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Mothers day dillemma

Stormyweather's picture

Its not totally related to skids and blended families however my mother (who has never met my new husband or step son) recently turned down my 50th birthday party invitation citing she was too busy, had to look after the dogs and also had to go to my cousins wedding a weekend or so later....so cant make it interstate to celebrate my special occasion. The truth is she disapproves of my relationship so coming over would have meant staying in my house with my blended family....any hoo...we surprised everyone that night by announcing to everyone that we got married that afternoon...like it was a mini elopement but didnt go away for a wedding but got married on the hill top of our local beach. It was beautiful and very special and topped off with a wonderful fun night for my 50th!!

Now my mother isnt talking to me. She hasnt publically acknowledged our wedding photos on face book or even "liked" a photo on my wall....I sent her some personal photos with an explanation of our elopement and it was ignored for 2 days before I finally got a "thank you"...thats all! My sister was slow to do the same but at least we recently received a wedding card in the mail which was lovely. My brother has been ignoring me for 18 months and long story short, I ended up blocking him as I felt humiliated one last time (he ignored my 50th invitation too)....Im guessing my mothers nose is out of joint because I didnt tell her about us getting married...no one knew and it was just us and our two witnesses which were required by law to be there. Everyone has honored our decision for having an intimate wedding ceremony due to the rough time weve had with BM. SS15 and his other 2 skids. My mother has made it known she dosent approve of my choice of partner (and his baggage he has brought to our relationship) so hence my reluctance to say any thing to her in the first place anyway. I did message her the day before to let her know but she just "wished me all the ebst",....no sincere message or kisses.....it read cold like in its message. And if I dont call her....she dosent call me so its like the past 2 years its been my responsibility to keep our relationship going.

So Mothers day is coming this weekend....Ive received no call, card or acknowledgement during the last month from her since my 50th and wedding. She will be expecting me to call her and send her a card. I dont want to. I feel so angry at how he has made this about her and hasnt honored our decision. Its not like its our first time getting married...its both our second marriages and this time we both insisted its between US and no one else as our families arent young and needing to be blended under one roof so its even more significant about it involving just us two. the ceremony lasted no more than 10 mins but it was still beautiful none the less and what photos I had taken, were stunning (which I have shared).

Should I contact her and make the first move? I asked her to give me a call when I shared my photos with her ...keeping it all light and airy...but nothing....but she will post photos all the time on her face book page about her grandsons (who are my brothers twin 5 year old boys)....I feel like she is punishing me for daring to do something without her knowing and she feels left out in my decision...but do you blame me when both her and my step father (before he died) ripped me a new one over my choice in who I was with and who is now my husband! I was so shocked at how they were telling me how to live my life that all I could do was walk outside muttering for god sake mum...Im nearly bloody 50 yaers old!!

Its also her big milestone 70th birthday coming up in mid may as well and I dont want to attend (should I be invited that is!!)

Any advice?

onthefence2's picture

I "eloped" for my wedding to my ex and my sister and mom were there. So I get the thinking. But I wished that my mom were as vocal as yours because it might have stopped me from making the mistake I made. She knew something wasn't right, but followed the "as long as you're happy" idea. Yes, I was in my late 20s, but still needed that input (clearly wasn't seeing straight). Your mom is doing what good moms do. She might be wrong, but she wants to protect you. It doesn't matter how old kids get, moms are still moms. Don't do anything you would regret if she were to die the next day. So you will have to take the high road and love her despite the hurtful things she does. Send her a card. If you can't stomach a phone call, a card should be enough. She might need some time to accept your decision, or she may not ever. You can be her daughter without her accepting your husband. It's sort of like sparents not accepting skids, isn't it?

moeilijk's picture

I can understand your comment, onthefence, as moms do worry and want the best for their kids. But I don't think that the OP has to accept bad behaviour along with the love and concern. If a mom can't control her worries or behaviour and chooses to cut-off her adult child by refusing to join her at celebrations or acknowledge her choice of partner, I think the OP is wise to allow that mom lots of distance. No need to chase after someone who will just be cruel.

Stormyweather's picture

My mother has never met my now husband... It's pure criticism and judgement on her part. There's no warmth in her words of concern ( he has brought no assets to the msrriage) other than issues (vindictive BM difficult step kids etc) but over the last 5 years we have worked hard at handling them to be were we are now which was ready for marriage. Personally after all the critism from her, I'm wanting to break away from needing her approval of everything I do.

Dosent being 50 account for being able to make my own decisions? Do I still need my mothers approval?

