Almos three years later
Hello everybody,
Three years after I separated from my then fiancee I am posting here. A year ago we reconnected via email. It turned out his son left to live with his mom and my ex was very unhappy about it. Shortly after Baby momma 1 - the mother of his daughter married. My ex had a rude awakening but obviously even that was not enough for him. He gained a lot of weight and was dating some woman that he later claimed was just him settling and he knew that they are not right for each other. We kept in touch since last summer. He said he wants to reconnect that all of the men in his family got married last year and this year they are expecting children and he would love to have a child. I bought this and thought ok - he is a changed man. His son is graduating from highschool and his daughter will be done in 2 years. He is sincere in his wish to have a family and a child- he kept on telling me how much he wants that . I just need to wait till they turn 18- that was his mantra. I am grateful I did not buy it because dear ladies always heed the saying: "One of the most important things in life that I learned is to ignore most of what people say . I watch what they DO instead". ~ Amanda Patterson.
Yes , dear women men say that till they turn 18 and that they truly want a family and a child but do their actions tell you that. Well, last week I was informed that he signed a student loan for his son to go to community college and since his son will need discipline he will move his son in for the next two years so he can monitor and guide his progress until he is ready to go to two year college. I guess in 2 years if his daughter goes to him and asks him to sign her loan and move in with him his response will be the same. Where did the dream of having a wife and a child go. I do not know - obviously not priority.
I am happy I did not attach emotionally, physically or mentally. Yes, it was disappointing in a way. I informed him that under the changed circumstances I no longer consider him a suitable marriage material and can only stay friends until his circumstances change. And yes Baby momma 2 asked fora raise in her child support since his son graduated highschool. On top he has his own pile of loans from undergrad and grad school plus the loan he just signed for his son.
It is not just the money issue- it is again him and his mother that took the decisions. I was simply informed what they have decided to do. I felt like I was back in 2011 and told him that it felt we are back where we started. I think he needs time. The question is do I have that time - no . It is sad but I see him only as a friend and not a suitable match or marriage material. Why is it that we can spot the problems of other people and cannot see what is the issue with ourselves.
Love and peace and hope my post has thrown some light for somebody in a similar situation. The moral of the story - some people never change:) Make sure you do change for the better and make your life glorious fun. You deserve it
Thank you, for your support!
Thank you, for your support! I did not share with anyone that we reconnected via e mail with him and felt the need to share this development somehow with someone here.
I guess this is how I feel too - indifferent in some way. It is a great perspective you gave me - yes his life is a chaos and hope he will find the strength to find a way out of it. He is a good man I am sure- just needs time that I do not have . I need to focus on me and happiness:)Great lesson he thought me again
Thank you , for your
Thank you , for your perspective, Yes, you are right- he has shared with me kids are a lot of work.He wants to grow professionally - he starts Ph.D classes in the fall. Would love to enjoy a good lifestyle when he is well set in his professional life. His parenting experience was not fun - he was back and forth between Baby Momma 1 and Baby momma 2 - constant back and forth for him and the kids. He claimed he wants a normal parenting experience where you actually marry and plan to have a child and parent according to common values.
I am sure he loves me and I do love him and care about him. He needs to work on himself and for that he needs time and I want a serious man who stands behind his words and backs them up with appropriate actions.For the time being he does not show me he is doing that.
Thank you, for your point. We
Thank you, for your point. We all deserve the best. I am following your advice and moving on. Yes , three years later I was reminded yet again - this guy is not a keeper.
He likes the idea of a family and a child - he is not there yet.He will eventually understand:) We all do sooner or later get to a point in life where we are ready to face ourselves.
This also proves: people
This also proves: people don't change, they just alter the way they act when they get caught
"I informed him that under
"I informed him that under the changed circumstances I no longer consider him a suitable marriage material and can only stay friends until his circumstances change." You are SOOOO wise!!! One of my favorite sayings is, "A little masochism never hurt anybody." LOL From what you wrote it is hard to see one benefit to you if you continue a relationship with this man. His child support has been raised, he will be spending the money to put SS through college, followed by SD, and he's still getting HIS professional life together. Lots of potential benefits to him if he has your income to help. I agree with Steptococis. Move one from this one. Three years into the future you will be thanking your lucky stars.
Good for you! You can't have
Good for you! You can't have good things when your life is full of rubbish, and you correctly identified him as rubbish!!!!
Seems to me that he was testing the waters to see if her could lure you back in, and since you have history together- he knows your currency (wanting a family) and tried to use it against you.
Consider that a bullet dodged, now go meet a great guy!
Тhank you , ladies! This time
Тhank you , ladies! This time around I was wiser much wiser. I did not attached physically and that helps to take the right decisions and stay focused on me. I must admit that I also love myself more and know what I do want. Was he testing the waters - probably he was. Who knows. His actions show me he was not serious and genuine in his dream of a family. I do want a family and I am looking for a potential marriage partner. He knows what I want and what he offers is not right for me.
I have to agree that he has no clear direction about his life and where it is leading. He claimed after the kids turn 18 he will focus on himself. Obviously not the case. He will support his son financially and emotionally and mentally through community college. I am sure if his daughter comes with the same request two years later he will do the same. I do not see a space in all of this for a wife and family. He has dedicated himself to his children. That is a choice he has made and it is great he is clear about that part in his life.
I can easily stay distant friends - this is a not an issue for me. He is a good man- just very confused about life, who he is and what is family. He has good qualities - however building a family , relationships and having a wife and a marriage is not something I can see him having. Despite the age of his kids he is going to be who he is. It does not even have to do with the children - it has to do with his attitude and behavior that really turns me off from considering him as a potential marriage partner . Hope he gets it one day :).
But until then I will go and greet the day and smile. There is life full of possibilities ahead of me .
Thank you , Cat! Yes three
Thank you , Cat! Yes three years later and one year after we resumed talking I am more than happy I did not marry this man!
Yesterday he said that he and his brother want to invest in his son and help him though school and buy him a car etc. When I asked about marriage and family he was like - well if it is in the stars and if it happens it happens. So I guess women here were right about him just saying things to keep me around and not being genuine about family and children.
I made a story to test him that I need 250 usd for a lab test to see whether he will respond as a friend and whether I can count on him. His words were - I will pray for you and I wish I could help you. Now I truly know that even as a friend I cannot count on him. I plan to gradually stop communicating with him. I think he will get the message.His focus is clear and mine is also clearly communicated to him. Just we are at different stages in our lives. I am at the family and kids stage and he is at the putting my children through college stage.
Thank you ladies for your support! Love yourself