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It all came rushing back....

Trudie's picture

We ran into them. The whole kit and kaboodle. OSD, YSD, BM and company. I gave a sunny smile, waved, and went on my way. That was more than enough interaction for me. If felt like a slap in my face and a punch to my midsection. Ugh!

OSD30s: This one is aboard the struggle train. 3rd generation sponge, she needs a man or family to pay her way. Depression, anxiety, eating disordered, alcoholic, and personality disordered; her intellectual growth appears to have stunted at age12; however, SIL and MIL report issues "out of the womb" and "toddlerhood". (Yet they have painted me the villian because I said "No" to her nonsense. There is no way of making that make sense!) She has been coddled her entire life; can't hold a job, support herself, in and out of treatment 30+ times...her family jokingly says she is "going on vacation", etc. That is a huge part of the problem; her situation is serious, certainly not a joke. The family doesn't talk, but they have excellent sweeping skills...sweep, sweep, sweep. See? All gone! We are perfect! She likes to keep 'daddy' to herself; there was no way she was going to accept any woman in her father's life. Yes, it may have gone better for said woman had she been a door mat. I am not a door mat. She is a mean, hateful liar who goes for the jugular and then twists the story around and blames...you guessed it, me. Projection at it's finest! She was out to personally destroy me before we had ever met and was on a mission to destroy our marriage until my husband went no contact. Yes, DH shut her down from the beginning, but she is nothing if not tenacious. We had tried just about everything to resolve the situation, but it just didn't stop. We really did not know of another alternative. Summary: She's a piece of work; I have never encountered anyone with her degree of dysfunction, her hatefulness, or her ability to tell blatant lies with a smile. It is always me, me, me.

YSD30s: She is socially awkward and has committed a lot of faux pas, which I just overlooked because I thought she just didn't know better. Yes, I realize now how silly I was! I saw her as the 'benign' one in the entire family; recently, after bringing BM to a family celebration, I changed my stance on that. It made me look back over the years at all the little hurts and thoughtless things she had done...they all came rushing back, one by one. It was death by a thousand paper cuts. That selfish decision to bring BM (Who has not been part of the family for 20 years and had never been included before; why now, especially when her father has a wife?) to a family celebration was my 'fatal bleed'. After all, a woman in her 30's should not need her mother to hold her hand, especially at a family celebration. I think back to how I tried to build a relationship with her, the kind and thoughtful things I would do for her; her response was a lack of reciprocity and thoughtless behavior. Yes, DH would talk to her about her faux pas and there was always some flimsy excuse. Her SO is divorced and has kids; she should have some idea of step family dynamics, right? After all, she has never spent a holiday with his ex. Summary: She's the sneaky one...I didn't see it coming!

BM60s: 2nd generation sponge, she needs a man to pay her way. Depression, alcohol abuse, favors "lying in bed all day", and is 'allergic' to good, old fashioned work. I had previously thought that she, too, was 'benign'. That, too, proved to be false, because when she supported OSD's abuse of her father and I by 'liking' ugly posts on social media it became impossible to deny. It really was a genius plan...she could keep her hands 'clean' and have unhinged OSD do the 'dirty work' for her. All the while she was sweet to my face, yet disparaging me behind my back. She would say to my husband, "Oh, I'm so sorry you have been put in this situation." all the while 'egging it on'. (BM, along with DH, contributed to her dysfunction because of the way she was raised!) Yes, DH shut her down too and ended up blocking her. Then she doubled down on the yuck by taking our name back after her last husband divorced her. (Not her maiden name, our name!) Then she moved into the neighborhood our new house is in, hopefully temporarily because she is, once again, sponging. Summary: Sponge who, at best, is a poor excuse for a parent. I'll just stop with that....

Seeing them all together just brought back all the nonsense these three people have inflicted upon our lives. It was not by accident; in retrospect, I can see that most all of it was deliberate. (Except for maybe a few real 'faux pas' by YSD.) I think it hit so hard because I thought YSD was the single person in DH's family that was 'safe' to a small degree. Once again, I feel like an idiot. The realization that, no, she is not safe was it for me. I was formerly done. But now I have a whole new understanding of 'done'. I do not believe there is any going back for how I feel. It will be a whole new spin on being cordial and moving on. It's akin to that last spark of hope being extinguished. 

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MorningMia's picture

I think many of us can completely relate to just about everything you said here. I was talking with someone the other day about a very toxic person (ok, our sister, who very recently did something incredibly horrible to our niece, her daughter) and we both said simultaneously, then repeated, "SHE WILL NEVER CHANGE." 
I repeated that my belief is that we all make mistakes. Mistakes can be forgiven and people can move on. But then there are the people who go beyond mistakes--they have BAD CHARACTERS, repeat bad behavior. Their characters are embedded in them. They will never change. So, yes, we put down the hopium pipe and extinguish that last spark of hope. 

And I did need to hear this based on a communication from SS a few nights ago. Whew. 

Trudie's picture

Most decent people, after making a mistake, apologize and do better. You are right, those with bad character will never change! What? I didn't do that! Trudie attacked me!!! And on, and on, and on. There is no acknowledgement, no ownership, and certainly no change in behavior. I feel like confronting it makes it even worse.

Is there anything you need to share about SS?

