The kids at school are going to eat SD-6 for lunch and spit her out. She is going to be the one that they all gang up on, ridicule and make fun of. DH had better get ready because this is coming and there is not much he is going to be able to do to prevent at this late stage of the game.

The first time she stands up in front of 1st grade class and asks the teacher wipe her ass is gonna be classic.

My SS was talking at 2, reading at ~3.5 and writing at 4.5. He did have issues with toilet training due to the SpermClan not continuing the process during Summer/Winter/Spring visitation but we got him straightened out before he started Kindergarten.

My brother's kids all three were on similar schedules as far as developmental milestones were concerned. We have mutual friends who catered to their kids and their kids could barely talk at 4 and 5yo. They were always amazed at my bro's kids when we had BBQs and other multiple family activities and gatherings. Our son is several years older so he pretty much was the only kid at our college and young adult partys,activities, camping trips, etc.... No one ever talked baby to our kid, he was just a mini me at all of the adult functions and he responded well to being talked to like a person rather than a moron which is how many parents speak to their younger kids.

My best friend and his wife have a 3yo. I have no F-in clue what that kid is saying any time I am around her. She speaks some cutesy made up language that only she and her parents understand. If my kid had asked for water at 3yo by saying "Kwee kwee" he would have died of thirst.

Every time SS would come home from SpermClan visitation and point at something he wanted and grunt and cry he got nothing until he used his words. If I had a dollar for every time our kid heard his mom or I say "use your words" I would be driving a brand new Z-06 right now.

DH needs to put severe consequences in place for SD-6 on table manners, butt wiping, and all other areas of age appropriate performance if he wants to fix this before she gets completely humiliated at school.

Now to throw myself under the bus. My parents brought my next younger brother home from the hospital when I was 6yo. Shortly there after I had issues with "accidents" in my pants and with falling out of bed when I was sleeping. My parents dealt with it for about a day and a half then put me in a diaper and made me sleep in a crib. I fixed the problem in a single night after they implemented the diaper/crib consequences. I was mortified which is why I remember it very clearly I guess.

DH needs to find some similar way of getting SD-6s attention if he wants to solve this.

I completely agree that you don't want this behavior around YOUR kids.

Rags I agree with you! My kids were writing their names and reading most simple words at 3. As a matter of fact my dd was put in the 4 year old class b/c she was way too bored. Never speak baby talk ever!

I love your parents we would so get a long!

ROTFLMAO! rags, your response is a classic! "kwee kwee".....

My skids 11 and 8 even after a year of dh and i teaching..talk with food in their mouths. Sd stuffs her mouth so full she cant chew and food falls out but then takes 20 bites of a fry like a rabbit. Her hair is in her plate and mouth and when you say chew with your mouth closed she giggles like its cute. talks like a baby and forgets to use soap!! SS 11 cries about dinner..and throws fits. chews with his mouth open. Both kids eat like a starved animal! They usually go back for more until the food is gone.

Dh spoke to their mom and asked for her to work with them at home and he will work with them here..her response is they dont do that..hmm skids say they eat in front of the tv! So how wouldf she know about table manners! Guess its why shes 300 lbs and turning her daughter into a not so mini me.

LOL, its actually sad that these Skids are pathetic as a result of their parents need to overcompensate for them. I look at my FSS6 and the way he speaks, and I get so appalled. My daughter tried speaking like him once at the dinner table, and i said "We do not speak like that angel, that method of speaking os reserved for people in the ghetto"... FSS6 is like he's in chronologically 6 and mentally 2... my daughter has far better command of English than he ever will. Dumb as dirt I tell you, dumb as dirt.

