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and here I am seriously considering round 2 of steplife.

AJanie's picture

It has been a few months. Missed the board.

My journey with addict ex and 2 skids was basically hell for 5 years. The good times were certainly short lived... his ex was a nightmare, he was a nightmare, and if I am being honest... even the skids were kind of, well, nightmares. (EX is living in his sister's house on an air mattress and has been arrested twice since our initial separation, just as an aside) Dirol

Yet, low and behold, here I am still dating a single dad. With a young son. I still have my apartment and I still only see him on certain nights, I certainly am not in a rush to move in or anything, but I am definitely starting to see a future. And he loves me and makes it a point to show me he loves me, every day.

He is a hard worker, honest, drug free and...and not much of a drinker, a dedicated father, considerate, romantic, fun, great cook, good to animals, etc, etc. Hits all the criteria.

That being said he is also the friggin' custodial parent, he finalized that arrangement recently, with his ex being the EOW parent. So yeah, he is basically tied down with a 5 year old. A high energy, "I bet he has ADHD" after 32 seconds in a room with him type of child.

The ex is nice to me, almost too nice, she has a history of drug addiction, so new guy "gets" what I dealt with, she is definitely a bit of a head case, certainly wouldn't win any mom of the year awards... but seemingly not the conflict type like former BM... more the "let me try to be your best friend" type. Not sure which is worse in the long run.

Anyway, I know it seems (is) crazy. I have tried a few times to talk myself into ending this and finding a child-free fish in the sea... but I adore this guy. I feel like he is worth it (eye rolls ... I know...). He makes me happy and he makes it all seem easy.

So I wonder:

Is step life sort of like prison? Once you go in and then get released back into society... you have a high chance of going back in again? Was being a repeat offender written in the stars?

and

Is it always bad?

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secret's picture

lol - the silver lining, is that you're in a position to teach him how to treat you when it comes to his parenting / his child.

Good for you, AJanie - you deserve happiness.

Simpleton21's picture

Oh NOOOO! RUN! LOL, j/k, I think that it is almost impossible these days to find someone without a child. Just use what you have learned here!

I also think that Father/son dynamic is different than father/daughter dynamic but every case is different.

I know from my experience dealing with my ex (my older son's dad) being an addict and incarcerated (currently) has been way easier than dealing with my SO's MOTY GUBM who is batshit crazy and has no idea what boundaries are. It is sad for a child of an addict but they really know that they can't count on their biological parent and they will always love them but I think they appreciate the step parents in their life more because of that. My son has become close with my SO b/c he is there for him. My ex (even though he is an addict and made some really poor choices) has also been much more appreciative and supportive of my SO being in my son's life. It is better than the BM that expects me to treat her daughter better than my children and support her financially and then bashes me for everything!

AJanie's picture

I feel for you. I dealt with a nightmare BM for years. She wasn't a "concerned" mother like the portrayed (although she should have been, my ex was a loser)... she was a jealous, control freak psychopath. At the end when my ex was out of control and I was actually trying to be in touch with her for the skids wellbeing she couldnt be bothered, because she knew I was leaving him. She was only annoying and critical when I was a "threat."
... funny how that worked.

Simpleton21's picture

That is exactly the BM I have on my hands and it is exhausting...well it was until I found this site and it has been my "safe place" as we put it for the snowflakes! LOL! I have also learned to not engage with BM EVER and mostly disengaged with SD as much as I can tolerate.

Anyways, just proceed with caution with the new one, you live separately so that is a plus! Also if we are going for positives I love my SM. She came into my life when I was already grown but I don't feel the need to try to destroy her relationship with my dadddeeeee! I also love my SO's SM...she is the most logical and level headed parent he has! I also love my stepdad. He has been a part of my life since I was a teen. He came at the worst time and made it through and I have always looked at him as added support not competition with my real dad Wink

still learning's picture

You're a sucker for punishment Wink Have fun during the honeymoon period, although you and new guy probably don't get much time alone since he's custodial dad. I guess we always go back to what's familiar until we finally learn our lesson.

hereiam's picture

Just don't rush into anything, like marriage or even living together. It takes awhile to REALLY get to know someone (and his kid), and to observe their parenting and how they interact with the ex. Some people can pretend or hide things for a long time, if motivated.

Make sure you get to know the real him and see the true dynamic of his relationship with his kid and his ex.

It doesn't have to be a deal breaker.

momjeans's picture

What hereiam said.

Woooo. Custodial parent. I would have a hard time considering living together, marriage, if this is the case. If I were in your shoes, I’d keep my own place and observe for a long, long time.

