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SS too affectionate? What do you think?

sarebear's picture

Hi, I feel my SS11 has an unhealthy relationship with his BM. He is with us half time but when he is with us, here is what I have experienced:

-He talks to his BM on the phone all the time and his tone with her is like he's talking to a best friend ("dude" "sucka" etc). They talk about video games, he calls her whenever there is something going on he disagrees with at our house. He talks kind of in a baby talk voice when he says goodbye "I love you." He doesn't really have any friends and never talks to anyone but her on the phone.

-He texts with her a lot and yes, I've snooped. He texts to her half truths or exaggerations about what is going on at our house. His texts are often extremely affectionate. "I love you more every day." "Till death do us part, I will love you." Things like that. Here replies are saying how wonderful he is and how she loves him too.

-When my DH or I give him hugs, they are not really full on hugs on his part. My DH tells him he loves him and often he doesn't really reply but with his mother he says it all the time, almost to excess.

-One night we all at a school performance (we did not sit near BM of course) but I noticed he was sitting with her with his arm around her (almost in a possessing way). I had to leave a little early and saw them together again and he wasn't watching the performance, he was talking to her, playing with her hair and still had his arm around her.

I just think it's a bit much, especially at his age. It doesn't seem cute anymore, it's getting creepy to me. I'm all for being affectionate with your kids but I think she is and letting him go overboard.

I worry that he is unusually attached to her and that will damage his already mostly non existent social life. Plus, if he does ever have a girlfriend, I wonder if BM will lose that affection and be hurt by that. BM doesn't have anyone and I'm afraid she is letting him be the man of the house and her best friend, etc.

RedWingsFan's picture

Oh he's her mini husband. That's obvious that they have an inappropriate relationship. If he's saying things a lover would say "Til death do us part" to her and she's eating it up, she's only encouraging him to keep treating her that way. It's very creepy and until SHE puts a stop to it, he's only going to keep at it and eventually get worse. He'll be extremely jealous of any man she dates and try to drive them away so he can have her all to himself. He'll plant himself in the middle of them physically any chance he can. He'll turn obsessively protective over her and he'll be the only man in her life because he'll push any others away.

It's the same way SD14 was with her dad. She thought it was going to be the two of them forever. He got an apartment after moving out and invited SD to help decorate and pick out furniture. He took her on "dates" to movies and dinner. It was the two of them for a long time before I came along. She was his mini wife. They always did everything together and had special "daddy daughter saturdays" where it was the two of them all day doing fun stuff together alone. She held his hand in a lover's hand hold (fingers interlaced), sat on his lap constantly, wouldn't let him out of her sight, followed him even to the bathroom! Tried spooning with him on the floor, her butt in his crotch, grabbing his arm and throwing it over her body, holding his hand fingers interlaced. They looked and behaved like a "couple". It was DISGUSTING. He felt she became extra clingy after the divorce and was just trying to make her more secure, but in reality, he was feeding her insecurities.

If BM likes the attention she's getting from her son, she's likely to stop. You can google inappropriate relationships between son/mother and forward them to her if you have that kind of communication with her. She's only hindering his independent growth as a boy.

Queeny's picture

You could always hotline it. Just remain annonymous. Maybe she'll get the point. You never know if something else could be going on!

BSgoinon's picture

I agree that that is over the top affection.

I worry about this with my SS as well. I blame it on BM because she uses him as an emotional crutch. My SS isn't as physically affectionate, but he does exessively tell her that he loves her (like multiple times in a row) and is always overly concerned about her emotional well being. He NEVER tells DH that he loves him... EVER. We, of course tell him and he will say in response. But it is never initiated by SS.

Funny you mention this today. It is something that has been bothering me the past couple of days.

There is a name for this behavior. I can't remember what it is though.

sarebear's picture

Yes, that's the same for us. The "love you" is never initiated either. He's reciprocate but not really that enthusiastically.

How old is your SS? Mine doesn't have any friends except for one in another town that he sees only occasionally.

It has bothered me for some time now but when I saw them together (which I never really have before)- it completely freaked me out. It was totally like she was his girlfriend. I have an older son that was affectionate with me but by that age, it had really tapered off. He would still hug me and say he loved me but that's as far as it went.

Kes's picture

SS11 is undoubtedly in an inappropriately enmeshed relationship with the BM, engineered entirely by her. When he is old enough to have a girlfriend, BM will probably make him feel extremely guilty about this, and it will not go well.

It is extremely unhealthy for both of them, but she as an adult, is in charge and has a choice whether to behave like this or not. Poor SS11 doesn't, not really, and this is going to be disastrous for him, even more, when he hits puberty.

oldone's picture

I watched a friend do this with her son. She divorced when the boy was about 3. He is now in his 40s. She has never remarried or even had a boyfriend. She is very attractive, well educated, great job. There's no reason for her to have spent decades alone.

And the son has had 3 divorces and no children. It does not have to be physical incest for it to be inappropriate. He's living with her yet again in a tiny little house.

BSgoinon's picture

EMOTIONAL INCEST, that's the phrase I was looking for...

And these moms just think it is "normal" for a boy love his mommy like that :sick:

sarebear's picture

Thanks all for your replies. I thought it was inappropriate but sometimes I wonder if my feelings toward them are a little extreme. I feel annoyed by mostly everything they do.

I have an older son and I think if he had been doing that to me (sitting with his arm around me and playing with my hair) I would have stopped it for sure.

hismineandours's picture

Gross. My ds is 13-I cant imagine him saying or texting those sorts of things to me unless he was trying to be funny! He is a fairly affectionate boy as well-he does hug me and such-tells me he loves me-but often it is in a sorta joking way. that way he can maintain his coolness.

BSgoinon's picture

If ANY of my kids said something like that to me, my response would be "what do you want?".

ThatGirl's picture

SS15 is like this with both of his parents. It's totally f'ing creepy. He is a mini-wife in both house *gag*