I have to say this...
And I know I'll get flamed for this...
If any sm or anyone "let loose" on my kids by telling them my town is lousy and people in their town don't behave well in my town, slapped/hit my kid, put No Bite on their nails, etc., if they thought I was a nightmare before, they'd be shown what a REAL nightmare is.
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Is this something you
Is this something you genuinely need to worry about? Or are you "just sayin'"?
It's not anything I need to
It's not anything I need to worry about, but I think those who do these things are just unleashing a whole new level of crazy from the bm.
what is "no bite"?
what is "no bite"?
It's similar to a nail polish
It's similar to a nail polish that is supposed to deter nail biting.
I don't see what's so bad
I don't see what's so bad about it. It's actually used to HELP with nail-biting. And it's supposed to taste bad, hence the NO BITING of the nails
Never heard of No Bite but
Never heard of No Bite but yeah I don't understand that either.
Isn't it better than skids eating their nails with all that dirt & germs hidden under their nails?
Yeah I mean we spray bitter
Yeah I mean we spray bitter apple spray on puppies paws to stop them from starting the weird paw licking/chewing habit. Especially when you live in a big city, last thing you want is to have a brand new puppy getting sick because it's licking stuff transferred from urban pavements.
Maybe I'm not getting it but sounds like it's a nice preventative...like hand soap.
Oh F*ck me, now BM is gonna
Oh F*ck me, now BM is gonna come after me for trying to stop her kid biting her nails??????
sheeeeeshhhh as if I didn't have enough to deal with - now No Bite is a problem?
I put it on my own dd, and if SD asks for it too what should I say? Sorry, your mama thinks it's child abuse?
what a joke.
It's another reason why it's
It's another reason why it's good to disengage from the skids. The less I'm involved the less Uberskank complains.
Agreed!
Agreed!
Wow. You sound EXACTLY like
Wow. You sound EXACTLY like our BM, it's scary :O
But seriously, it's a 2-way street. Teach your kids to respect us (as adults) and everything will be good. It's exactly that attitude that makes us react the way we do - we don't wake up WANTING to think badly about these kids, but sometimes we have no choice. Posting what you posted only proves us right.
BMs can get way too vindictive. Instead of going out of your way to make our lives a "living nightmare", why don't you focus on your kids and what they're learning from you? My skids are acting more and more like their mother every day, and it's only because she's teaching them that it's ok to act immature and foolish and selfish and greedy and vindictive. The more "good" we try to teach them, she teaches them twice as much "bad" - just to spite us. Now, tell me, what good will that do when her son is in prison later on in life? Just to spite us? SMH
Ever heard of disengaging?
Ever heard of disengaging?
It's hard to disengage
It's hard to disengage completely when the skid's behavior is starting to affect how your bio acts.
That's only an issue if the
That's only an issue if the other kids are followers
I remember my mom telling my sister and I she didn't give a damn how other kids behaved (classmates, cousins, stepsibs...)she would wear our butts out if we tried to do what we say them doing.
What's the point? Then I'll
What's the point? Then I'll be accused of "not caring". I'm damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't. Plus, I have our BS6 to worry about as well - and I'll be damned if he learns how to act the way SS11 and SD9 act! So SMs who are also BMs have DOUBLE the duty and we STILL get crapped on! And none of this "you knew what you were getting involved with" bull!
That's the biggest thing I
That's the biggest thing I worry about with SS13. He's with us full time and I don't like it when he treats me bad or when he and DH get into it because it effects my children.
I try to use it as a teachable moment with my kids as much as I can, but it is what it is.
For example, when DH is up in SS's room yelling and SS is yelling back, my kids look to me for reassurance as we do not interact that way and that's not the way their father interacts with them either. I just let them know that DH is upset and he's not using his best parenting skills right now because he's mad. I'll say that sometimes adults make bad choices and that they really are no longer addressing the issue.
My kids get it, but its still never easy for them.
Uberskank accused me of being
Uberskank accused me of being an uncaring and horrible SM in court. DH's kid told me I was an unfeeling bitch and she's glad I've never had kids. His kid's counselor told me she didn't know if my marriage would sustain my disengaging from DHs kid.
You know what? I don't give a flying f**k what Uberskank thinks of me. I don't give a flying f**k what his kid thinks of me. And I flat out told the counselor that either I disengage or I divorce DH because the situation was intolerable.
