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CantKeepDoingThis's picture

Seriously!!!!! How many times does SD15 have to be told the same thing over and over!!! Just a few weeks ago I posted that I had to unclog the sink by flushing hot water down it because SD15 poured sour milk down the drain (like chunks sour). I told her THEN...DO NOT POUR THE SOUR MILK DOWN THE DRAIN...TAKE THE WHOLE BOTTLE OUT TO THE TRASH!!! She has also been told several times since...NO TRASH ON THE COUNTER BY THE TRASH CAN...IF IT DOESN'T FIT IN THE TRASH CAN, WALK IT OUT TO THE TRASH AND TAKE THE TRASH OUT!!!

So, I hear SD15 running more water than usual, so I peek out to see what is going on. SD15 has clogged the sink AGAIN with sour milk, and there is the empty milk bottle on the counter next to the trash!!! Seriously, I wanted to scream, "Are you that fracking lazy and thick skulled?!?!?!?!" I AGAIN tell her...DO NOT POUR THE SOUR MILK DOWN THE DRAIN...TAKE THE WHOLE BOTTLE OUT TO THE TRASH...AND NO TRASH ON THE COUNTER BY THE CAN, IF IT DOESN'T FIT WALK IT OUT TO THE TRASH CAN AND TAKE THE TRASH OUT!!! She just rolls her eyes at me and puts the bottle down on the floor by the trash can! OMG!!!

DH and I are certainly going to have a talk when he gets home! The attitude of hers is one thing...that is ALL his to deal with. But when it comes to MY house...MY space...I have every right to open my mouth to whoever it is that doesn't care for it! Like I said, the way I see it, she is a tenant...and if I were renting her room out to someone, I would expect them to follow the same kitchen rules, and would say something to them if they didn't! I'm tired of being ignored when it comes to house rules! But I bet she expects DH to go running down to the bank to take out $75 for that guard camp she wants to go to in a few weeks! Yeah, if we ignore that, there would surely be hell to pay...or at least that is what SD15 would try to make us feel!

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

I'm sure she is doing it on purpose! But you know, it is one thing to just not take out the trash. That isn't going to bring on a big expense. Completely ignoring me with regards with what goes down the drains will cause a big expense!! We've already had to call out a plumber once since she has lived with us, and we are having drain problems already again! Over 10 years in this house, no problems...SD15 moves in, we start to have plumbing problems!!! I know for a fact she is putting lady products down the toilet when she is told not to (neither kind of lady product can go down the toilet, because we have a septic), because when the plumber came out last, he pulled out a big wad from the pipes...and I know I don't put my stuff down the toilet! SD15 forces food down the drains when she has been told multiple times to put food in the trash and take the trash out. I'm sure a good part of it is just plain laziness, as well! I mean, if she puts her lady products in the trash can, that is more often that she will have to empty her bathroom trash! Same with the food...means she will have to make a trip to the trash (even if trash isn't full, because then the rule is put it in a plastic shopping baggie and take it out so that it doesn't smell up the house). She never finishes her food, so that would mean daily she would have to walk out to the trash! But does she care that it costs no less than $300 to get the drain snaked? Oh hell no she doesn't! Like I said...over 10 years in this house with not a single plumbing issue. She's here 1 year, and we seem to be having regular plumbing issues! Definitely NOT a coincidence!

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

Ooooo...I like that idea. An hand her a roll of TP and tell her if she needs to use the restroom, there are plenty of trees and bushes back there...just make sure to avoid the poison oak! Our "back yard" is an acre...make her go as far back there as possible...LOL! And we don't have soft ground...very rocky....bwahahahaha!

Yosemite's picture

Honestly sounds like standard issue teenage B.S.
I can't tell you how many times I have been frustrated by having to repeat myself over and over. And teenagers are infamous for the attitude.
You may want to make your SD have to open the P trap and clean out the sour milk. Bet she doesn't do it again after that.

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

Except, this isn't my first rodeo...just the first one who has no respect for anyone or anything! Yeah...my bios had to be told things more than once, but it wasn't constant. And if it was something like don't put X down the drain because it would hurt the house, they actually listened. And if I told them, I didn't get eye rolls...an "I forgot" maybe...but not the disrespect of eye rolls!

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

Oh, SD15 got an earful when DH got home! Another example of how self centered she is! DH stopped to get food on the way home...I have all kinds of laundry to do, and was really feeling like a salad. So...DH comes home and after getting his stuff and the food, his hands are full. So, DH rings the doorbell. I'm in the bathroom, but figure that just maybe SD15 would get the door. I come out of the bathroom, and can hear SD15 at the kitchen sink with her cereal bowl. The binds over the sink are always open, and she could have seen DH's car plain as day in the driveway! Shoot, when I come out of my room (door right next to the kitchen) I can see through said window to DH's car! As I come out of my room, I catch SD15 running back to the TV room and literally leap onto the couch! I don't say a word to her, but as I let in DH (who has been standing there at the door the whole time this is going on) I make it a point to tell him that while I was on the bathroom when he rang the bell, SD15 couldn't be bothered to let him in when she was just a few steps from the door, but instead ran to the other end of the house back in front of the TV! He was NOT happy. She tried to say she didn't hear the bell, but there is truly no way she didn't...open concept with no walls between loud bell speaker and TV room and TV was not turned up loud!

