I Left A Month ago but I am struggling emotionally..Holidays
I officially moved out a month ago, after being in an 8 year long term committed relationship. He often asked me to marry him in the earlier years but I always declined because I had already been married once before for 12 years. I knew first hand how things can change and deteriorate over time despite your best efforts. So marriage means nothing to me but a piece of paper. Fortunately or unfortunately, I was right again. Even if I had married him, I am sure nothing would have been any different regarding the situation with the adult skids. I don't want to repeat my original post, you can find it if you want to read the details. But to sum it up..SD32 and her 40 year old husband and baby came to live with us to save money for a house. It has been a year and no house is good enough for princess and they can certainly afford one. They have paid ZERO for the last year...Daddy thinks it is his duty to care for his daughters family too because that is what families do and that is how they lived back in the day...WTF right ? He would love for them to live with him indefinately and it may end up being so because he has been looking at bigger houses to move into. He tried to manipulate my mind by telling me I am not a family person or care for his daughter because I did not want them living with us, even though I helped raise his younger daughter ( who basically ignores me) from 13 to 21 without ever complaining....and got no appreciaion.
Here is where it gets complicated...We work together. We built a good business over the course of the relationship and that is how I make my money and could afford to leave him. Plus I love my job. It is tough to see him almost daily and I try to keep it professional but sometimes my tongue slips and I have to get my digs in. Like I called him a 'crutch' for his daughters the other day and he blew up and said...he is doing what is right by him, right by his daughters and right by GOD. I almost laughed about the GOD part, as I have never seen him step foot in a church..lol. I guess forget doing right by the woman you said you loved so much and would care for forever....We have tried to still have some sort of romantic relationship living apart but it is not going very well mostly because I am so resentful, hurt, and angry inside. I tell him my feelings and he just says it was my decision to leave and he will never change his mind about caring for his ADULT daughters + their family, it is his duty as a father. This is blatant disrepect to me with not giving a shit about how I feel. Plus I just think it is just plain F$%KED UP. Every Christmas Eve there is a big gathering/yankee swap with his entire family...siblings, neices, nephews, cousins ect and I am supposed to go. I really like his entire family but this will be the first time I will have to see his skids since I left and I don't want to see their faces. So I am thinking of just staying home alone with my dogs. I am just feeling so sad and keep breaking out into tears on and off... I just want the holidays to be over.
You sound so confused to me.
You sound so confused to me. Do you want to be in a relationship with this man, or not? Sounds like his "doing right by his daughter" is non-negotiable. (I call it enabling and he's crippling her in the long run, but if he wants to call it "doing right," ok.)
If you can't tolerate his enabling behavior, then cut off the relationship entirely. No trying to maintain a romantic connection. A professional relationship at work will be hard enough, but that's probably doable if you like what you do.
If you think you CAN tolerate his behavior toward his daughter, then you have to find a way to let go of the anger. Individual counseling first, couples counseling after that (or in conjunction with). He is not taking your feelings into consideration AT ALL, it seems to me. Think about why you even want to be with a guy like that.
Personally, I would not go to the family gathering until you can get sorted out what you want to do. Stop sending mixed messages, and stop tolerating HIS mixes messages.
I'm sorry this is so hard, especially at this time of the year. Take care of yourself first and foremost.
Thank you for your reply. I
Thank you for your reply. I thought maybe we could still maintain a romantic relationship of some sort but live apart. But so far not so good...I think he is also resentful I left and 'not a family person' so he has said many times to me now...so hurtful after all I did to help raise the younger daughter without ever complaining...:( I feel like I have been punched in the stomach really.
Same boat
Yikes we are in the same boat. Also in a 20 year relationship with a man who has an adult child (aka albatross) and we own a business together. Same story line, we have to help unemployed stoner 30 yo SS because that is what families do.... yadi, yada. What I always wondered if DH ever gave a rat's tail how enabling his adult child was a fair deal to me? It sounds like your significant other thinks that it is equitable for you to have to share the burden of supporting his adult child and her family too. Did you ever discuss this subject with him? Why would it be a fair deal for DH to ask me to bail SS out of jail, buy him a replacement car (the last one was totaled in 4 months), pay his utilities (he spent the money his mother sent him for something else), buy his groceries (he doesn't have a job and he ain't looking either) and wait for it..... buy him $150 worth of weed from the local dispensary. WTH is going on in an otherwise intelligent persons brain when they summarize this in their mind???