Disneyfan's picture

No matter how old you are, parents don't want to see you hurt. If the man you love is the source of your pain, then it's only natural that your parents will view him in a negative light.

Sure we get to make our own decisions, but that doesn't mean our parents will share in that happiness. Even if they say/do the right things, that doesn't mean they aren't giving their new son in law the side eye. Chances are they want to kick him square in the ass for not protecting you from their bratty kids and crazy exwife.

Stormyweather's picture

Perhaps you are right but the thing is they only have a one sided view of things and our relationship... In the beginning I would ring mum and discuss my frustrations but living interstate she never saw us as a couple nor could she reasonably ascertain how good we were or how happy we were... Only hearing my disgruntlements... After a couple of nasty comments I stopped sharing... She never asks how is my life is or how are her grand kids anyway so our relationship has since faded to the point that if I don't ring, we don't talk and all we talk about her is her and her life. She never enquires about my partner or be genuinely wanting to be involved in knowing what's going on in her daughters life ( as I am with mine ... Without judgemt)...

We live thousands of kms away so our relationship is now strained as she thinks I've hurt her not sharing my news but announcing it to her like I did for everyone else but I knew she wouldn't approve so once again kept my life and it's details to myself. It's not like she would have been happy for me... Or cared...other than pass judgement. Nope that hurts too much and life is short. Why is it my role to maintain what is a one sided relationship? She invalidates everything I say anyway so my opinion is always steam rolled.

Ninji's picture

I have the same relationship with every member of my family. No one calls, text or comes to see me. I have to put forth all the work.

I'm done with that. I didn't call either of my brothers or my mom on their birthdays last month and I don't plan to call my mom on Mother's Day. SO and I got engaged about two months ago and I haven't told her yet because she doesn't like SO or the Skids even though she has only met the for less than 5 minutes.

When I was calling my mom she would only talk about herself too and never asked about my life. I'm done chasing after people who don't really like me and only pretend to be apart of my life when I make the effort and it's all about them.

I don't know what advices to give you. You can contact your mom and try to explain why her actions hurt you but it doesn't sound like she is going to be receptive or you can live your life without her drama.

jumanji's picture

It seems as though your Mom/family have only heard negatives about your partner/spouse - why would it surprise you that there is little enthusiasm towards your union?

AllySkoo's picture

I can see why you're hurt - it's hard not to have your parents' support, hard when they're not happy for you. But.... I can see where your mom is coming from. She's never met the man, you said, and you basically used to complain about him all the time. So her view of him is pretty skewed.

Let me tell you about my story, which would be sort of from your mom's perspective. My SD is 18. She just got married. No one in her entire family was invited. Her H is mentally abusive, and works hard to isolate her from her family, with a fair degree of success. I believe it's only a matter of time before he becomes physically abusive (he has a prior conviction for domestic assault from a previous GF). There is nothing we can do. She's an adult, she "loves" him, and she's allowing him (for now) to control her. She KNOWS we don't like him, although we've never said so. She knows we don't approve. And yes, it's made the relationship a bit strained. I've actually hidden her feeds on FB (not defriended her) because it's too painful to read. We can't - CANNOT - pretend that we think she's made a good choice. She hasn't. On the flip side, she also knows we love her. She knows that we will always be 100% on her side. She knows that if (when) it does all go to hell that she has someone to call, any time.

Now, I AM NOT saying your DH is an abuser! But I'm telling you that if you told your mom about the problems you were having with this guy, and she has never met him to make any sort of impression of him, that she's formed a picture in her head of a guy who's no good for you, who WILL, eventually, hurt you. And there's nothing she can do about it. That's really hard for a parent to watch. All she can do is what she's been doing - keep things cordial, be polite, and wait for the trainwreck.

So, assuming that your DH isn't the horror that my SD's H is, here's what you do. Yes, keep in touch with your mom. Send her a card on Mother's Day. Text her funny stories about her grandkids. If you talk to her on the phone, talk about work, the kids, maybe throw in ONE story that shows your DH in a good light. If possible, take one of those issues you told her about before you got married and show how your DH has fixed it. It's going to take time, and you may never fix the "first impression" you gave her of your DH, but the more you can SHOW (not tell) her that he makes you happy, the better your chances.

