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jeeper's picture

strange things happen.. I gave up on ever finding true love, at 60 years old..as I posted in the past, I gave up in all honesty..

I move to a new home and long story short, I fell for a neighbor that was newly widowed..

she had been married for 40 years to the same man and fairly religious. for the first few months, I was a complete gentleman and she wanted no romantic entanglements..

8 months down the road, we both caved in and we started a full scale romance. in secret. we are not allowed to be seen in public..

she has 2 adult kids and she was scared to death that we would be found out by her sister, who lives next door..

her son is 100 percent against her dating anyone.. he says its disrespectful to his father..

she has had health issues and doesn't need the added stress..

we have a wonderful time together when we are alone.. at my age, I was having to sneak in the back door, to spend time with her.. now she is afraid her sister will find out and tell her son.

she says she loves me and never dreamed a romance could have come along so soon after being widowed..

she says in 6 months things will change with her children and they will accept me, because im a good man. how do I start liking kids who are causing me problems..

I don't think her kids will ever accept any man in her life.. shes supposed to stay in mourning.

she tells me to be patient, but I seriously doubt things will change.. she is scared to death of family scorn.

she says if I push the issue, she will break up with me. I should realize that she is held hostage by her kids and move on.. it could be the love of my life, if her kids would butt out.

being my neighbor makes breaking up more difficult. I cant do it right now. im too emotionally envolved with her.

hereiam's picture

I do agree with Echo, also. You should ask why she is allowing her kids to dictate her life and if that is really what is going on.

jeeper's picture

she had been a widow for 6 months before we started any romance.. things happen when they happen.. I didn't choose this moment in life to find her.. matters of the heart just happen..

we are both senior citizens technically, even though neither of us look or act like it..

my argument, is that waiting 6 more months wont matter.. its just a reprieve before you get the electric chair.. I feel in 6 months it will be 6 more.. just an alibi.

if we get caught, it would be very traumatic for her.. im sure she would break up with me..

already tried to break if off with her, but couldn't do..

im between a rock and a hard place!

shame the family cant let us be happy.. the scary part is "blood thicker than water" and I will be the one who loses in the end.

ctnmom's picture

Her kids are holding her hostage, and now they're holding you hostage, too. You're in the same boat as you were before.

Jsmom's picture

Life is too short. I was widowed at 34 and waited three years to date. I wasn't ready. Clearly she is and they aren't. This would be a deal breaker for me. She is older and really she should want to be happy at this point. In widow world it is called our "Chapter 2". She needs to start hers. Kids will be angry for awhile, but they will get over it.

If she breaks up with you over this, then it wasn't meant to be....

still learning's picture

She's their mother and deserves a little respect during this time in her life from her children, sister and everyone. If she's too scared to rock the boat then the two of you don't have much of a future. Do you really want to be in relationship with someone who lets their children dictate their love life?

Good luck cuz you're going to need it if you persist in this.

ClutterMusings's picture

Aw, man. I would be soooo sad if my parents moved on so soon after they widowed. Just me being honest.

I hate it though, because I think everyone deserves happiness. It may just be too soon for the adult children, but you both are well-past grown and can do what you want to and that's a fact!

It sounds like a mess though, sneaking around and hiding, etc. If you are really serious about this woman and considering marriage you may not be happy for the rest of your life because her grown children WILL interfere, and if she is not willing to "go all out with you" she may just be lonely and using you for company.

Have fun though...nothing wrong with that Smile

moeilijk's picture

Do people sign prenups for going out in public for a coffee now? My, how times have changed.

WTF...REALLY's picture

Your on a roll HRNCY....prenup to date, lower wages for women since they can get pregnant.....yup...on a roll......

ltman's picture

Slow up cowboy. Let her come to you. I don't know what her marriage was like and maybe she was biding time. Anyway it sounds like she's got a case of the guilts and needs a bit of room to sort herself out. Worry about what family thinks is bs.

Merry's picture

Yep. What Rising said. You are having an affair, not a romance. She's acting exactly like a woman having an affair acts. Secrets. Nothing public. Denial of the relationship. Will leave you if she's "caught."

I couldn't do that. If she's not ready, give her time and space. If she is ready, but is so controlled by her kids, then you don't want that in a partner.

ChokinOnLemonz's picture

If you don't let her grieve her marriage she won't get into a good place with you.

My husband was a drinker when we got together. He didn't stop until about three years ago. What does drinking do? Freezes everything. I've spent the last two years with him working through his grief over losing his mother AND his last marriage. That's not easy. At all.