I know that when dh and I first got married the oldest was 8 and bm was still wiping his butt. We had them for the christmas that year (had to kid nap them whole other story) so we had them for a week. So anyway oss was yelling for dh to whip his butt and when I found out what was going on I had a little chat with him. He realized that is was not right for an 8 year old to not know how to whip his own butt. Dh started working with him and ss was picked up on very well. BM on the other had called throwing the biggest fit you ever heard! Saying he is my baby, what did you do to my baby!! Then when the youngest turned 4 he came up to me during a weekend we ahd them and said Purple I don't want to wear this any more. (a pull up) I told him then don't wear it. He took it off and never looked back. BM went ape shit again! Apparently I robbed her kids of being babies!? Dang right I did! }:)

Oh my gosh I swear you are living my life!! SD4 who will be five thursday is exactly the same way! They do everything for her!!! EVERYTHING!! I mean it was just recently when she started to wipe her on bottom!! When I mention anything to dh well you know she could do it if she wanted to. Thats the problem! Its dh its her grandmother its everybody! DH still puts her socks and shoes on her feet like she is an f-ing princess come on she is about to be five now. He never makes her eat right says you can't force a kid to eat and you can't starve a kid therefore she spends most of her time munching down on chips and brownies and candy. OMG he is like you can't expect a five year old to eat much. No not at all but I do expect that if she is given the choice ham sandwhich, macoroni & cheese, peanut butter and jelly, peanut butter and banana, or chili, or grilled cheese you need to pick one of those. NOpe instead its resee puff cereal. Dh "well you told her to pick" ugh i feel like i spend my whole time at night arguing. She is about to be five no i dont expect her to act like an adult but i expect her when she gets home to carry her shoes to her room instead of slinging them down in the dining room, I expect her to walk places not to be carried she is 42in and 51lbs! I expect her to clean up her room if asked just pick up her toys you know! I expect her to help fold the washclothes if she is around when I am doing laundry and to brush he teeth and her hair for me after she gets out of the bath. Two year olds brush their own teeth (i know not well) but they at least attempt with your guidance. I have been having huge issues no matter how many time i show the kid how to brush her teeth effectivly it still looks like a dang tornoado. Her toothbrush will usually end up on the floor toothpaste causing the hand towell to stick together there will be toothpast on the shower curtain on the rug covering the sink. I say something to dh and he is like well she just doesn't know any better my god i have showed her and helped her nine times now! so last night she walked in the living room and was like daddy daddy i brushed my teeth right and spit in the sink and everything. dh " wow you are such a big girl aren't you . .. do you want a brownie" i was like oh is "she a big girl now and didn't pee pee in her pull up" i know that was kinda rude but I mean my god (btw sd could not here me this was an adult convo) i was like you have to act like she walked on the moon and tell her how big of a girl she is! He was like you have to reward when they do something good. well i understand that its just like well i didnt think brushing your teeth at age five made you a big girl then the teeth are clean so you give them a brownie before be kinda contradicting huh? ughh stuff like that makes me so sick and ill. am i being to hard on the kid is she too young to be expected to do small things like that?

Butterfly, I hear you....DH's daughter, soon to be 7, needs her hand heald through everryyyything. And I can't help but want to break out in rediculous laughter when she does something that is normal for a 4 or 5 year old and everyone says what a genius she is. Really? Seriously? What kind of f'ing crazy pills are those people taking?!

I wonder to myself, WTH does Dh's daughter do at lunch at school when she doesn't have her high chair and sippy cup? :sick:

I would print off what kids are supposed to do at what age and hand it to dh to read!

HUH???? :O :O :O

Have you seen the movie Idiocracy? My DS14 was looking at that and as stupid as it was, I couldn't help but think that's where we're headed and this is why!