Stormyweather's picture

This is exactly what I've been trying to do since that night my parents verbally attacked me telling me how horrible my partner at the time was ( and they had never met him and because he came with baggage) but it wasn't said out of love and concern but criticsm and judgement... I was horrified and hurt to the core. I vowed and declared then not to share.. But there's been ongoing fall out due to me now " not sharing" but more proof that this man has changed me ( mum said howmuch I've changed one phone call after ignoring me for months) Because I'm no longer in her back pocket and sharing every detail looking for her advice) I stopped because of boundaries and it too is being used against me. So instead of honouring my boundaries, I'm being critised more by them because I'm no longer easily manipulated to do what she wants me to do.and my family can't either so they are shutting me out as a result!

Sick hey?

hereiam's picture

I would probably send her a card but it would be more of a humorous one, rather than a mushy, sentimental one. But if you truly don't want to, that is your choice.

I do kind of understand where she is coming from but to completely ignore you is a little over the top.

My DH and I do not approve of my SD's boyfriend but my DH still talks to her like he did before. He is not going to punish her by cutting her out of his life just because of the boyfriend.

Stormyweather's picture

Exactly!! And besides, as adults don't we judge who we like for ourselves? I mean this woman hasn't even met him!

She just dosent approve of the second blended family thing ( he has 3 children 15, 18 and 21) and yeah... It's been hard but we have got there and sorted shit out. Besides, who made her the relationship police? I never had a say ion who she married?

Stormyweather's picture

And I bet your mother is still speaking to you irrespective of your decision. I'm sure that's the normal way!! Lol

ChiefGrownup's picture

My advice is be the person you expect yourself to be and want to be. If you want to think of yourself as gracious and magnanimous then treat Mother's Day like you normally would. Let the recent wound die on its own. If it will.

Having said that, I can tell you that I wanted to be the kind of person who did not call the police on her own mother. But I got over it. Eventually. Now all I want to be is the kind of person who never has to see her or have her know where I live ever again. Working hard on maintaining that goal.

But if your mother isn't that bad and she is still important to you in some way, stop thinking you'll ever get her approval and drop your expectations. Just let the drama float past in the backstream like vapor from a steam engine. Charge forward with your happy engine. She can thank you for your flowers you send or she can throw them in the trash -- you don't care. You sent them to be the person you wanted to be.

Stormyweather's picture

I take your point about being the bigger person and sending flowers and that's gone through my head... But why do I feel like this is what she expects me to do? To come running after her begging for her approval? I had one vicious text from my sister many years ago ( the night I stopped sharing anything as my parents verbally attacked me " out of love" cough cough... It hurt me so bad I vowed and declared from that night onwards I would not be sharing anything with them that could be used against me... So my sister sends me a vile abusive text ( she wasn't even there that night) demanding that I aplogise because I hurt mum!!

It's always my role to apologise for upsetting everyone particully my mother irrespective of whether I needed to or not. My sister clearly got mothers side of what happened that night ( I bet she couldn't get on the phone quick enoygh to tell her).

I calmly replied that if mum is unhappy with what I've done then she can call me to discuss things... My sister was furious I wasn't involving her and mum never did call. I knew she wouldn't as she knows she over stepped the boundaries that night but prefers instead to make it my fault.

The wedding/50th birthday incident is yet another example of turning things around to punish me. And I'm expected to come running seeking approval. It's the family pattern so no.. No flowers but perhaps An e card.

ChiefGrownup's picture

Nooooooooo! My point is NOT "be the bigger person!" No nein nyet!

My words were to be taken at face value. If YOU want to say to yourself "I'm all gracious and stuff" -- go ahead, knock yourself out. Do that for YOURSELF if you WANT TO.

But if you're beyond that AS I MYSELF REACHED DECADES AGO then don't let anyone make you feel you have to "be the bigger person!" FUCK THAT SHIT.

We all know there are terrible mothers in the world, we see them in the news, and we deal with them with our various BMs of our skids. But it's too hold-on and all special glowy soft-focus lens on our own. Or people THINK we should do that. I'm saying if you take a cold hard look at your mother's role in your life and it's shit painting fuckery then own that and GET IT OUT OF YOUR LIFE.

Oh, my blood pressure went up. Sorry I apparently muddled my message before. I only read your first line in your response and had to start typing. Now I'll read the rest of what you just wrote. To be clear: CGU says you have ALREADY been the "bigger person" by letting her know your address which is more than CGU allows her own mother.

ETA: Ok, I just read it. Yes, you are in a family script where you are the goat. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PLAY THAT ROLE ANYMORE. See above!

IamexhaustedSM's picture

I would mail her a card, take a second to call and be done. What mom does not acknowledge her daughter's 50th b-day? I would have been the one planning the party!