Then again, coming from a place of already having a child walking into step life, and pretty much being sold a pretty lie, wrapped-up with a bow on top, just how great and easy everything was with BM, etcetera... No.

You might find yourself totally okay with it, down the road, and if that’s the case, I’m happy you’re happy!

AJanie's picture

Thanks, momjeans! Truly trying to observe, pace myself, etc. I am falling hard these last few weeks so sometimes I find myself wanting to stay over his place "just one more night" after our usual routine (weekends together and 1 night during week) but I pry myself away. lol.

DaizyDuke's picture

Glad that you found someone who treats you well. Just curious though... what would you have said about your ex, when you first met him/started dating him? A lot of those same things I'm assuming or you never would have moved in with him and married him right? Just be careful. That honeymoon phase can throw you for a loop and people can be good at hiding the crazy, but eventually it will come out. hopefully not the case with this guy!

AJanie's picture

Honestly, my ex had many, many bright red flags that were visible RIGHT FROM THE START.

With him, I thought I could "change him."

That being said, I don't deny I am still in the honeymoon phase with new guy. Fortunately, my lease is until August 2018 so I am not making any quick moves Smile

zerostepdrama's picture

Enjoy your time. Just don't make any moves until AT LEAST being together for a year.

blayze's picture

Glad to see you around here! Your ex is such a waste...lucky you got out and stayed out!

Not all skids are deal breakers - the one you described sounds un-fun though Blum 3

I dated a guy before ex-SO who had a daughter. Although he adored her, he was a stern dad, which allowed me to be the "good cop" with her. He and I were ultimately mismatched, but I've fb-stalked her from afar and she still seems like the same sweet girl.

I hope you enjoy your time with new dad, and remember that he doesn't have to be your 'forever' guy... he could just be a transition guy... and those are great for fun and healing.

AJanie's picture

True, he certainly could be a transition, I suppose you never really know.

Are you an old user with a new name?! I don't recognize...

Indigo's picture

Glad to "see" you again.

"Recidivism" is not just for convicted criminals. It applies to everyone IRL. We use different terms. We all tend to stick closely to what feels most comfortable and familiar even if it has giant red flags attached. Just file it away in the back of your mind & go slowly.

AJanie's picture

"File it in the back of your mind and go slowly." I love that - thanks.. (sometimes the trauma of the past is too much in the forefront.)

Exjuliemccoy's picture

It so good to hear from you AJ!

Why are you dating only this one guy? Finding a high quality partner is a numbers game - the more diverse candidates you date, the more data you have to make an informed choice. There are so many interesting single guys out there!

After a bad breakup, I had to force myself to get back out there, and intentionally went on dates with guys I didn't feel particularly attracted to because I knew my picker was a bit bent.

I urge you to take things very slowly as you continue to work on healing and personal growth. There was a reason you were drawn to your ex, and you need to be able to identify and alter those old patterns before getting into another relationship.

The fact that there is a drug component in this new potential bf's life concerns me, even though it's the BM. Haven't you had a lifetime of that already?

AJanie's picture

Good to be back, always got sound advice here.

So I acknowledge I have limited myself when my initial intention was to date and be freeee. I dated 3 guys total since I left EX which was only last August. So it all is quite fast. The other 2 guys I went on dates with were kid-free (go figure.) One was truly odd and I just didn't feel the connection and the other guy was wonderful but he announced on date 2 that he never, ever wanted children of his own. I want a bio kid so why continue even dating? Kind of a let down.

Anyway, new guy recently brought up the whole I want to be exclusive issue and I agreed with him. So here I am. Dating just him, and happily so.

I am just trying to be sure I keep it as just dating and do not fall into a domestic routine too early on, which is easier to do than I realized.

The drug situation, well I certainly have had a lifetime of it. In fact, one of my former "best" friends (high school days) died of an OD a few weeks back. I was a zombie the entire funeral, picturing my ex and dealing with all the anger and anxiety all over again.

I think the fact that new guy has experience with loving an addict actually has helped me heal. If that makes any sense. It is like a shitty club no one wants to be a part of, but it feels good to meet other members.

Veritas's picture

Ajanie, good to see you and great to hear you are enjoying life! Not much I can add because I was going to bring up everything you covered in this last comment of yours LOL!

But I will say this....every relationship is different unless you are the same Smile

Wishing you the absolute best with this and the foresight to discern when you need to....

AJanie's picture

I think I am still learning and figuring out who I am... probably will take a lifetime.

But I know I have changed, for the better, after all the hell and heartbreak.

Good to be back Wink

robin333's picture

AJ, so good to see you! Please take your time. Focus on YOU and learn to love who you are. Please take your time. Hugs!

