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Red-headed_Stepmom's picture

So, BM requires that BF meets her for lunch every week or she throws a fit. Of course her schedule is what's most important and must be worked around. Since both BF and I are currently looking for jobs, our time doesn't matter ... nor does the cost of gas for the 30 mile drive (one way).

And I just know that he will come home feeling like he's been rolled over by a steam roller, having been told over and over again how he's a bad parent and that he never takes her or his sons into account.

And that is all BS!!!

I understand and support wanting to maintain a friendship with your ex, particularly when there are kids involved, but really, should you maintain more than a cordial relationship when the other person doesn't know how to treat friends? She complains about the fact that she moved to the midwest because of BF 12 years ago, and that's why she has no friends or support system. And every time she pulls that and threatens to move to the Northeast and take the boys, I hold my tongue, I so badly want to point out that the reason she has no friends is because she doesn't treat people well and no one likes her!

We just got the boys back for two days after a five day stretch with her. They are completely off the wall, back talking like I haven't heard in months, tantrums, fighting ... I can't believe that they can fall back to old behaviors so fast! When I picked them up yesterday they spent the first 5-10 minutes telling me all of the neat things Mommy bought them, and I smiled and went "ohh" and "awww" and told them how cool they were, and seethed inside because she hadn't had time to buy SS4 shoes when she lost the newest pair we'd gotten him, she let him go to school for two weeks in crocks!

I absolutely hate that I let this much pressure build up in just a couple hours, I hate that I allow her to have this kind of control over me.

Just needed to vent. Not looking for answers right now.

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GiGi222's picture

(((hugs)))... I know how hard that can be. Any possibility that the whole lunch with BM thing be cut out? I don't see it as totally necessary.

LMR120's picture

Why does your BF go to lunch with his BM? I would not be ok with my BF doing that. Its just a way for her to keep control of the situation and control of him. He is your now not hers. Put a stop to it for both yours and his sanity.

belleboudeuse's picture

Every freaking WEEK???!?!!!!??

Is she CRAZY??????

This is just nuts. Seriously. Plain and simple, nuts.

Here's the answer: your BF needs to learn the word "no."

BB

You are not second best, you are not second class. Do not ever let anyone make you feel that way. - 2BLoved

Wicked.Step.Monster's picture

Agreed..... she MUST be crazy! I mean hello, I like my EH, a lot, but I sure wouldn't want to have a weekly lunch with him, or monthly for that matter! WAY not cool....

MarriedwithChild's picture

Here it goes. If that was me in your case, I would have him packed up moving either to the curb or back in with her.

That's insane and totally unfounded/ needed! OMG

Is that "all" they do during lunch? (I'd wonder...)

Good luck and respect yourself!

stepmom008's picture

Lunch... every week?!? Hell flippin' NO! He needs to set some SERIOUS boundaries with that woman. Why should he have to go to lunch every week to be berated like he's her child. He DOES NOT have to put up with that. Why does he go? Just to shut her up?

"There are two things over which you have complete dominion, authority, and control over - your mind and your mouth".

MarriedwithChild's picture

Haven't they both ever heard of this new thing called....email?!

Set-up an email account for the both of them. Go ahead and do it in advance. THAT should send a "message." ( and do it..."kindly")

DoingItAgain's picture

I'm sorry but BF would be ExBf if he was having lunch every week (let alone EVER!) with BM. No, that would NOT be ok in my book. Doesn't matter the reason... there is no reason. Kids or no kids. I would tell him... "go ahead and go to lunch and you will be coming home to an empty house... have fun hun!"

MarriedwithChild's picture

Is your BF even willing to put his foot down?

That in itself would tell all. If not, lovinglife has a very good example, above!

folkmom's picture

wow. the one time in 2.5 yrs that my BF met BM for a a one on one sit down...was because I encoruaged him to do so about one topic. but every week? i wouldhave flipped my lid and then some!

RustyHalo's picture

Phone, email, text, smoke signals, whatever, BUT lunch every week?!
It's been said on here many times but I will say it AGAIN: Your man needs to grow a pair AND then grow up and stop letting BM treat HIM like HE'S her child.
I couldn't have ANY respect for a man who would continue weekly to go to lunch with a woman just so that she can tell him what a crappy father he is. What MAN does this?

"BM requires.........." Bull effing Shit!

AND who says we have to remain "friends" with the ex? I have enough friends. As long as they have good communication regarding kids - that's all they need. They are the parents of their kids - they don't have to be friends, or even LIKE each other.
If FH had lunch with BM even ONE time, and there wasn't arsenic involved, I would toss him out in a heartbeat.