I have always tried to take the high road because I felt better about me. I have had my issues with my mom and some days it is really hard but I think of it this way. My family dies of heart attacks by 62. My mom is now 65. Her days could be numbered and I will do what I feel I should do so I will have no regrets when that day comes. It really is about me, my feelings, and my future. Karma already hit my mom smack in the face. i do not need to rub it in.

If your mom is vile and not giving of the love she should have for her child and makes it all about her then turn away. Do what you feel in your heart is right for you.

Congrats on your wedding!

Stormyweather's picture

To clarify a few points.. By referring to her daughter I meant me... I'm not in a lesbian relationship. I stopped sharing information as my concerns ( the ones you norms,ly share with your mother over a coffee) were being used against me.. What I thought was loving concern fir me turned into vindictive judgmental criticsim. So I stopped sharing and now she never asks me how I am and I'm expected to keep the relationship going. If I dint call, we don't takk. How is that even a proper mother daughter relationship. There's no genuine care for me nor any follow up on how things are... So no wonder she thinks things are still testy with my now husband and his son. But seriously, who made her the husband police. She isn't interested in my life, what's happening with my own daughters ( her grandkids) let alone taking an interest in us now that we are married. She disproves and that's it. End of story. I tried to explain our reason for wanting to elope and I did tell her many years ago when my sister got marrie we would elope as the second time round is more intimate and all the regalia isn't needed ( for us)

So I feel she is punishing me by withdrawing her love. It's her way of passively aggressively turning away from me to make a point. Even if I had of shared anything with her, she wasn't invited to the ceremony... No one was. It's our perogative. She's acting like I did it thus way to orchestrate cutting only her out. But this is how it was growing up... She would withdraw her approval / love if I didn't do what was expected, and I grew up believing I was unworthy and not loveable unless I pleased others before myself. This is a time I made a decision to please me and see, she can't be happy for me ( us). If she actually got to know my husband she would fu d out he is a great guy who is loving, amazing and caring. He has virtually renovated my home but when I try and show pictures of what he has done, she turns her nose up. Sometimes I'm wondering if she is jealous? But either way, she is determined to not like him and therefore not approve of him.

But I take one posters thought about "tit for tat" .... Not cool. and my mother going low profile? That's not to look gracious from her part but that's to punish me for daring to do something she dosent approval of! Everyone else has been wonderfully happy for us ( even the way we kept it a secret) except her and my bother and his wife ( the golden child)

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I appreciate your answers and it has been helpful.

ChiefGrownup's picture

If you're ready to let go of her, you will be fine. I promise.

If you're not ready to let go of her, don't think you're going to teach this old dog a new trick. She's the way she is. You are not the golden child. You could marry the head of NASA and she still wouldn't be impressed. So just please yourself. Do you WANT to do any gesture for Mother's Day? Do it. But then let go the minute you make the purchase or hit send. Just say your part is done. You're very pleased with yourself. Don't give her reception of it a. single. thought.

But if you feel like not going through a stupid rigamarole for a woman whose love for you is a moving target then don't! I have not known when Mother's Day is on the calendar for decades. But now I have a fabulous mother in law I'm re-discovering the holiday. It's a joy this time.

Make yourself happy. Do not give her response or her expectations one single little thought.

Dizzy's picture

She sounds like a narcissist. As does your brother & sister--or at the very least, their orbit your mom so they don't become her target. Sheesh! Send mom a card for Mother's Day, and for her birthday, if she doesn't shape up. And, if it would be of interest to you, check out "Will I Ever Be Good Enough" by Dr. Karyl McBride, which is a book for daughters of narcissist mothers.

Congrats on your marriage and your 50th!! Don't let your family pull you off that cloud you're on!

Stormyweather's picture

Thank you CGU, Dizzy and Cat for responding to my individual posts and yes I agree she is a narcissist who has her enablers in my siblings and I am unfortunately in the scape goat role! I was in total denial about my family dynamics previously but when I divorced ( 2009) and have since grown in myself in my journey to heal, I also discovered how toxic my family were towards me, and how conditional their love for me was... I started looking for answers and yes, feel strongly that she is narsassitic and my siblings are her flying monkeys. I just have real deep ingrained response programming and feel guilt every single time I put myself first. My role is to please her and when I don't, I soon cop it by being frozen out.

