Stepdaughter
Hi to my fellow stepmothers,
I need some advice on an issue I have with my stepdaughter and husband.
My husband and I have been married for just over 1year. I have 2 children a 10 year old daughter and 7 year old son, they stay with us for a week every fortnight. My husband has a 15 year old daughter that wants very little to do with him or me mainly because of her mother. She has been poisoned by her mother and alienated her father. My husband tries to catch up with her and she will do so 95%'of the time providing that I'm not there.
My husband longs to see his daughter and sees that anytime is better that no time at all. He's trying to stay connected with her during her last years of school and then has said that when she is an adult the decision will be hers as to whether or not she wants anything to do with him.
While we were dating I didn't have anything to do with him or his daughter on the weekends that he had her. It was like he was in a bubble and nothing else existed, this was very difficult for me.
The issue that has prompted me to seek advice from other step parents is that he and his daughter are heading away for a week in the June/July holidays without me. I feel that he is rewarding her bad behaviour by taking her away and feel like she is winning the battle and is trying to put a wedge between us which is ridiculous because he spends 99% of his time with me and my children. It feels as though he has another women on the side and I'm concerned that he will forget about me while he is away. I really need some advice on this problem. I know that if I keep making an issue about this it will put a strain on our relationship. I also don't know what is ahead with my two children in their teenage years.
Many thanks
Bec
i feel your pain. what your
i feel your pain. what your husband is doing is showing just how important his children are by putting you down. when dh wants to see sds, he picks fights with me so he can leave the house alone to see them.
not all counselors understand the dynamics of the stepfamily. make sure your counselor sees your point of view.
I guess the question is, Can
I guess the question is, Can you live with this? If not, then you gotta fight for your position in your marriage.
The problem with us stepmothers is that we've been programmed to believe we are "wicked" if we do anything to make our darling stepchildren the least bit unhappy. But guess what? Some of these spoiled entitled brats NEED to be made unhappy. Wicked stepmothers might just be the best parents they have ever had.
Society in general needs to get over this child worship thing. In out home and marriage, if I'm not invited neither of us go. We are a pair... a team. We have set that precedent because down the road we don't want to run into the "You're not invited to graduation but Daddyyy is..." Or, "I want you at my wedding but not Katie Lee..." OH HELL NO.
If my husband wants me he's going to have to treat me with honor and respect just like he promised in his wedding vows. Otherwise, I will walk away. I am a damned good woman and he knows it. He does NOT want to lose me. Somehow you've got to make your husband see that you're worth keeping and worth treating like the #1 woman in his life. I could rant about this all day long. Gee whiz, what's wrong with these men???
I'm having a similar issue
I'm having a similar issue with my bf. I just don't get these parents who say "my kids will always come first." I hated seeing that on dating sites but now I know what it really means. Thanks for the warning! LOL
I ignored all the red flags in the beginning because other than the child and my bf's parenting, we are perfect for each other. It's just a matter of figuring out how much I'm willing to put up with and how much he is willing to change his behavior.
Are YOU getting a vacation with dh? Or is he taking her on the only vacation he gets? That matters a TON.
That seems... weird. I
That seems... weird. I dunno, I suppose I could see some scenarios where DH and one of the SDs might go off without me. If they, say, wanted to go look at a college or something, I'd be fine with that. (I wouldn't *want* to go!) Maybe if they were going to some kid-centric thing that the girls had always loved but I don't (Girl Scouts camping or something). But if they were going on a beach vacation without me? And DH didn't so much as invite me? We would have words. They would not be words fit for little ears.
I'm sure someone else will suggest this as well, but search for "mini wife" on this site and I think you'll find an awful lot that looks familiar. Any child who would expect to go on a vacation alone with Daddy sounds like a mini wife to me.
Many thanks for your replies.
Many thanks for your replies. To answer some of your questions we are having a week away together when he returns from his holiday with his daughter. He doesn't want to lose me and has told me so, he said our relationship is the most important and without this solid foundation it will all fall apart. His daughter hasn't demanded to go it's my husband who has organized this so he can have time with her, she couldn't really care if she goes or not. He loves me and wants me. He has been isolated from his by his ex partner so really what chance do I have.
Thanks
Sorry that should be he has
Sorry that should be he has been isolated from his daughter by his ex partner.