AJanie's picture

Hugs, Robin! Tuesday night is reserved for me and my dog Wink I appreciate the "me" time very much after the last several years...

Sometimes when New guy's son starts getting loud I make an excuse and flee. lol. I still very much remember all those nights of hiding in my bedroom from the skids! So this me time is precious.

Veritas's picture

AJ!!!! What???? Why are you making an excuse and fleeing? Making excuses is NOT living an authentic life and only supports the pattern under which you were living before.

secret's picture

Does he at least try to quiet the kid down? is he parenting? or is the kid just naturally loud yet well behaved?

No Name's picture

Take it really slow. My ex had two daughters. The oldest was 9 and the youngest 7. I loved the oldest, I truly did. The 7 year old was a brat. Never really had any issues with the girls. Had issues with their BM but not the girls. They are all much older now and when I divorced from their father we all remained friendly (including BM as we now had something in common) LOL.
This time around my now DH had 3 ranging from 7-12. Things were good for the first year and a half. But once we moved in together they were terrors. I chalked it up to immaturity. I went from ignoring the behavior, to avoiding the behavior, to complaining to DH about the behavior. Things went from bad to worse and now we do not speak or see each other. They continue to try and cause problems.
Five year old little boys are full of energy but they can also be so sweet.
If BM isn't causing any issues and she can accept that more than the biological parents can care and love her child I think that you will be just fine. I truly believe that most issues with the skids stem from the mother at least in my experience.

WTF...REALLY's picture

I think as we get older it’s going to be hard to find partners that are child free.

Take it slow, don’t break your lease and see how it goes as time goes by.

FrenchPeas's picture

Lol i found one with no kids. 49. Couldn’t believe it. But it was another flop. He was super strange. So i was done with that after one date.

WTF...REALLY's picture

Lol

Sorry it did not work out.

When they are older and have not married or had kids..makes you wonder “what’s wrong with you?”

It’s a double edge sword.

mommadukes2015's picture

We have custody off SS and I can tell you life is much easier and less hectic/dramatic than when we didn't have custody.

AJanie's picture

I agree I did rush. It might help to add that I've known him for 9 years... he was an acquaintance/friend of mine, I would see him occasionally.

Ladystark's picture

I dont know...some of you saying boy, uh well i have a boy ss and he hates me... not sure if boy/girl matters.

I think its the dynamic that matters and attitude,,If this guy is sincer and has her back...im sure it will be fine.

Good luck to you, if dh and i split soon, im being a dog lady!! Eff bringing anyone else into this mess!!

SMto2's picture

Really glad you posted the update. I went back and read some of your blogs for back story. This quote from you in September, 2017 jumped out at me:

"I talked to my therapist and we decided I cannot date anyone exclusively for 6 months to a year. She said a lot of people in my situation will turn to a new man for comfort, but I need to work on myself. Sounds like the smart thing to do. I have to figure out why I ignored red flags and settled down with an evil person. I never want to make this mistake again."

That statement was only made 4 months ago. What happened to your plan not to date anyone exclusively for 6 months to a year? I'm not saying this new guy is bad. He may be THE ONE. However, it seems you have gotten very serious very fast and maybe you just want to take it a little more slowly and cautiously, to give time for any "red flags" to emerge.

Also, I don't think the fact that new guy (or any other guy) has a child automatically should disqualify them from consideration. Each situation is unique, but that is definitely one of the factors to be considered, and to be considered EXTRA CAREFULLY.

Best of luck to you!

AJanie's picture

What happened to my plan...... well........ he happened.....

I've known new guy for quite awhile and can honestly say I never expected us to date. I actually went out to dinner with him, his bm, and my EX a couple years back. He was an acquaintance of ours, until my ex went on his downward spiral, then we would only see his "friends" that were assisting in his demise.

Thank you!