So between divorce or being called uncaring, I chose uncaring.
Shaman, this is exactly it.
Shaman, this is exactly it. It means nothing to me what skids and/or BM think. I don't live my life to appease their feefees. I did not get married to be a SM. Far from it.
I can say that in a "moment",
I can say that in a "moment", I've said some unkind things to SS13 about his mother that he shouldn't have had to hear (though it was all very true).
Maybe I was just having a "bad day". (LOL)
But seriously, I can understand when enough is enough and nothing else is working. Sometimes words slip out that shouldn't.
The no bite thing had me thinking... and I wondered if I'd do that to my own daughter if nothing else i was trying wasn't working. But I don't think I would have done it in her sleep, I would have discussed it with her and let her know what I was putting on her nails and why. That way each time she bit them, she'd think of me and what habit that we were trying to break.
Regarding the hitting, if my child was totally out of line then I could maybe see it and excuse it. But it also would totally depend on my relationship with SM, SM's relationship with DD and DD's general behavior/personality/etc.
Funny, but somehow BMs can
Funny, but somehow BMs can actually do EXACTLY the same with their kids and put down where their ex lives, etc. and it's no abusive or mean...it's just a fact of life...hmmm
OK, honestly, I would never say that to a kid...heck, I didn't have to...the skid realized it ALL ON HER OWN...I remember her words "why aren't there policemen around here all the time like where I live?" lol priceless...
If her own father doesn't
If her own father doesn't give a damn about it, why do you?
Wish, you wanna hear
Wish, you wanna hear something that is going to make you think that your sd is just fine?
SD13 (next month) still full on sucks her thumb. And BM sees nothing wrong with it, "it's cute!"
Mind you, BM also sees nothing wrong with telling her kid that "daddy left her to be with his whore (that's me in case you can't guess) and that daddy won't love her anymore because he has new daughters now!"
Any wonder the kid is screwed up!!!
And OH? Typical ostrich who can't accept is precious princess is NOT actually coping. And if *I* try and get him to wake up and smell the coffee and actually HELP the kid? *I* am the bad guy and I hate her (in his words)
FML
LOL - been a bad weekend, 5
LOL - been a bad weekend, 5 days of it, and I am getting it ALL out of my system today :sick:
Here is the problem though.
Here is the problem though. Your not the kid's only parent.
If dad is ok with the step mom disciplining the child and state law allows in parent locum (one acting as a parent or in a parental position of authority) to dole out a physical punishment. It doesn't matter what the mom wants, as mom cannot control what goes on at dads house.
If dad is ok with no bite. It gets used at his house. Does not matter if he paints it on the kids nails, if step mom paints it on, or if he hands it to the kid to paint it on. His house, his rules. (never used it, now am curious as both sd's have HORRIBLE nail biting to the point their fingers bleed- not just nails, they also bite their cuticles)
If dad allows step mom to run the house, that is his choice, for his house and BM gets no say. Threatening to create a 'nightmare' out of the other bio parents choices is the stuff of crazy BM's who we come on here to vent about.
That said, I would never take a paddle or belt to my skids asses, not how I choose to discipline a child. I will however back hand a skid who cusses at me and calls me derogatory names. Don't like it? Then the bio needs to step up and raise the kid better so that problem never arises. Do not expect ME to put up with verbal or physical abuse from a kid because it was not raised to respect adults around them. Do not expect me to walk away or back down in my own home. I am the adult. That child will be put back in its place of being a child and not being in control quickly.
I will snatch a cell phone so fast their heads will spin. And let their dad know about it when he gets home. Reason for the removal of the cell and for how long I removed it. I pay the bill. Don't like it?
a) raise your kid better
b) pay for the phone yourself
c) there is the door.
We have had in the past "You can't take that, MOM paid for it." Bet me. My house, my rules that shit is gone. When you go back to your moms you can take it with you and it is not allowed back IN my house for x period of time. If you sneak it in and I find it, it will have a really unfortunate introduction to the garbage disposal.
There are a lot of parents, mainly BM's, who think Co-parenting means parents have to agree on everything. Which is actually not true. Intact family parents rarely agree on everything. Take a couple that divorced and who honestly don't like each other and attempting to get them to agree on anything is an almost physical impossibility. To get them to agree on EVERYTHING regarding how kids are raised is even less likely to happen.
