Co-parenting....
Co-parenting... otherwise known as being BMs slave.
My Dh, oh what a man, has found this new stance in which he wants us (yes us) to deal with BM and her family. I have no idea where this came from, maybe its his insecurities about his role in his daughter's life or maybe he's just giving up.
Anyways, I brought up Easter last night. I wanted to know if we were going to do something for Easter even though it is not our weekend with SD. Dh says that he wants to stop this double holidays thing. SD is being spoiled and is starting to expect gifts everytime she sees us. I was shocked!!! I completely agree! The double holiday thing has always bothered me. It takes away from the magic that the holidays are supposed to bring. I was so excited that Dh agreed with my opinion without me having to state it....
Then he kept talking...
So he wants us to become more friendly with BM so we can visit with SD during the holidays at her mom's house, and participate in family things like that. OMFG... really?? :-S In what alternate universe do we have that type of relationship with Bm and her family? I think this man is hoping to get me a nice white jacket that ties in the back by Xmas. So shocked... I kinda agreed to the idea. Thetis- Maybe we can send some gifts over! Or call and let her know we are thinking about her.
Dh- And eventually we can drop in for a visit to give her the gifts.
Thetis- .... *gag*
Here's my problem. I see the good points in this idea. Dh is not an idiot (all the time) and I know why he would want to behave this way. However I can see alot of cons to this idea as well. So here's my list!
Pro:
Sd will no longer have to deal with the complicated feelings that arise in children when their parents just do not like eachother.
Sd will not become the Brat she was heading towards, expecting gifts everytime she sees us.
I will no longer have to plan all these things
I will no longer have to clean up after all these things
Bms family may accept me as part of their grand-daughters life.
Cons:
Sd will learn that it is better to ignore differences then to accept and respect the differences between some people.
Sd may get the idea that her parents will get back together or live together again.
I would have to interact with BMs family, who believe that as a Step Parent I have no right to even be around SD, even though the grandpa is a step father to BM
I would be expected to eat things prepared in their pig sty (Bm literally has a pet pig, who SD has said bites.)
I would be expected to bring my child (due in July) into a house I don't feel is clean enough for me to be in let alone a small child.
My child would have to share these important days with people who are not his/her family and who do not think he/she should even be.
My family, who SD loves alot, would not be invited to these get togethers. Or if they are they will have to deal with being "second rate" family, even though they share as much blood with this child as the BMs "Dad"
I can go on forever, and if I can't get access to the site soon I might (I'm writing this on a word doc because my comp wont let me access step talk right now). I want to know if I am being crazy, or if you all could add to my list. I want arguements from both sides, and testimony if anyone has tired this before. Remember though, there is a past between me and BM. I have a deep rooted hatred for her that I will be soon seeking help to deal with.
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"So he wants us to become
"So he wants us to become more friendly with BM so we can visit with SD during the holidays at her mom's house, and participate in family things like that."
I'd tell him, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, ease up their partner". LOL... You can be civil, you can truly co-parent if the other parent is not a certifiable nutjob, but there still needs to be BOUNDARIES. You have your family and BM has hers, same goes with holidays etc. Now I can see a graduation party being held in one of the parents' homes, with the other parent in attendance, because that's a major milestone but the rest? I don't think so. I think for everyone's sanity and mental health, what he's proposing, though well intentioned, isn't something I'd go for.
For sure, I think I actually
For sure, I think I actually replied with something like "Lets go for baby steps at first, what you're suggesting is like a marathon!"
well that sucks for YOU.
well that sucks for YOU. BMs family is not your family. i think it is bad enough when i alternate family holidays to the inlaws...never mind spending a nice holiday with a complete strangers family!
But at the same time I am
But at the same time I am made to feel like I am cheating SD out of something. idk We need a step parent guru out there to answer all our questions and tell us whats right and wrong!
There are some good articles
There are some good articles and answers to FAQs on http://www.bonusfamilies.com regarding these things like boundaries etc.
I found that site a few
I found that site a few months back...it really has some great tips. It takes a mutual mindset to really make it happen. All must be true grown-ups because the concepts. I think its a lot more difficult to achieve when the trust has already been broken down. No one will budge from their perverbial turf. The mutual feeling of being too risky.
I like the Bonus Teen Corner....I think that's what its called. And Divorce Etiquette.
That's exactly it, it takes
That's exactly it, it takes a mutual mindset to really make it happen. We couldn't get our BM to read it solely because WE suggested it and she's a self proclaimed know it all on this stuff. We gave up trying and just do the best we can by the kids, and with the situation.
That site is amazing btw. I
That site is amazing btw. I really hope this can help me. I know I have been part of the problem in the past, but it is soo hard for me to trust anyone. ESPECAILLY her. (I can't remember if I wrote out my story on here before but its a crazy one!)
My jaw just dropped straight
My jaw just dropped straight to the keyboard. WOW! Those are some lofty ambitions. I would probably have thrown up on my DH if he told me such things, not only because we would be SO uncomfortable in the situation, but because...they (BM and her family) all hate our guts for whatever their reasons are. I can only imagine the snide comments and dirty looks.