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I think you need to get a
I think you need to get a serious grip. He wants to spend one on one time with his DD, and I think that's great. You're worried he won't think about you when he's gone?? Yet he spends 99% of his time with you & YOUR kids?? What an odd thing to say. SD prob doesn't like you - she's at a weird age - I would have LOVED it if my dad had spent time with me like that when I was 15. When he got remarried I felt like his priority was his new family.
Sometimes it just doesn't always end up as "one big happy family", and the Brady Bunch was an delusional fantasy.
dtzyblnd Hon that's great
dtzyblnd
Hon that's great about your SS ! Not sure what that has to do w/the op and her sd who evidently DOES have issues .. But I of course can only go on what info the op gave... W/o knowing this girl personally it would be hard to determine what her issues are... I was merely giving feedback based on "my own issues", but thanks for input at any rate!
Thank you for your reply. The
Thank you for your reply. The problem I have is that I feel he is rewarding her bad behaviour. She is old enough to know right from wrong and continues to disrespect her dad, she speaks and treats him very poorly. By taking her away he is condoning her behaviour.
what is her bad behavior?
what is her bad behavior? Disrespecting her dad? Because I'm here to tell you that that is completely normal, based on my own DD, and almost everyone I know - kids are just little shits at this age, especially when they are confused because of a parent PAS-ing them. I am going thru this w/my DD, and in fact my ex filed for custody of her, has her convinced she should live w/him, and the courts even warned him about stopping the alienating. For probably hormonal reasons girls seem to be worse at this age than boys. I am the only girl, and my dad still says I was the worst one LOL.
But, I don't know your situation; if you could provide further insight that might help to understand.
(also, spending quality time w/his dd is not "rewarding bad behavior" IMO - giving back a cell phone or games would be doing this)
I will join you and dtzy in
I will join you and dtzy in the ranks as well! I have a dd14 and a Dd12. My ODD is the sweetest girl you could ever meet, with the hugest heart. To the point that she often allows herself to get hurt rather than hurt someone else's feelings. She had some moments at about 12 where she got snotty...this mama did not tolerate that. Dd12 is now in that stage. And when she acts up with a smart mouth or an attitude that is not respectful to adults...ANY ADULT, including her BD, stepdad or me, she gets called out on it and has consequences. She does not get rewarded with extra privileges (and sorry...a vaca with daddy alone at the beach IS a privilege...because they can just as easily spend time together at home). ExH complains that she is snotty to him and his newest gf. I let him know I don't have those problems at my home....if I do, it's rare (and coincidentally occurs after being with BD) and I nip them in the bud IMMEDIATELY.
Prime example...apparently today she "had an attitude" according to her sister...but when I showed up at exH's house...they were baking cookies and she was getting what she wanted. Well...you reap what you sow exH.
Girls can be trying...but it's completely how you parent them....as it is with boys also...(see my issues with SS for a perfect example).
So ladies I will gladly join your band of merry fools...if you'll have me!
again, now sure what your
again, now sure what your son's athletic skills have to do with the OP's situation - I am at work and I'll let yall over analyze this thread on your own - feel free to add anything constructive rather than a brag fest on your own kids - I didn't see anything re your situation that either mirrors my or the OP's situation, and am at this point confused why you even posted anything at all - except to say how perfect your children are.
again, now sure what your
again, now sure what your son's athletic skills have to do with the OP's situation - I am at work and I'll let yall over analyze this thread on your own - feel free to add anything constructive rather than a brag fest on your own kids - I didn't see anything re your situation that either mirrors my or the OP's situation, and am at this point confused why you even posted anything at all - except to say how perfect your children are.
For fuck sake, quit over
For fuck sake, quit over analyzing my statements - note I never said "all" girls are shitheads, but thanks for your insightful analysis - I am sure your superior parenting is the reason for your perfect children. Now if you have anything intelligent or constructive to add for the OP, I bet she'd appreciate it. you know what they say about opinions.....
I agree spending quality time
I agree spending quality time in not rewarding her bad behaviour, but taking her away to the beach for a week is. She doesn't call him, text him she speaks rudely to him and has very little time for him and then sends an email about spending quality time with him but that can only be achieved if it's just the two of them. My dh lets her speak like this to him., she is all take, take , take but gives nothing.
It sounds like your DH is
It sounds like your DH is suffering from major guilt...like so many divorced dads tend to be. Your DH also sounds like he lives in a little fear that his daughter may just walk out of his life
This combination of guilt about the divorce and how it effected the child and the constant fear your child will walk out of your life as soon as they can, makes many divorced dads cater to children like mad, ignore and even reward bad behavior. I know, I've had many years of living with it with DH.