How are you guys together
How are you guys together when at work? Are you able to maintain the professionalism without losing it over personal problems? Fortunately, I am not asked to pay for anything for them..that is just plain NUTS....Are you still living with this man? I discussed the situation with mine a million times over and have beaten a dead horse once to many times. He will not budge..grown daughters come first and it will always be his #1 priority and responsibility. I am sick over it
"Doing right by his adult
"Doing right by his adult daughters"?? At the expense of his marriage. FFS. I just can't even with some of these men. I hope he's happy when he's single and living with his daughter and her family, because no other woman will touch him with a ten foot pole.
Thank you for your reply. We
Thank you for your reply. We have lived together 8 years although never married which was my decision, having already been there done that. Thank God because I know this situation would be no diffferent even if we had married. And I agree what woman would want to enter into an existing situation like that !
That is how it was
That is how it was done back in the day? Uhm, no. Extended family did not live together with the parent working and paying for everything with the rest sponging off of them. Extended family lived together with all adults working either outside the home to bring in money which was pooled for the common good or inside the home caring for children and keeping the home running efficiently. Everyone had a purpose and no one had a free ride. You are well out of that dysfunctional view of how things used to be!
And I agree that splitting the business may be in order. You may have to get an attorney involved for that to happen fairly. There are many who specialize in business valuation and separation. You may be better off making alternate holiday plans. Being over there really sounds awkward and uncomfortable. A peaceful day alone, even if it is lonely, sounds better than what could be weird at best and openly hostile at worst.
When in doubt...don't.
I would take things one step at a time. First, don't go to the holiday gathering. It's not worth enduring. IMO, you would be much better off doing something with friends, family or even strangers!
For example, there are many nursing home residents who don't get any visitors during the holidays. See if it's not too late where you can volunteer at one of them - most of the time they welcome it! Or another option is a local "Meal on Wheels" where you could deliver the day's meals (and some holiday cheer) to seniors who are living at home but have limited mobility.
Do good where you can, and it will make you feel better. Then you can make a better assessment about your own life and decide how to place your feet moving forward.
thank you. great advice
thank you. great advice
thank you. great advice
thank you. great advice
The holidays are tough. But
The holidays are tough. But it gets easier! The romantic relationship can’t work where there is so much resentment and anger. BTDT - finally had to admit to myself that it can’t happen. It’s unhealthy, self-neglecting, and damn near impossible to share your body with someone who betrayed you...and that will also contribute to your anger and resentment. It’s like you’re giving yet another piece of yourself to someone who didn’t take care of your heart the first go round. Don’t take as long as I did to realize the folly of it. Ignore the holidays! Find some awesome old comedies on Netflix or Hulu, or dig into some mindless mystery novels and enjoy some me time. You’ll survive and it will be over before you know it. (((Hugs)))
Thank you :) I just want it
Thank you :) I just want it to be 2019 already...
Dup
Dup
"Thou shalt enable thy
"Thou shalt enable thy children for all of thy days, thus sayeth the Lord"...is not found anywhere in any scriptures. In fact a married couple is supposed to LEAVE their mother and father and cleave unto each other according to Christian doctrine. Daughter is not supposed to cleave to her father but to her husband!
There are cultures that live intergenerationally but usually the wife moves into the husbands family home and takes a place of servitude under her new MIL. Women are generally still viewed as property in most places around the world, thus the tradition of taking of our husbands name.
thank you for that
thank you for that
So you are separated with benefits
Therefore, the only one suffering is you. You have got to cut off the benefits if you are unhappy with how things are going you know? If he is looking for a larger house, there is your sign what he wants.
My DH is just like yours. "Our children are always welcome back." SS moved back a year and a half totally supported with no chores or job. We provided totally, DH even gave him cash for food when we went somewhere for dinner alone! He was 24 for heaven's sake! DH started feeling the ultimatum coming from me and made him move on. Now he seems happy with his studio apartment and job and I am sooo relieved but cautious it will last. If I were you I'd take another step back and no gifts or contact with SO over the holidays at all. Take time to pamper yourself and decide what and who you want to live with.
Thank you for your reply.. I
Thank you for your reply.. I am glad your DH loved you enough to make the right decision