IMO and its only my opinion: co parents get together on: education, medical, financial and legal issues regarding their kids. Breaking that down further, agreeing on schools (including extra curriculars), doctors, dealing with child support and custody issues.
In rare cases the parents are able to get together when the kid has SCREWED up and are able to effectively punish the child together. (same punishment, both houses, for a predetermined and agreed upon period of time.)
Coparents do not have to hold a summit over no bite, what TV shows kids are allowed to watch, what clothes they are allowed to wear, hairstyles, shoes, back packs. They aren't required to agree on each others reward systems or punishment systems. Food eaten, allotted video game time, pets, play dates (as long as scheduled on their own time), vacations (again scheduled on their own time) etc etc.
The building I am sitting in is my house. My home.
I am the woman of this house.
The rules that govern it are ones created by myself and my husband.
This does not make me the skids mother or a mother replacement. It makes me the matriarch. The head female. A position of authority in the home.
BM has no say within the four walls of this house. It is not her place to have a say here. Her say is at her house on her custodial time. DH's say is here on his. If he has a problem with something I say or do, he brings it to me, we discuss come to an agreement and continue on our lives.
The bio parents have divorced- the days of getting 100% say in their kids upbringing are over. BM may always and forever be their mother, but she does not influence the happenings in our home. Just as DH will always and forever be there dad, but BM sure isn't going to run her house according to his dictates.
The BM in our life 'brought on the nightmare' when DH and I did not agree with her on issues with the skids.
It didn't end too well for her.
HOLY!!! I'm printing that out
HOLY!!! I'm printing that out now for DH--hell actually to remind myself that.
"There are a lot of parents, mainly BM's, who think Co-parenting means parents have to agree on everything. Which is actually not true. Intact family parents rarely agree on everything."
LOL.
^^ Can I photocopy this and
Can I photocopy this and hang it on our fridge???
Bitter Apple spray is sold
Bitter Apple spray is sold for kids too not just puppies. It's natural but has rubbing alcohol in it. You can make your own from apple cider vinegar, etc. Just google it.
We don't control what goes on
We don't control what goes on at SS's mother's house. And we act like most of it is rightly none of our business.
We expect the same in return, and in lieu of actually getting it, we will demand it.
Exactly. I'm sure many dad's
Exactly. I'm sure many dad's here would love to have their kids not eat the junk some Bm's put into their kids bodies all the time. But they're told to suck it up because they can't control what goes on at Bm's house. And the sugar and processed foods are probably equally, if not more debilitating.
What advice then, would you give these dads who deal with that? Would you suggest they go nuts on BM too?
What if dads believe a vegetarian diet is best and meats are poison? Should he go nuts on BM for that if she serves meat to the kids at her house? Seriously, if you want to have your beliefs respected, then respect everyone else's and realize you only have control over anything past what is legally allowed by law. Be you a BM or BD.
Um, can I just say that if
Um, can I just say that if you have a problem with the fact that an SM is actually doing something that would help and save your child in the future, as in using No Bite, then we've got serious control issues here. If the dad wants or lets the SM use it, he might as well have been the one to do it, and therefore the one who had the last say was him. He's the parent too and he always has the last say, even if it doesn't look like it from the outsider's point of view.
Nail biting can get SO bad and I've seen it in my younger sister--the nails started to grow INTO the fingers and oh god just thinking about it freaks me out. She had to go to the doctor to control the infection. She, in college, ended up controlling it herself by buying this special nail polish that is bitter when chewed. Guess she got tired of the pain from the infections.
If you as a parent of a child who has that problem doesn't do use all in their power to stop it, I'd be unleashing my fury on YOU for being a negligent mother/father, or at the very least looking down on you.
Sheesh, when did the health of a child in the form of something that can prevent medical intervention become an issue comparable to hitting a child without provocation?
I can see a BM being
I can see a BM being concerned about what is physically done to her kid but she has ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to go ape shit over anything I say to her that is true.
I haven't done it YET - but I am sure at some time I will mention to SS that he mom was not a faithful wife. She was a cheating asshole. That's the truth.
I too have skids that chew
I too have skids that chew their nails and fingers until they bleed. I am going to find this no bite stuff and use it. Knowing them, they'll still chew them and develop a taste for it. :?