Morbid Content- BM at funeral of your SO?
Other post reminded me of this...as I have thought about it at times as well.
Would BM be at your SO's funeral, if God forbid they passed away in the near future?
I am sure I would be at my Ex's funeral. I would be there to show support for my BS obviously. I would want to say my farewells. I would guinely be upset by his passing as we are cordial with each other and I would feel for my BS.
I can somewhat imagine the same for BM, she would want to be there for the skids. She was married to DH for 16 years.
Would you ban BM?
Would you banish her to the back row?
Am I the only morbid person who has ever thought about this and stressed about it?
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I've thought about it. I
I've thought about it. I don't know why these thoughts have crossed my mind, but they have.
I would absolutely ban BM from the funeral. She has done nothing but make our lives hell since we got married. I'd obviously want my SD there, so I would have my MIL bring her.
I also know that BM would make life hell long after my husband died. She would come after me for continued child support.
That is a fantastic idea. I
That is a fantastic idea. I always figured BM would take SD and never let my husband's family see her again. This is a great way to force her to let them be involved in her life. And you're right - it takes you out of the equation completely. I need to talk to my husband about this.
So is there an exact amount
So is there an exact amount specified (to go into the trust)? Or is it a percentage once any debt is settled? Or do you get to decide after you've done what you need to with the money?
Thanks but I'm in Canada.
Thanks but I'm in Canada.
This conversation reminded me that we need to do our will so I'll see what our lawyer can put together in this regard.
You think your BM would want
You think your BM would want you to keep seeing your SD?
Wow.
Wow.
I just posted a question
I just posted a question about this below, but maybe this answers it for me.
All my husband has to do is put it in his will that it's not to be used for CS? I know I'm already the sole beneficiary.
Yes, I think you're right.
Yes, I think you're right. Having a bio of your own with your husband makes a difference. He has two kids to take care of, not just the one from the broken relationship.
I would put a little money away for SD too, just so I knew I did the right thing. Her mom is useless and makes a lot less money than I do. I'd feel terrible if she wasn't taken care of for some reason. But I'd only give it to SD when she turns 18 and moves out so that BM can't get her greedy little hands on it.
So how exactly does that
So how exactly does that work? I am the beneficary of DH's policy.
I assumed skids would collect SS benefits in leiu of CS payments?
Okay, I have a questions
Okay, I have a questions about this.
If my husband died, I'd get his life insurance proceeds. But we've got two houses and two mortgages. I'd need to use the life insurance money to pay down the mortgages enough for me to afford them on my own.
If my husband's ex girlfriend wanted to get money from me for their daughter, there might not be any left after I pay off his half of the mortgages. Would a judge look at the gross insurance proceeds, or the net amount left after his debt is settled?
I'm an accountant, but I never ran into this kind of situation.
Hmm that's tough! I have no
Hmm that's tough! I have no idea how that would work...my DH has his life insurance set up so that half goes to BM (in trust of SD...ya right), and the other half to me and BD.
This is what I am thinking
This is what I am thinking too.
DH's policy is enough to cover funeral expenses, pay off the mortgage on our home and some other misc. bills and then enough to get me settled for about 4 months. Not much left over.
I googled this, just because
I googled this, just because I was curious.
A guy asked this question- would his life insurance go for CS or to his wife the beneficiary.
Here was someone's response:
I know you love your wife and want to "provide" for her in the event of your demise, but...don't you love your child more? Who is more capable of providing for themselves? Your wife, or your child?
This is not legal advice. Jmo only.
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I understand the base message
I understand the base message in that response kind of...but it is totally a case-by-case scenario (which rarely gets taken into consideration). In my instance, I would be a single mother with one income. SD would live with her mother who is married to a man with a very hefty income. So actually, SD would be much better off than me and BD. So there it is.
I'm in the same situation.
I'm in the same situation.
I think it's only fair that
I think it's only fair that if my BD and I don't get much once the debt is settled, my SD shouldn't get much either.
Although, the legal system has been known to cater to CODs. Look at the requirements to pay for university for CODs.
If my husband died, I'd get
If my husband died, I'd get his life insurance proceeds. But we've got two houses and two mortgages.
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Depends on your state. Unless a will states otherwise, your SD would inherit half of your DH's share of your estate. Not counting life insurance policies. (In Texas).
This means, if your SD is really young, then BM would be in control of her portion of your DH's estate. YIKES!!
I'm in Canada.
I'm in Canada.
Oh for sure. This is yet
Oh for sure. This is yet another thing my DH has been talking about doing, but hasn't gotten around to yet.
I know even if it's all laid out clearly, BM would still try to come after me. It's what she does.
I was telling my DH that if
I was telling my DH that if we both died, we need to set it up so everything of mine goes to BD (obviously). His would get split evenly between SD and BD.