**my stepdaughters did not grow in my tummy, they grew in my heart**

Mommyto1Stepto2's picture

No way would I tolerate lunch dates! I definitely second the use of email!!

MarriedwithChild's picture

Crayon! Oh man! I didn't think of that one.

Why is it some men can never get enough precious "attention?"

That crap would not flush. Why play tug-a-war over one man? You could have him...

" smoke signals....." Wink

Red-headed_Stepmom's picture

Flat out, I do trust him. I'm not jealous, or even nervous about the aspect of his wanting her attention, or anything more.

The lunches are supposed to be a chance to maintain their friendship and discuss their sons. What it seems to be is a time for her to complain about how everything in her life is unfair, and how everyone treats her poorly. The part that bothers me is that she throws a fit about him not wanting to maintain a friendship if they don't meet weekly ... I know when I was working I had time to get together with my close friends maybe once a month for lunch (if I was lucky!)

And yes, he's just trying to keep the peace. This week I was stressed because I knew that there were going to be some hot topics discussed, like how she treated me, last week, about the birthday party that SS4 was invited to. As well as teacher conferences, etc. And my stress was because I hate to see him come home so beat down!

I have suggested other forms of communication for things pertaining to the boys. BF set up a yahoo group so we could all post information in one place and to use it as a communication tool and organizer. He and I are the only ones that use it, unless he specifically tells her, "you need to send that to the group". We all work (or did work) in the computer industry, she has a laptop, desktop and blackberry at home, it's not like it's something foreign or difficult for us to use.

Anyway, it does feel good to know that it's not strange for me to feel it's odd. Thanks for the feedback.

belleboudeuse's picture

Two thoughts:

First, what they are doing is not "maintaining a friendship." Friends treat each other with respect and enjoy one another's company. This is not what is happening -- she is using that phrase to mask that what she is really doing is berating your BF and using that time to complain about you and keep him under her thumb.

Second, the idea of "keeping the peace" by following her wishes is a myth. Ask anyone on this site that actually has a SUCCESSFUL relationship with their spouse, despite attempts by the ex to interfere, and they will tell you so. The way to keep the peace is by establishing boundaries. There is no need for these people to be "friends." What they need to be is functioning colleagues in the business of raising their child. Your BF's claim that he is only trying to "keep the peace" sounds pretty, but what he is really doing is maintaining a situation in which the BM is in control of him. This prevents him from completely detaching from her, and attaching to you. This is something that she is doing on purpose. That is why she pitches a fit if he tries not to meet every week. She wants to maintain control of him. If she had moved on from the relationship, she would have no desire to meet with him like this.

The thing is, your BF needs to grow a pair and say no. I'm sure he thinks that caving to her is the path of least resistance. But what it really is is the coward's way out. And it will not allow the two of you to have a successful relationship unhindered by her input and constant presence in your lives. 63% of remarriages end in divorce. Why? Because the parties involved have not successfully put in place the necessary boundaries and moved on from their last marriages.

Your BF needs to get to a place where he isn't afraid of her anymore. You say that she "throws a fit" if he doesn't meet with her every week. So what? What's the worst thing that could happen if she throws a fit? If he's not around for it (i.e., doesn't respond to her phone calls about it, or her texts) then it's like a tree falling in a forest when no one is around -- it's just silence to you if you aren't there for it. Is he afraid she will keep his child from him? Well, that's what custody orders are for. If she denies him visitation, he can take her to court.

Look. The bottom line is, he is being treated the way he is allowing himself to be treated. And by extension, you and your relationship are being treated the way he is allowing them to be treated. Your DH needs to learn to set and maintain boundaries. For the sake of YOUR relationship, he needs to learn to play hard ball. She is operating on the assumption that as long as she holds the threat of a tantrum over him, he will be too weak to stand up for himself and for you. He needs to decide once and for all that that's not the case. He's a big boy. He should be able to do this. And you're a big girl. You should be able to expect better from the man in your life.

For the record, your BF was my DH three years ago. BM had the same control over him, in the guise of being "friends." Once he put his foot down and stopped letting her define the terms, she freaked out for a month or two, but when she realized that he wasn't going to back down, she calmed down. And once HE realized that all he had had to do all along was to grow a pair and stop letting her run his life, he was so thrilled that he never looked back. We have been happily married for a year and a half, and I can honestly say that BM has no power over him anymore.

BB

You are not second best, you are not second class. Do not ever let anyone make you feel that way. - 2BLoved

stepmom2one's picture

every week? that is so stupid. In 7 yrs. BM and H had lunch 1x. About 6 yrs ago! They talk to each other when they have to--text or call.

There is no reason for this meeting. Let her throw a fit if she wants, so what. And who cares what she thinks of him as a father...she picked him.