Has BM given any indication that this would ever be something in the realm of possiblity?
I think that if BM was not
I think that if BM was not living with her mom, dad and two sisters then this could be a possiblity but since she is planning on living with them for awhile I can't even imagine it. We have more problems with her parents then her, even though its her choices that get us in the most trouble. She is alot easier to get along with then her parents. But there is no way they would think about leaving so we could visit. It is their house!!
I dont care how you weigh
I dont care how you weigh it, that would be a "Hell No" at our house. Weather with my kids BM or the steps with their BD. We will never let the holidays mix. School things and big events in the kids lives like sports, weddings and such, thats a different story. And when they grow up we won't mind visiting their homes with the ex's in attendance.
But having my ex or my wifes ex in our home for the holidays is a no-way.
I have a real gripe with all these men pandering to their ex-wives. It is a disrespect to their new and loving dear wife, whoever you may be. You ladies need to make them realise YOU are their wife and must ALWAYS come first.
Good luck to you all and have a happy valentines day.
"Love is harmony and harmony is the vibration of the music that binds the universe."
AMEN! You rock.
AMEN! You rock.
Big HELL NO here too!
Big HELL NO here too! Wingnut will never be welcome in my home. She is nosey and condescending and I don't need her "opinions" on my house. the place was friggin' dump when I moved in (after she moved out) but I know she'd comment all the same. The less time I spend with that witch the better. And her parents? HELL HELL NO! I had to sit with her mother once while dh and Wingnut were in a co-parent session (because Wingnut "forgot" to tell dh her parents were coming and I didn't need to leave work 3 hours early to do her a favor). All she did was complain about how the "divorce" was causing her stress-related health problems. Here's a clue, dumbass, if you raised your daughter with some independence this divorce wouldn't be taking a toll on you.
"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy" and you can't change crazy!!
My Dh is going to be forced
My Dh is going to be forced to read this. Thank you. It is great to hear from the other team!!! He's really confused any trying to do the right thing, and me being pregnant is not helping him find that. I'm so over the top hormonal its insane. So I'm trying to really think about things before I pass judgement on them. I could just be upset at the time, then fine later. Thanks again for your post!
i would have packed dh a
i would have packed dh a suit case got him in the car and driven him straight to rehab....because if he ever told me this surly hed be on drugs! lol, but seriously.
i can see where getting along is good for kids...when its not forced or fake, but spending holidays together, i have NEVER herd of that. my mom and SF were always friends with my dad, but never did we do this, and if we had it would have been just WEIRD to say the least. There is absolutely no reason for you and bd to spend the holidays with bm and family.....i can see dropping by saying hello and maybe handing one gift to sd, watch her open it and then leave...but even that is a far stretch, i would say dh could do that alone if you didn't mind. I would just scale back what you do give her when you see her. dh and i have ss every other year on his actual bday, and then we either have him the weekend before or after..because we have 50/50. we decided that we would only do something besides going out for pizza every other year, and only big bdays..like 5, will be big paties with a jumper etc. this way ss doesnt think we are going to give him the moon and stars ever time.
im not sure what custody you guys have...but besides bday and xmas, what other holidays are you giving gifts for? why is it everytime she is getting something, i would think its ony twice a year, or three times if you give ester stuff.
to me it seems that dh needs to be content with celebrating with you and your family unit at your home, and be happy for the times that sd is there to share it with you, not try to over compensate...if sd thinks she can get dh to spend holidays with bm, what else would she think she could pull?
I'm sorry but the entire
I'm sorry but the entire world does not and should not revolve around SD. these things need to be family centered and not child centered. I personally think it would be REALLY confusing for her to have both sets of parents together for all holidays. I think things need to be seperate but controlled. If each house works together say, on Christmas, & they come up with a list of things to give and split it right down the middle, that would cut down on a lot of the spoilage instead of having 2 full crazy Christmases at each house.
"There are two things over which you have complete dominion, authority, and control over - your mind and your mouth".
Ask DH if he'd like to spend
Ask DH if he'd like to spend the holidays with your ex boyfriend. You guys can talk about old times, look at old snapshots, hang out with his parents... hey, remember that time behind the bike sheds?!?!
lol Great idea!
lol Great idea!
Bottomline is it takes
Bottomline is it takes EVERYONE(not yelling) to be comfortable in order to make the co-parenting thing happen especially blended holidays.
My XH's family combines all the exes, second spouses, and skids together. Mind you their all grown ups except for the grandkids. It works for them.
I'd prefer the co-parenting concept to branch into other categories of my life like raising (s)kids; the mindset of really appreciating what we all do for each other in doing so.
I'm reading that Bonusfamily
I'm reading that Bonusfamily link that was posted on this blog and it is helping alot. BMs little visit last night has given me hope. Really we've had a past, but I'm hurt about how she has tried to hurt us and allowed people to hurt us. She used to look at me like a role model of sorts, I was one of her older sister's bestfriends. I used to see her as a little sister. If we can agree it ignore, and try to get over the things in the past I think we'd have fun working together. We used to have fun hanging out together. Now dh... thats a different story... he really does not like her. (Funny what guys will decide to "poke" anyways eh?)