Rumplestiltskin's picture

Ugh. I feel you. Some people are so putrid that seeing them makes you physically ill. I guess the only good thing is that you and your DH are on the same page when it comes to dealing with them. 

Trudie's picture

Says my DH. And he really is! He agrees with all I can so clearly see and point out, but he is still smoking that hope-ium pipe! Maybe he just needs to believe? So, yes, we are on the same page but I get weary of his glimmers of hope. Sometimes you just need to call it a day and call a spade a spade....

And yes, his family of origin is putrid (including BM). Yes, it makes me feel crummy to say that; I don't like not liking people. It does not make me feel good. On the flip side, being fake does not make me feel good either so I am going with honesty. Putrid fits. 

Rumplestiltskin's picture

Yes, the Hopium Pipe. That's all well and good, as long as boundaries are kept and the "tokes" are taken sparingly and with caution. I guess. Or is that just what all "addicts" say? And why does it seem like for each puff on the Hopium pipe they take, we have to eat another bite from a shite sandwich? 

Rags's picture

dysfunction. It is manipulation, aggression, calculation, and willful crap.

IMHO the absolutely most effective therapy for so much of the syndrome of the moment shit parenting excusepseudo science industry blatherings and noxious spawn coddling crap is ... accountability and responsibility.  These can and very often do instantly end the syndrome of the moment behavioral bullshit.  Invoking accountability and enforcing it is not easy. The tears, the pearl grasping by the coddlers, the total donning of the robes of victim hood are regularly instant and incessant. Unless.... the quality side makes that process so incredibly painful, embarrassing, and expensive for the perpetrators that they retreat under their slime covered rock at the bottom of their noxious cesspool of genetic effluent.  Even then, the quality side can never relax diligence in applying brutal escalating misery inducing consequences appropriately on the perpetrating spawn and their toxic support network.

Her situation may be no joke, but she is a joke and the shallow and polluted end of her facilitating coddling gene pool is most certainly and repeatedly doomenstrate (wink) to be a joke. They live a joke with tragic results.  Which is incredibly heartbreaking for the quality side of the equation.

Grrrrr!

Call them out. Bare their asses.  Tolerate none of their woe is me poor coddled noxious spawn and related support bullshit.

Ever.

Period. Dot.

Help. But make sure it is absolutely firm, controlled, and intolerant of deviation from accountability, responsibility, and reasonable behavior.

Diablo

Trudie's picture

Call them out, that's why I am so popular! Honestly, I am not worried about being popular or liked with this crowd. I have written them off...ALL except for DH. He is the unicorn here. I will never understand how he is the person he is. 

It is manipulation, aggression, calculation, and willful crap. <-- You are absolutely right! I have lived a life of dysfunction (and manipulation, aggression, calculation, and willful crap)...and clawed my way out. For much of my life, I did not know it was dysfunction...because I knew it to be normal! Sick, I know. Years of therapy have helped me to 'see' clearly. He is new to 'seeing' clearly so I give him grace and understanding. And educate him. And yes, I hold him accountable and responsible for how he responds to their behaviors. I do not give free passes. On the flip side, I do not expect any. That is fair and equitable.

Rags's picture

I have lightly teased my DW for a long time that there is no way she is of her family gene pool.  I point at that she is either a mutant or an alien implant.

I get the look when I tease her about it. A grimace, an eye roll, and the head shake.

I am fortunate to have won the parent lottery on both sides.  Both of my parents were raised by solid parents of their own and blessedly passed their "parenting example tapes" on by raising their boys with structure, standards, and boundaries.

It is interesting how families that are grown under that type of model have incredibly close multi-generational relationships without the drama, multi-generational failure, etc, etc, etc..

Of course there are certainly examples of high quality parents and families that pop an outlier.  A mutant or alien implant does not always go to the positive side of the outcome continuum.

I think part of what made me blind in my first marriage was that the dynamic in my XIL clan and in my first wife was beyond my experience and ability to comprehend.  I had a learning curve before I was able to have my version of my parents' relationship.

My DW was such a mutant that she saw very early that she did not want the life of continuous borderline poverty and victim drama that she saw growing up. My ILs were very hardworking people and certainly not morally bankrupt or mean. But the were toxic.  Their instant gratification and dream focus ruined a chance at a good life and family of quality for 75% of their children.

That my DW as the eldest was also an unwed teen mother adds to the facade of quality that her younger sibs and her parents invest(ed) so heavily in.

That DW is far and away successful, financially secure, globally experienced, and driven feeds their victim and entitlement focus.  She has been told by one her SIL's "Your brothers and sister are intimidated by you.  Your high standards embarrass them because they don't feel that they can live up to them."

She has never flaunted her/our success or demanded any level of performance from anyone in her family other than to behave reasonably.  Something that is a major challenge for all but one of them.  BIL2 is a golden hearted Teddy Bear.  Sadly, he is FIL's failed farming empire fantasy mini-me.  But, he is the only one other than my bride who is happy. In the entire IL clan.  BIL1 is miserable, SIL is miserable, and sadly, even their kids are miserable.  Kids raised by parents who bad mouth anything and anyone from an unfounded superiority complex position rarely find a happy life. Sadly.

BIL2's kids, are going to be happy as can be.  Most likely they will be borderline poverty level laborers, but they will love it, expect nothing from anyone, and work their butts off.