Maybe things will get better once you have your baby. At one point, dh and I had 4 kids under the age of 5 in the house. Actually, correction-I had 4 kids 5 and under as dh was in Iraq that year. I also worked fulltime. Believe you me, all my kiddos had to learn independence fairly early. No choice. The oldest 3 (which ss is the middle of the three) are all within 20 months of each other then 3 years separate the youngest of the three and my youngest daughter. I had 3 in diapers simulaneously. Logistically, there was just not time to wipe 4 different kids butts after they went poo. There-I am saying something nice about ss-he is probably the least responsible of the 4, but still able to care for himself more so than many of the kids I hear about on here (sometimes he chooses not to but that's a different story)

yeah i have tried doing the whole print this off give it to him explain stuff . he tells me me nor the internet has an idea of what being a parent is actually alike. that he is going to rub it in my face when i have a kid. i am sorry but i still don't think i will be that much different. i know i will love my kid differently and feel differently but picking up your own mess? i can't see that being any different. I was one of those kids that was babied not too terrible bad not coddled and stuff but my mom picked up after me all the time and never taught me how to be independant. seeing how much that has hurt me once i got in the real world. i couldn't cook, iron, handle social situations real well i really do not want my kids to be that way!

first of all, what is a wah wah? he's crippling her by keeping her a baby. this is for his benefit because he doesn't want her to grow up. we all sometimes baby our baby's but. ew! i'm mad, i don't know what a wah wah is! LOL

a monkey could color inside the lines at 6 years old. what's so friggin amazing about that?

we are raising children to become independent, self-reliant adults. how can that be accomplished if we are teaching them to fail to mature. this is so going to bite him in the teenage years. she won't take responsibility for her actions, it'll be a mess.

Nip It, NIP IT IN THE BUD!

She is a 6 year old, read up the psychology of 6 year olds ( I was super surprised when the teacher sent home a pamphlet about 1st graders this year and many of the things that our 6 year old daughter was doing that we got pissed about were just normal six year old things) Think about her and the age. When you have a child and that child is six it might be too late that you realize that you 6 year old sd was a 6 year old and maybe acting out a little bit because of her situation.I know having my child changed my thinking about kids but at the same time 6 year olds can be annoying. Spend some time trying to bond with her, not dreaming of the day when you have your own child because then your relationship with your SD and you BD or BS will be hurt in the future. I can't say I know your whole story but I can say she is only a child and hopefully you get that before you have your own child and totally alienate your SD
PS no offence was meant whatsoever but I just hope you can help you SD feel loved when she needs it the most

LOL You guys are funny. Some great writing! I am dealing with the same thing from SO's girls. SO complains about how the BM coddles them and does everything, babies them, etc. But so does he! The 6 year old constantly talks like a baby. I flat out told him that I could only put up with the baby talk for so long before I would be done for the day. I literally lagged behind at the zoo so I didn't have to listen to it anymore. We had a little tiff about it. Then a couple of weeks later, he comes back and says I was right. BECAUSE HE ASKED HIS OTHER TWO KIDS IF SHE TALKS LIKE A BABY AND *THEY* AGREED!!!! He told me the BM still wipes their butts...they are 8 and 6.5. They actually hold it if they have to go at school, so they can go when their mom can wipe them. I come from a different perspective. My kids have been very independent since early on, because I always look at where they need to be and not where they are. They have done everything early and can fend for themselves quite well. These dads are stuck in a time warp and don't want their kids to grow up. They remember when things were good, when the kids were little and they want to stay there mentally. I have pretty much decided that we will not marry until the kids are grown and gone. Too many issues to put up with and I've done that before and know how stressful it is for everyone. My XH's daughter was a mess and that was 9 years I won't get back. I'm sorry you all are dealing with this. It is funny to read, but not fun to deal with. Ignore what you can for your own sanity! Take long walks!

When DH and I were first married psuedo ss CTBB(Champagne Taste on a Beer Budget)was 6 and primarily living w/MIL. As I've written about before he ate with a baby fork in his fist. He also peed the bed. Well, we were dirt poor teenaged newlyweds ( I promise you we weren't trailer trash-just good Catholic kids!) and I had to go to the washing mat to do our laundry. So I told CTBB that he couldn't pee the bed at our house because we only had the time/money to go do our laundry once a week. And you know, he never did pee the bed at our house. I swear, kids will either raise up or go down to your expectations. I cuddled and loved on all my kids including CTBB but we as parents need to get them prepared as well to go out into that big old world out there. Boy, this writing has made me thirsty- time to go get a glass of kwee kwee!