Oh I know my mine wold be
Oh I know my mine wold be there. Likely asking me when she gets her money and giving me the big fake crocodile tears.
If BM died? I actually think DH would go. And I would be mad. It would be a fight of epic proportions.
If BM died? I actually think
If BM died? I actually think DH would go. And I would be mad. It would be a fight of epic proportions.
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THIS and he went he'd be lying right next to the swamp cunt
Edited to add the only way SO would get away with going was if he was going with the purpose of driving a steak in her heart and cutting off her head, we DON'T want that bitch coming back to life.
"If BM died? I actually think
"If BM died? I actually think DH would go. And I would be mad. It would be a fight of epic proportions."
I think times like this are when all the $hit should be put aside and people should be adults for the kids, especially if they're minors. If my father or mother died when I was a kid and the living parent didn't show up to be there for me, I'd be pi$$ed off about that. Having BMs extended family there would be nice for those kids, I'm sure, but it doesn't compensate for a parent being there to help them.
I called my DH on the way
I called my DH on the way home from the funeral and told him the story. I also asked him if I had to let Krazy (BM) attend his funeral if her passed away while Snowflake is still a minor.
He didn't want to talk about it - thought it was morbid. I did tell him I would punch Krazy in the nose if she tried that a stunt like that with me.
Mine would be there but not
Mine would be there but not out of concern for her boys or SO but to as usual play the victim and get the attention. I can see her throwing herself on the casket sobbing my poor babies their daddy is gone, what will they do without their daddy. So all the attention and pity would be on her. FUCKING TOOL. Yes if I had a say I would ban that gold digging, knuckle dragging unemployed loser swamp cunt. Bet your sweet ass. And if god forbid something happened in the here and now I would have full control since SO hasn't spoken to his alcoholic bi polar mother in over a year and a half. (long story).
She'd probably send a
She'd probably send a condolence card, but wouldn't come to the funeral.
No I don't think BM would in
No I don't think BM would in our case. MIL would bring SD of course, but I seriously think BM would know better than to darken the doors of the funeral home. She put DH through hell and is always after him for more money, so she is well aware that no one in DH's family cares for her. And she's so childish she wouldn't even consider it "the right thing to do for SD" so nope.
BM would only go to see where
BM would only go to see where her money was. I'd prepare a card for her with instructions for her trip to hell and then to the SS office for her to apply for death benefits. She wouldn't bring the skids as they are too delicate to handle a funeral for their Dad.
If BM died I'm sure we'd go, just to make sure it was true, and to support the skids. BM's mother would make a scene about how BM wants her boys raised by her and demand CS from DH. DH would not allow a scene and take the skids home with him.
The more I think about
The more I think about this... I would want to be comfortable and be able to grieve, so I would not want BM there at all. DH cant stand her. She would play the victim and probably even say nasty things about DH.
But I can see people, and the skids thinking that I am bitch if I did ban BM.
I thought of this often when
I thought of this often when I was married to my exH.BM is SO over the top and dramatic she'd turn his funeral into the BM SHOW.In my mind I would have let her attend and given her a chance.If she started with her over the top performance of grieving exwife I would have booted her ass out.
Yes- this would be the reason
Yes- this would be the reason I would attend my Ex's funeral or why my mom would attend my dad's.
My BM and SM get along though
I have 2 ex-husbands - only
I have 2 ex-husbands - only had kids with the first husband. If he died I would not attend the service, two of my kids are teenagers and can look after the 10 year old. My ex has remarried and had 2 more kids so it would not be proper for me to be there.
My second husband and I are great friends and he and my current DH are friends as well. He has no family here in the US so if he passed suddenly then more than likely I would be in charge of his service and would take care of his estate.
I was telling a friend this story and I told her that if my DH passed and his ex tried a stunt like this I would march my ass up on the podium and punch her in the nose.
Yes. She's the mother of his
Yes. She's the mother of his young children. They would be devastated and would need their Mom there. I wouldn't be in the way of that at all.
agree whole heartedly!
agree whole heartedly!
No. DH and BM were never
No. DH and BM were never married and she has made his life hell. DH and i talked about this and he would want her banned.
I'll do it!
I'll do it!
Lol it came up because a
Lol it came up because a friend of ours passed and all of a sudden everyone was his "best/closest friend" and i HATE when people do that. I told DH I would have a list of people to be escorted put of my funeral if they tried t show up claiming to be my BFF. He said BM wouldn't be allowed at his. She would rewrite history about how in love they were and how they worked together for sd and got along. Which is of course false.
If BM died we would rejoice. Sad for sd but honestly she would be better off. We would not go to the funeral. However sd could definitely go with her mom's family.
I think BM should be there if
I think BM should be there if the kids are under 18 for moral support. Would she sit with the family in the front row? No. But if she can be discreet and sit behind them that's fine. Also, if the kids want to sit with her, then let them.
If they are over 18, then she should sit quietly in the back and allow the true mourners to grieve over the loss.
