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justmakingthebest's picture

Ok, so many of you know about the cruise we booked for SS's spring break time period- of course this was just a few short weeks before he totally decided he hated us and stopped talking to us for no reason other than some serious PAS. 

We have the final payment to make in 14 days. Up until that time we can still make changes- edit the name, cancel his ticket, change the dates to be my kids spring break-- HOWEVER, there is now a hefty fee to change the dates, so I am not sure that is in our best interest, it really wouldn't save us but like $100 and for that I feel like we should just roll the dice and play it out. I called the cruise line to discuss the insurance plan with them one last time. Originally they said that we could get 75% of his fares back if SS wasn't put on a plane (Cruise and Flight) however, after this discussion that is not exactly the case. It would be a credit for a future cruise. Which could be a good excuse for a little get away for just me and DH- so not a total loss but it wouldn't include the cost of the flight which we would have to book at the time of the final payment. If he doesn't show it is just a loss.

DH is talking to the GAL today. He is going to bring all of this up and tell the GAL that we HAVE to know what to do about this trip. If SS doesn't get put on a plane to us, we will be out massive amounts of $. When we booked it he was excited. He already picked out his shore excursion (4 stops, 4 kids- they each get one pick).

If we change the name and bring someone else, we are essentially "rejecting" time with SS. That will totally be flipped on us in court. Even though he stated he didn't want to come. 

This is such a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. On one hand we roll the dice, a pissy teenager shows up and realizes how much he actually misses his father and we all reconnect and have a great time-- I feel like this could actually happen. Up until the end of September SS was a totally different kid. I think he could still come back to us and be his old self.

He could also not show up at all and we are just out everything even if the GAL says that we should keep it and he is recommending that SS go with us. 

The GAL could say that he can't tell us what to do yet, it is too early. Hell, we might not even have his report before March when we go- therefore the current order stands and SS should have to be on a plane to us. 

He could also show up and make us all miserable. Luckily with this scenario I have no problems ditching the kid and hanging out with my bios and SS18 and letting DH deal with it- I will still have a fabulous time in the sun with the mojitos flowing! 

I don't know what to do. I just want to puke. This was supposed to be such a fun thing for us to all do as a family. It is getting to the point where I am not even excited to tell my kids. I have these goofy presents for them to open together- A giant sombrero, a plush dolphin toy, and toddler boat bath toy- They have to put the clues together. They will be so excited!! I just want the rest of them to have a great trip. DH too... He works so hard and is such a great dad and stepdad and husband. He deserves to have a great time.

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Major Blunder's picture

I wish I had some words that would calm your mind and heart, the best I can offer is if you're gonna puke I'll hold your hair for ya  Bad

justmakingthebest's picture

You are the best!

Major Blunder's picture

Done it many a times in college. I was always that guy that would make sure nothing happened to a young lady that had to much to drink, I spent alot of time in the friend zone  lol  But I had sisters and even though neither of them drank I would want someone to do the same for them if they had.

amyburemt's picture

a mother!! you are right, youre damned if you do and damned if you don't. Until they start actually punishing PAS , we are screwed!

justmakingthebest's picture

Yeah... How do we make that happen? Can all of us Step-talkers petition Congress or something??

thinkthrice's picture

Nothing will be done about it.   too many people making lots of money...the courts, the lawyers, the government.

ProbablyAlreadyInsane's picture

You got this! I know it's frustrating...

Talk to the GAL. Honestly I'd keep the ticket... Even if he doesn't come. BM may be ordered to pay back for refusing vistiation (also maybe not). As you said the credit is a good excuse for you and your DH to get away. AND it'll look good on paper.

Best wishes! I'm so sorry you're dealing with this crap!

justmakingthebest's picture

Thank you!

I hate have to "look good on paper"- this is such a stupid game. Why can't we just BE a good family. Why can't we just have this time together without drama?? My ex and I do it for our kids, it isn't that hard!

ProbablyAlreadyInsane's picture

Because you and your ex are sane. Your DH's ex though, she's psychotic, sh'es selfish, and she doesn't give two rat's a$$es on how it might affect her kid. You and your ex do it because you recognize that it's in the best interest of your children.

I really wish that I could magically fix it and make it easier for you to be a good family. But the fact of the matter is. So long as Bm wants to put up irrationally stupid walls, she's going to continue to do it. She likes the drama, she likes the control, and it sucks for everyone else, including the kid she claims to love.

But you got this! I know it sucks! It's all just this massively pain in the neck game. But you're rocking it!!!

thinkthrice's picture

The system automatically favors the BM even if she is the worst piece of scum on Earth.

tog redux's picture

My guess is that if he does turn up, he will go back to himself quickly (my SS always does - he came over for 2 hours after a year of alienation and told DH he loved him in that time frame).  However, my prediction is that he will NOT show up at all and you guys will have to eat the cost of his bunk on the cruise.

I'm sorry, I'm well acquainted with how awful all of this is.  My SS consistently reverted back to himself very quickly but can't stand up to the heat when with BM.

justmakingthebest's picture

Yup... easy to "stand up" to dad- Dad always loves him, dad is unconditional. BM... that is a crazy B and he isn't going to do anything other than play puppet with her.

tog redux's picture

It's also about having a secure attachment with his father, but not with his mother. My SS is very much like yours.

Harry's picture

If he doesn’t want to go.  He is going to make it totally miserable for all of you.  Those cabins are really small, having to sleep, get dress, eat and do trips with someone who doenot want to be there is going to be major drama .  Go by yourselves and enjoy the cruise have lots of fun and doing new exciting things.  Deal with SS after your good time.  At this point him going on the cruise is for him to cause trouble for all of you.  You have to deal with this is never going to get better 

Ispofacto's picture

I don't see how it could look bad for you to go without him after he stated he wouldn't go.

 

Cover1W's picture

This is why DH and I didn't book a trip to Europe to visit his family this fall, SD14.

And why he's going to have a HARD decision to make about the trip this spring...he's getting the guilts for not including SD15 (she'll be 15 then) on the planning.  But I am not paying ONE CENT for her or for any cancellations.