I ended up sending an e card on face book via IM. I realised I'm not ready to fully Chuck it away but I will be distancing myself and luckily I live 1000's km away ( interstate). She replied " lovely did you have a nice Mother's Day" .... The first question she has asked me in a while about my life.... And I replied that we did and went out for lunch ( with my 3 gorgeous daughters) and unfortunately I'm in bed again as I've had gastro these last 2 days and she replied " sorry to hear that you are unwell and better days ahead" WTF! Now she's acting nice to me as she knows Ive been distancing myself too and won't tolerate the bullshit treatment. Either way, I'm still weary and will still keep my distance and it get sucked back in. Thanks for your support xxx

moeilijk's picture

Don't worry about her behaviour now. Of course she is playing nice. You shocked her by not falling into line and begging her for her approval. You were just nice and polite, and she doesn't know what to make of that. At first she will respond nicely and you will have some nice exchanges. Almost ideal. But then she will overstep and you will have to slam down a boundary very hard. She might ask a question that is just too intrusive, or make a comment about someone else that makes you uncomfortable. I suggest you start planning now what response you will give.

I have learned to say, Oh my, why do you ask? And not answer.

Stormyweather's picture

Good thinking! She normally just invalidates my every feeling, thoughts and opinions and critises and judges... Or calls me names.. But it's said like in conversation and of course it now makes me angry so I'm defensive... Sigh.. She just pushes my buttons.

ChiefGrownup's picture

Hang up when she calls you a name. If she calls back, don't answer. Let at least a couple weeks go by. Next time you have contact and she says "You hung up on me!" you say, "is that what you thought? the call dropped/battery died. Well, someone's at the door, I've gotta go!"

Wash rinse repeat till she's trained like Shamu to watch her mouth.

Stormyweather's picture

If we even get to talk as she is expecting me to chase.. It's her MO

And it's more subtle than out and out name calling like bitch or arse hole... It's like when she calls me princess when I'm trying to explain what's happened so it's more like its a put down and what she has called me has passed in conversation and I'm too slow to pick up putting in the boundary.....

Seriously? I have to learn how to undo my programming of "that its ok for my mother to say and do what ever she wants" but I cant. I'm expected to tolerate her behaviour " as its done out of love"!! I've believed this all my life and I'm struggling slowly to undo all the damage its caused. I'm a mess when she puts me down and I just wear it and then hate her afterwards for it! I hate the way I'm helpless around her. I'm an independent grown woman who is successful in life ( although you wouldn't hear it from her lips that I am) and me feeling like a kid every time we talk is right there all the time. Blah! I hate it.

But I seriously take on board what you are suggesting and will even go as far as to write it out and display the wording of my predicted response so I can practice it and it goes into my memory. Xx

ChiefGrownup's picture

I understand, I really do. These habits are hard to change, especially when there are such primal emotions lurking under the surface like hungry sharks.

I also suggest getting a special egg timer that sets to about 5 minutes. When you're on a call with her, start with "Oh! I only have a minute but wanted to say hello, June makes me think about those xyz trees you have, are they blooming now? Oh! Isn't that wonderful!" Tiny safe chitty chat proceeds--then the egg timer is up! No matter who is talking, just cut it off "Yikes, I didn't see the time, I really have to go, I'll have to hear/tell the rest of that story next time."

Never talk past the egg timer. Make sure the timer is less than the amount of time it usually takes her to get a full head of steam and emit a "princess" insult. Don't tell her anything personal or anything that makes you vulnerable. Pick a few safe topics --maybe tape the list to the egg timer--and stick to those at all costs and never ever defy the egg timer!

Stormyweather's picture

Definitely taking this on board. At my age I'm sick of feeling emotionally manipulated and seek acceptance of who I am. If they can't accept me and love me for me ( and not the compliant version of me) well I'm better off without them. I've akready blocked my brother... I got sick of him ignoring my attempts to reach out. He probably dosent even know it!

I have the love and support of my husband who understands the toxicity of having a narc mother too ( his is way worse!!) and my mother blames him for changing me ... I have changed since I met him as I have grown in my awareness of what I will and won't tolerate. I no longer tolerate their bad behaviour of me and I guess it's easier to blame him instead of themselves. He says I have changed as I'm growing into myself he tells me... We all do when we experience a major event of divorcing after 24 years being married, I'm not the same person I was when I married my first husband at the age of 21.

Stormyweather's picture

I've been doing obligatory calls for years... The joy of calling her is long gone. I'm at a different stage now and feel it's too damaged to continue pretending. But thanks for your insight as it helps just having your support. Xx