H and I have discussed this many times. He doesn't want a funeral. He wants to be cremated and wants a wake. That's it. And only family and friends will be invited to that. Skid is nearly 19 and Uberskank is welcome if she can afford the plane ticket from Hades.
ETA - I'd leave it to DH to decide if he'd attend Uberskank's service. He may do it to support skid, but he'd otherwise be uninterested.
I doubt my exAsshole would show up to mine, but I'd leave that to H to decide.
I would not attend his service.
I have to tell you all about
I have to tell you all about a funeral I went to recently. My dear friend's husband passed. I did not know her husband well but I went to support her. During the calling hours I met her husband's step children, his dead wife's sisters and nieces and nephews. Everyone was just wonderful to everyone.
Shocking to me in my present situation but it was lovely. We all came together to honor his life and to support his wife (my dear friend). He was a kind man who was loved by many.
It can be done in a nice way. I can honestly say that I've never been to a funeral like this before and probably won't see again.
Oh yeah, BM would want to be
Oh yeah, BM would want to be there because after all SHE is entitled to be the victim, that is what she does best. She would need people to feel sorry for her and pet her, she lives for that shit!!
I would absolutely let her
I would absolutely let her come. He was the father of her child also....although BM and I get along quite well in my situation. Most aren't that lucky. In a time like that, to me, it's most important to be there for the Skid(s)....they are hurting enough with the loss of their dad, I wouldn't add that conflict.
I know that if bm died dh
I know that if bm died dh would go to her wake and funeral to support the sds, and his former in-laws, with whom he gets along. I'm ok with that. She's their mom. BM doesn't care when anyone dies so she wouldn't care if my dh died, or show up at his services.
If that bitch dared to show
If that bitch dared to show her face at FDH's funeral...I'd be going to jail.
Anyway, for the skids I would have MIL bring them also. We rewrote our wills recently and we have the same sort of trusts set up as Scubed does. I had my Mom set everything up, shes good like that.
BM did show up and brought a
BM did show up and brought a large entourage with her.
I know I was still in shock the day of my DHs services so I didn't even think about having anyone banned. She was actually very gracious to me and at one point gave me a hug but whispered into my ear, "He loved both of us very much". I didn't respond to that...I was really numb that day and many weeks if not months after even.
It was one of my SDs and her half-sister (BMs first born was my DHs step)who were the ones who made the service horrible. They brought in huge photos of DHs life with BM. I had told his kids about putting photos together and had asked if there were any they had that we could display and/or put on a video montage. They gave me a few but thought they were pulling one over on me with their attempt to display the large pictures.
i never even had to ask but my family just found things like flowers or other pictures to hide parts of their pictures and then stood guard so no one could mess with the pictures anymore!
All in all, there weren't any scenes but it took many people who worked behind the scenes without my knowledge to make it possible.
Oh yes, I have thought about
Oh yes, I have thought about this.
Not only would BM be banned, but I would probably take out a restraining order and hire a bouncer to keep her out. I can't imagine anything worse than seeing the bitch who made his life a living hell while I was in a state of grieving. It would be for her own good. Losing my husband would be devastating. I can't imagine what I would do to her while in that state.
If she died, we would throw a party. Not joking. I would not only stay away from her funeral, but I would stay away from the kids for a few weeks too. They don't need to see me celebrating. DH could be there for the kids in every capacity except going to the funeral with them. I would probably leave him if he went.
He'll NO and I'd have someone
He'll NO and I'd have someone parked at the door with a baseball bat. She has given him zero respect for years, she won't get the opportunity to pay any fake respects when he dies.
No way in H-E-L-L! We have
No way in H-E-L-L! We have friends on the police force and have orders that BioMonster is not to come near my darling DH! Her oldest daughter is 22 (DH raised her from age 2; her BF has no contact) and she could drive the skids.
You know, the answer to this
You know, the answer to this used to be no, but now I'm not so sure. BM showed up when MIL was critically ill in the hospital, along with SD21, and BM didn't even have the decency to leave the room when DH showed up to say goodbye to his mother, cutting short our vacation when we were halfway across the country. BM stayed in the room the entire time! Tool. So yeah, she might come to his funeral after all.
That's a hard thing to have
That's a hard thing to have to consider. Especially considering that your at a funeral and that's hard enough to deal with. But to have an ex of all people there would just make it that much harder.
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I just told DH about this
I just told DH about this post and he immediately said "you have my FULL permission to ban her from my funeral, I would NOT want her there!!" I replied "and how would that make SS feel" ..he didn't say anything :/
Then I said "also, BM is under the full impression that you and her are amicably co parenting (DH is always very civil, I don't think she has any idea that he despises her) ..she would most likely argue the point that you'd have *wanted* her there"
DH thought a moment then said "I'll write in my will that I don't want her there"
do you think that'd work?