Ended up throwing away most of her dinner, because DH thought she needed a salad, too...she tried to say it tasted funny (DH took a taste and there was nothing wrong with it). In the trash! Of course...healthy food!

She's now hiding out in her room because she lost control of the TV.

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

It wasn't groceries. He had bags of prepared food and drinks....he asked if he could stop and get food, and I asked for salad. The drinks weren't in a carrier either...the place didn't give him one!

Seriously...why defend SD15? Why couldn't she simply open the door for him! We live out in the country...mot like anyone ever comes to our door uninvited! She knows this! Just plain rude of her to not help her dad! Can't tell you how many times DH opens doors for SD15 and/or holds doors open when her hands are full, and she can't open a door for him?!

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

How do you suppose we "light a candle"? Do every single thing for her? We are talking about a person who treats EVERYONE like crap, but if she wants something, everyone better jump! A person who whines and complains if she is asked to do anything, but if she "needs" makeup or something, it better be the expensive stuff...grocery store makeup is never good enough! Really? Come on!

Let me add...she doesn't even have a chore list! Rule of this house is you take care of your own stuff! You dirty a dish, you rinse it and put it in the dishwasher. She isn't ever asked to do anyone else's dishes! It is supposed to be that if the dishwasher is clean and you need to puts something in it, you put the dishes away, but I have to make sure to empty it or she will just put her dirty dish in with the clean ones....and I have a clean/dirty indicator! The rule is if your trash doesn't fit in the trash, you take it out! Out of everyone in the house, she takes it out the least...would just rather pile the trash on the counter and let the next person take it out!

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

DH and I don't drink milk. I'm actually allergic to milk. BS19 hasn't had any milk this week yet...are with friends after school, so didn't have his after school cereal. But why does an adult have to check the milk? She is 15...not 5!

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

Oh, you mean about as disgusted as I am when I find SD15's bloody underwear on the floor of the hall bathroom (which is not her personal space, but the bathroom she uses) or in the hallway between the bathroom and SD15's room? You mean about as disgusted as I am when SD15 leaves half a glass of milk I'm the TV room overnight, or in her room for days until it smells up the room, and I get a good whiff of it when I have to wake her up in the morning (yeah vomit smell)! If you could see some of the things found in her room, you would realize she doesn't gross out easily!

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

As soon as BS19 leaves for college, I'll start buying the half. Since we only go to the store one a week, the half just isn't enough. But it seems to be cycles....if I get the half, SD15 suddenly decides she wants to drink milk every day, and BS19 will come home from work and want a bowl of cereal to find no milk. I buy a gallon, SD15 suddenly goes into one of her super low calorie/starvation modes and there is too much milk. When BS19 goes to college, I'm only getting the half.

But that doesn't totally solve the problem, because the problem is she doesn't care and doesn't follow rules or instructions! If it isn't milk, she's forcing a half eaten bowl of ramen down the sink or something, it is some other trash she leaves on the counter by the trash can, she still leaves her crap all over the TV room, and she still treats us like we are here only to serve her! She won't even talk to DH unless she wants something! He will try to ask her about her day or something, and it's like "just leave me alone"! She doesn't want any kind of relationship with him, she just wants him to be her taxi and ATM! I could care less about her not wanting a relationship with me, but I want to smack her when I see how she treats DH...and him when I see h let her getting away with it!

Orange County Ca's picture

Buy a smaller container of milk. If she runs out early its hardly the end of the world. It's not like she's going to go thirsty and dehydrate fainting on the way to the TV room. In a way you're enabling her. She's effectively an adult when it comes to milk let her go without and if it means you two don't have cereal milk eat it without. So what? No plumber.

She's a typical teenager who on the scale of normalcy is deep to the lazy side. You are among the ranks of parents who have a kid that needs constant reminders. I definitely like the idea of putting her dirty clothing, bloody or not, on her pillow. If she doesn't make her bed just toss them on the bed and close the door.

Another option is to trash it and make sure she's doesn't get replacements. When she gets to her last pair make her wash it in the bathroom wash basin.

To directly answer your question "How many times"? Answer: As many as it takes.

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

It totally amazes me what we consider as "normal teenager behavior" these days! I mean, as a teen:

1. There was NO laying around on the couch in front of the TV...you weren't even allowed to use your parents' TV without permission!

2. There was NO leaving your stuff laying around the house.

3. There was NO attitude like you were running stuff! The parents ran stuff, and that was made clear (even if it meant you got slapped for trying to run stuff).

There were stiff consequences back in the day for not doing what you were supposed to do! Truth is, it is parenting that has gotten lazy...kids have been too enabled!