Cara1128's picture

Lol..prison..lololol
During these modern times with the rate of divorce as high as its ever been the possibility of finding single people without kids becomes slimmer as we age.
In the end after taking preecautions all we can do is leap and hope for the best.
Disclaimer:long post
What I did(hubs has 2 sons with 2 dif bms and mil-his mom- thinks she is the parent- craaazzyyy. He is the non-custodial parent):
1. Observed him with the boys on his weekends
2. Put my 2 cents in about his life while we were living separately.Liked the respobse I got(this is paramount)eg. Do you think bm calling about some uninportant crap at 12 am is appropriate?
3. Moved him into MY apartment(my place my rules...one way to ensure I don't get the shaft if he chooses to be irresponsible/guilty/lenient with the skids.if HE is the one to be a jerk then he should be the one who pays. Luckily we are pretty good together so nothing happened)
4. Discussed finances BEFORE moving in to my apt. He pays half Rent+utilities in cash to me plus we have an agreed upon food budget (he pays half the food budget to me and I buy-he cooks).
NO joint accounts- he has cs/I have student loans
5.If the skids need something he buys it.(unless 200+ in which case he discusses it with me since I also handle our savings). CS was already established before me.
6. There are house rules that do not change.
7.I can discipline.
8.He has the kids he tajes care of his kids.(bathing,feeding,disciplining, watching etc.). This actually was unexpected as he does this on his own.
I help out he does the bulk.
9. We take one weekend for ourselves every few weeks.
10. He discusses every serious conversation he has with bm about the kids with you first.There should only be serious conversations w/ bm about ss at the point you invite him into your apartment/house.(eg BM does not call about the weather or for a ride froom the bar, or because she thought she saw something in a dark alley - issues about ss only)
11. How do you like your MIL? How does she like you? How does she like BM?
Observe before moving in.
It is hard enough to live with SO who has full custody, Bm a bit cray but adding an MIL who is not in your corner...a LOT harder!
Sorry such a long post...
I wish you the best of luck(it sounds like he is a keeper)!

AJanie's picture

Solid advice! His mom lives thousands of miles away ... kind of nice Wink

I am analyzing and paying close attention to his parenting and relationship with the ex. I feel better equipped to assess the situation the second time around...

Thanks Smile

Acratopotes's picture

yeah - now if you go missing again I will hunt you down!!!!!

So what, you found a guy with a hyper kid and douche Ex wife.... nothing wrong with it my friend. I would advice you not to move in, at least not for a couple of years, these guys change as soon as you move in and if you want to keep this way, then stay in your little place...
If he starts asking about moving in together ask him straight out WHY?

If the first reason is economically it makes more sense, he loves you and it would be good for his kid... laugh and tell him, NO not moving in together, Economically I'm fine, I like you as well and not moving in to make your kid happy... I'm not his mother and he's not my responsibility...

Keep things the way they are, who knows, maybe after a year you do not feel so strong about him, or you meet some one else, it's way to early to be thinking of moving in.......

You can see now if he allows you to discipline the little snot, if kid is running around and making noises tell kid, hey calm down and keep quiet,
suggest play therapy for the snot... make it clear if he can't deal with it now he never will, it will get worse... that kid needs discipline and therapy now to make sure that he will launch at 18...

AJanie's picture

Hi Acra!!!

No moving in... got it... I am really glad I signed that lease, it kind of forces me to not make any hasty moves (I definitely have my newly in love rose colored goggles on, after all).

My place has a pool so I want to spend the summer there, anyway. Blum 3

justmakingthebest's picture

Repeat offender here too! I stayed away from step life for 2 whole years. Dated some, nothing serious... Came back here a few months go after being with my guy for over 2 years (I am from the days of Crew Blum 3 ), High Conflict BM... Kids are great though. SO is wonderful. It can happen. Not all of steplife is horrible. There are things we can control and things that we can't. After the abuse and PTSD that was suffered from my ex, I didn't ever think I could deal with a man with kids. I think that I blamed steplife issues vs. blaming a bad man for a long time. Steplife doesn't have to be hell when you have the right partner. It can be frustrating, that is a lot that you cant control, which for someone like me is super difficult. This site is amazing to be able to vent when it seems that no one else around you understands what you go through- especially court drama, HCBM drama, behavior drama, etc.

But sometimes someone wonderful walks into your life and it is worth it Smile Take is slow. Keep control of your life- especially financially. Don't be bitter about the past, and give it a real chance if he is worth it.

AJanie's picture

I also think being with a bad man was more of the issue than BM and the skids. He caused the majority of the problems by being extremely passive about the important things, and a drama king about the small things.

He wasn't a man.

FrenchPeas's picture

Hey AJ! Glad for the update. Just be cautious. I waited over a year to date. Dated a guy and it went sour after a month. Total a-hole. Have had ONE Date since. Guy had no kids but was throwing off red flags left and right. Made me cringe. One date and done. Haven’t gone out since. I lost my little toy long coat chihuahua recently and was devastated. About a month later, i found a new little male long coat chihuahua and i adore him. I have two guy friends that i hang out with and I’m ok with it. My counselor cut me loose last summer. So I’ve been doing my thing on my own. And it’s been good for me.

Big hugs!!!

AJanie's picture

I am so sorry for your loss Sad

Glad you found another dog. I am sure in a lot of ways that will help you heal!

Hugs!