If you add children to the mix who are aware of the guilt their father feels, and uses that to manipulate him and use his fear of losing them to control him, well, you have a husband who will fall over backwards for his kids, not discipline them, go out of his way to convince them they come before all else. The constant bowing down to their child/adult child, catering to their every whim, allowing all sorts of bad behavior including towards his spouse, makes it not too surprising that SM's feel they got the crappy end of the stick and their relationship is not a priority. If more SM's simply were able to understand the depth of guilt their DH feels, feel his fear/embarrassment/sadness, I think they would feel less angry/insecure in their relationships with their husbands
I've just returned from out west with my DH visiting his adult daughter. We had a wonderful time and all got along well, but still, I knew I would be on the back burner the whole time as DH couldn't do more for his daughter. He spent every single minute reminding her how much he loves her, how proud he is of her, how special she is, etc..of course all those things are true and I'm so, so happy DH and YSD could have that time and those discussions...but there is a desperateness about it that makes me sad - now that I understand it more. DH still feels very guilty about the effect his divorce had on his girls. Not seeing them every day. Missing things going on in their lives. When we returned home from our trip although we all had a fantastic time, DH was down almost to the point of tears. He says every day how much he is now missing YSD, but also how very bad he feels about the divorce, how difficult even now it is for him to live with it all. All that time with her on our trip, father/daughter discussions, just seemed to emphasize for DH that they didn't have enough of it while YSD was growing up
Rather than getting upset with DH and feeling this impacts us/our relationship, I've chosen to reassure DH as much as I can that no, he is a great father who loves his kids.
The worst enemy we as SM's have I think is a guilt-ridden daddy for our spouse. I think many SM's underestimate how deep this guilt can run and how desperate it can make these parents to prove they are loving, wonderful, "putting their kids first". We as SM's can easily misunderstand this for feeling less loved, or that we are second to all that.
I think the best thing we can do for all involved, is to help our DH's overcome the guilt, deal with the fear and move forward productively parenting their child and supporting their wives....
Guilt is a horrible thing
All I can suggest honey is try to understand it from your DH's perspective. It doesn't make what he is doing right, and it may not be helping his daughter one bit either, but when you know where it's coming from it helps you to deal with it better....
His daughter sends emails
His daughter sends emails through like "for our upcoming holiday I just want to make sure that it is just you and I going, you say you want to spend quality time with me and in order to do that it just needs to be you and me." He doesn't stick up for me and just lets her get away with it. Why should she dictate who goes and doesn't go when she isn't paying.
His daughter sends emails
His daughter sends emails through like "for our upcoming holiday I just want to make sure that it is just you and I going, you say you want to spend quality time with me and in order to do that it just needs to be you and me." He doesn't stick up for me and just lets her get away with it. Why should she dictate who goes and doesn't go when she isn't paying.
I dunno - not sure what to
I dunno - not sure what to tell you. if she were an adult, then that would be a problem! But I don't see what the big deal is about her wanting to spend alone time with dad. my daughter also likes to spend time just with me - not that she doesn't like my bf - but that is NOT her parent.
Your DH spends 99% of the time with you and your kids. she may feel left out but who knows.
sorry if you already said but how long have u been married ? How old was she when you started dating your DH?
nice.............
nice.............
We have been married for 1
We have been married for 1 year and she was 11 when we starting dated. I spoke to dh last night about the email and said that I understand he needs to spend time with her but when she sends emails such as this one in reference to quality time and how it should be just both of them it makes no sense, she makes no time for him at all and is always too busy for her dad and then she sends this email. Her bm is a witch and has poisoned her daughter against both of us. She is quite happy to ask my dh for money, she did extremely well out if the split she got a house, gets maintenance for her daughter and also spousal maintenance. My dh pays all accounts in relation to his daughter, all school related costs, health insurance and school trips. His daughter even says to her dad that he only pays 50% of tennis lessons and she gets this from her mother. This is just an example if some if the things she says to her dad. She doesn't want to have anything to do with me and my kids. She has only been to our house once for Christmas. I can't remember the last time she saw my kids prior to Christmas.
The fact that his DD even
The fact that his DD even knows any of the financials is a dead on giveaway that BM is PAS'ng. Best case scenario is that as she grows older, she will see her mother for what she is - I guess keep this in your mind that the BM putting her up to this shit and hopefully she'll grow past it. I've seen it happen but be prepared for worst case scenario as well. Good luck.