Was talking to one of the other mom's the other day. Her son had been arrested for pot possession just this past Saturday night. She didn't rush to get him...wanted him to learn a bit of a lesson. When she finally did go get him, his response was, "What the hell are YOU doing here? I'm a grown ass man, and I can take care of myself!!!" Her response, "Well, if you are such a 'grown ass man', that means you don't need the cell phone WE pay for, the truck WE pay for, or the roof over your head that WE pay for!!" Yup, he is such a "grown ass man" at just a few months past his 18th birthday, that his grown ass now is living with some friend because he got thrown out on his ear with just a bit of his clothing! No cell phone, no truck! Sorry, but THAT is parenting!

just.his.wife's picture

Take the trash bag+ the emtpy stinking milk container and dump it on her bed.

Bonus points if you leave the cap off the milk container and let it stink up her room

Calypso1977's picture

if you buy milk once per week, how is it so chunky to the point it clogs the drain? are you buying milk that's nearly out of date already? i buy skim milk and i usually dig to the back for one that has at least a weeks' expiration and then its usually good for a few days after due to no fat content.

CantKeepDoingThis's picture

Disrespect by my bios was never tolerated! While SD15 has NEVER received a spanking, and rarely has privileges taken away, my bios know these two things well! They weren't perfect kids...no kid is...and if they are, chances are high that they are hiding something!

Late in her teens, BD23 was hanging with the wrong people and getting in trouble! She lost her bedroom door, she lost her phone and computer, and when she thought she was grown enough to get in my face an yell at me, I smacked her! When she was 18 and thought she was "grown" and could do what she wanted (including drinking), she was given ONE chance...I made her sign a contract of what was expected (and no drinking was included in that contract) and what would happen if she didn't follow that contract! BD23 was caught drinking again (went to wake her up one morning, and she was drunker than drunk), and I had to do the hardest thing I ever had to do as a parent...tell her to pack up her crap and leave! I bawled for days! My heart wanted to tell her to come back home, but my head reminded me that I had to follow through or she would never get it! Within 6 months, she had gotten it, and came home. She went back on her own and finished up high school (after realizing that she could not get a job without a diploma), got a job, and got out on her own...and our relationship today is great! Had I just sat by and done nothing, who knows where she would be today...who knows where BS19 would be today if he hadn't seen me come down on his sister for being a butt head!

People need to get away from this "child centered" crap and get back to real, tough love parenting! We don't always have to be the most popular with our kids! We are not intended to be their friends! We are supposed to equip them with the skills they need for life!

DH is doing no favors for SD15 by "showing her grace" (as he puts it)! He is teaching her that it is okay to treat him and everyone else like total crap! He isn't equipping her with life skills, and she will be in for a very rude awakening when she gets out in the world...if she ever leaves home!

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SD15 was going on and on last night asking about WHEN she was going to get a car and telling us what she wanted for her first car! I'm sitting there thinking, "Are you for frackin' real?" BD23 didn't get a car while she lived at home...doing things that started questioning my trust shortly after she turned 16, and things only got worse...sorry, can't follow simply rules...no car. BS19 didn't get a car until right before he turned 18 because I wanted to make sure he wasn't going to flake out like BD23...wanted to make sure he was trustworthy and mature enough (thank goodness he didn't flake out like his older sister).

SD15 has already been caught drinking, smoking (pot and otherwise), lying on a regular basis, and she can't follow simple house rules (like no trash on the counter, and don't put any kind of solid food-stuffs down the drain), and she thinks she is just going to get a car handed to her at 16? Just because the law says a person can get their license and drive at 16 doesn't mean they should! Wish more parents got this! No, they have their heads up their butt being too concerned about lessening their parental responsibility, and just hand a kid a car who shouldn't have one. I'm so afraid this will be DH! I still have time to work on him in this area, at the very least! I seriously do not feel putting her in a car at 16 is a good idea! I made it a point to share the other mom's situation with DH, not only as an example of what you have to do sometimes (which he knows), but so he knows that pot is still readily available out here in the country! If he think SD15 isn't still stoking it up at times, he has his head in the sand! There were several boys involved in that arrest Saturday...another mom I know, her daughter was dating one of the other boys, and let me tell you, when I say WAS I mean WAS, as mom and dad put a stop to that after the arrest! Again...parenting!

Then there is also the history of SD15 not working for anything. I regularly make sure that SD15 hasn't even come close to working off that $200 in makeup that was bought for her toward the end of last year....and it has been months! I know if she has a car, her primary concern will be hanging with friends...not getting a job! Who do you think she will come running to for insurance and gas? DH doesn't have anything left in his half of the money to put gas in a car for her, and I certainly refuse to let my money be used!

Rags's picture

Piling the trash on the bed of the snarky Skid makes a point. If she insists on continuing this crap start putitng the piled trash on her bed. No matter how rank and nasty. Put a garbage bag next to the pile on her bed and a note clearly referring to the several discussions you have had regarding this issue and inform her that if it continues she will lose her phone, makeup, clothing, etc... until she catches a clue.

Most of all, have fun. You might as well enjoy your career as an Evil Sparent. }:)