support.    After my divorce, we became intimate.   

DW loves her to death. She talks more about my DW when we speak than she does about herself or her family.  So do I. They both enjoy giving me shit way too much.  This is one of those "You know it is a problem when it is a problem." things IMHO.  It is either okay and appropriate, or it isn't.

This does not pass your smell test. That, is what matters.

Take care of you.

AlmostGone834's picture

If it bothers you (and it would bother me) then it's inappropriate. Ask him why her feelings(responding to her texts) are more important to him than how you feel? 

That being said, I don't think Chef has any intentions on taking things further, but he probably enjoys the ego boost and you're not wrong to tell him to shut it down. 
 

ETA Reading the comments, I hate to see how many women have to put up with this sort of thing (including me).You're not alone. 

Lillywy00's picture

If you have access to the cell phone account you can simply deactivate his and put him on house phone (and non smart flip phone for super elderly people where they can only access people who are in their contacts) 

"Accidentally" knock his phone in the toilet or put some coconut oil on your hands and let it ever so gently slide down a cliff/out a window/etc  

You said he's not tech savvy and he never saves people's numbers. 
 

*now I'm not married so take this with a grain of salt but a man who is supposed to be my life partner acting unsavory = p*ssy protest
 

Let him scramble. 

StepUltimate's picture

... account, you can also block that 'ho's number. Non-techy Chief will never be the wiser. If he did find out, you could tell him your service includes an anti-scam & anti-'ho auto-block from a national database of verified offender #'s.

Biggrin

Lifer33's picture

She has already sent him inappropriate messages ? I'd be done at that.

And it's not a double standard if you are able to maintain platonic  friendships with members of the opposite sex ,and he can't.