This is the killer
This is the killer phraseology for me: ""for our upcoming holiday I just want to make sure that it is just you and I going, you say you want to spend quality time with me and in order to do that it just needs to be you and me." That is just so appallingly imperious to him and offensive to you. Clearly the BM is her ventriloquist. I had this sort of problem with my OSD too, demanding one-on-one even at the expense of her sibs. My own view on this is that you have to just let it go. If your DH does not find that sort of communication offensive, you will not persuade him otherwise. Let him take her away, waste his time and money and be rejected -- over and over again if necessary. It's only for one week per year. This too will pass and she will grow up and dump him except when he is needed to hand out the money. Until he himself is either so hurt that he drops the game, or gradually realizes what is going wrong, he will not alter his conduct. What you certainly need not believe is that when he is doing this he downgrades you. No, even though he is compartmentalizing his relationships, this one week away with one's child cannot possibly negate an adult relationship at your respective ages. For goodness' sake, many marriages involve spouses being away from each other for much longer periods of time without mishap. The issue is not the period of time for you, but that it is this girl. But to me one week per year of a husband being away just to spend time on his minor child, is not actually that big of a sacrifice from your pov, especially if you yourself are having a holiday with him afterward. If she used the week as a basis to make further inroads and demands, that would be another matter though.
You are right, it's not the
You are right, it's not the time away he goes away for surgical volunteer mission for 2 weeks at a time it's that fact that he is giving her what she wants. If she was genuine in what she said in her email about quality time ok, but she isn't and I'm sure that it is her bm that is putting these ideas in her head. Having said that she is old enough to know right from wrong.
Don't forget, if she has
Don't forget, if she has taken this line that she has to have him all to herself because she cannot stand being with you, this is actually a blessing in disguise. YOu will not get the problem that many of us have with entitled skids as they grow older, that they want to visit DH in our homes and even spend periods of time living with him as adults. Once she has drawn her line in the sand then she herself cannot cross it into your territory. Excellent for you and yours.
He has said that while she is
He has said that while she is still at school he will do all he can to stay connected to her and once she is an adult the decision is hers as to whether it not she wants to keep in contact with him. He said she will be an adult and he can't keep chasing her for a meal etc.
Your hubby is absolutely
Your hubby is absolutely rewarding her bad behaviour! He is showing her, that she is perfectly right to disrespect you. If he hasn't pulled her up by now, then he needs to get a goddamn grip!! Taking her only for a vacation is spoiling her and making her feel like she's his #1 priority - and it is WRONG. WRONG. WRONG!!!!!
SO and I went to see a Counsellor because my SO was suffering from the same guilt and being all disney dad on SD12 (at the time). She would do the same thing - only want him - all to herself... and he used to cater to her - until the counsellor. Know what the Counsellor said that woke him up?
She said relationships are like an onion. When the core of the onion is rotten - it gets thrown out. The only people who sit in the core are the couple in the relationship i.e. the lovers - only. No Dad and Daughter/ Son and Mom / Daughter and Son can be in the core of a relationship. The layers of the onion signify boundaries. The first layer to the core, will sit the kids, next layer, immediate family etc etc. Trouble begins when layers try to cross over into eachother (breaking boundaries).
Your DH is keeping himself and his daughter in the core of your relationship and they are pushing you to an outer layer/boundary. This is why it's upsetting you. You feel it and you know it's wrong. Him taking you for a vacation after is just not good enough. He is treating you poorly by this decision.
Stand up for yourself and tell him that the vacation will be with the two of you so you can show SD that you are a united front and she needs to learn to accept this and respect it. He has to show her that by disrespecting you she is essentially, disrespecting his choice in a partner - and that needs to be nipped in the bud - now.
I don't know what to do. I
I don't know what to do. I don't want to bring it up again with him he is steadfast in his ideas, but I also don't want this child to put a wedge between us. It seems as though every week his daughter is causing issues between us and she doesn't even live with us. I want to have a happy life with my husband but I have this girl in the background who causes me grief. He has said time and time again he knows what is daughter is doing is wrong but he loves her like any other father and wants to stay close. Why does he need to go overseas , I don't know he himself loves to travel. As I have said in previous posts she really couldn't care if she sees him or not. He catches up maybe once a fortnight for dinner and she knows that if she doesn't go that he will keep texting or calling till she does. Dinner is only 1-2 hours and she calls that quality time. In fact they went out last night he was back in an hour and a half. Dh made no mention of the email that she had sent earlier that day. Quality time is when it in convenient for her.