For both of your sakes, please just back off. Let her grieve. Then if it's right you can try again.

You'll know when she is ready; when she stops hiding you.

Good luck

TwirlMS's picture

NO ONE can decide for someone else how long they must grieve the loss of a former spouse.

It's not the right of the adult offspring or any other outsider that is telling you to backoff.

You can't please everyone no matter what you do, so why not embrace life instead of death and be happy with the here and now? A new promising relationship.

When I married a widower three years ago, it made the both of us so happy we can't imagine it any other way. It was meant to be!

If the adult children want their parent to hang onto someone that is dead and gone, then they don't really care about anyone's happiness but their own.

At the end of the day, you're not telling your adult children who they can and cannot marry, are you?

The new lady in your life needs to start considering YOUR feelings, and if she's so wrapped up in what other people might think then she has too much baggage. If she's not ready to take it to the next level, introducing you to her family, then you are not in an exclusive committed relationship with her. Sounds like you need to have "the talk:" that you are free to date other people because you are searching for someone special in your life that is free to enter into the kind of relationship that you are seeking.

notarelative's picture

I love the disrespectful comment. We heard that one from step-son-in-law.

He said it about his mom who was widowed (for several years) and started dating. He said it to me and DH who both have deceased spouses. Absolutely no realization on stepSIL's part that he was ranting about his mom's disrespect to two people who had been widowed and dated.

Your lady friend is going to have to understand that at 60 you don't have to have your children's permission to date. At 60 you don't ask your children's permission to marry. If things progress to marriage you should consider a prenuptial to protect your assets from her children.

z3girl's picture

It sounds like she's not ready. 6 months after 40 years of marriage is not long at all. My parents were married for 50 years, and he waited about a year before dating again. I was never against him dating, but he did have a couple of women try to take advantage of him and his money. After the first one, I became very cautious about accepting his subsequent girlfriends. I did want to see him happy, but I didn't want him to end up on the streets, and he was close to ending up that way if I didn't step in.

My mother passed away 8 years ago now, and my father is living in an assisted living facility, and he found yet another new girlfriend within weeks of moving in. She's sweet and I'm happy for him.

Give it time. She needs time to get over her marriage, and really, what's the rush? You can't rush a relationship even if you want to.

ChiefGrownup's picture

^^^Yes, bechers. Furthermore, at 60 you feel the end of the road coming at you a lot faster than it did at 39. 6 months seem less certain and certainly less disposable than ever before. Sex and intimacy seem at a higher premium than ever before, too.

OP and his lady-love do not need anybody's permission to date or fall in love or just cling to each other in the storm of life.

It has been a huge upheaval for her and she may be unable to face the potential trauma of telling her kids simply from emotional exhaustion. She may even be wrong about their attitude. They may be relieved to see her comforted and settled in, if she'd give them a chance. Or she could be right on about them and doesn't feel strong enough now but will in time face them.

I have told my DH if something happens to me he is to find someone else right away because he deserves happiness. If we had any mutual kids I'd tell them, too.

I met a lady in her 80's who married 3 WEEKS after the death of her husband. She was living in her home, independent, handling her own affairs. At 80-whatever she knew she didn't have a minute to spare of being miserable when she could be happy.

happystepmum's picture

My mum is a widow, my darling dad died almost 3 years ago after 42 years of marriage. She was nowhere near ready to date only 6 months after, could barely speak his name without tearing up.

I'm honestly torn as to how I'd feel in this situation. On the one hand, mum is only 65, she could live for another 15-20 years, that's a long time to be alone. But, rightly or wrongly, my dad was her husband, and no one else should fill that role. I think I'd be ok if they dated, even went away together, as long as they didn't get married. Ridiculous I know, but I'm just being honest.

As for what I'd do if mum did meet someone? NOTHING. My brothers and I have already agreed that we've have to deal with our feelings between the three of us, and not involve mum. It's not our business. Mum is a grown woman. I can also tell you that she would never allow my brothers and I, or anyone else to dictate how she lives her life.

jeeper's picture

when we first met, she was looking very sickly and as I said, had survived a health issue. now she looks chipper and the look of despair has gone.. I would think her kids would be happy about that.. but not! she needs more despair in her life.

last night, we had another family based argument.. we had a date and she was an hour late, because she was afraid her sister would suspect something..

I know that im on the losing end of this equation, but im in too deep.. in my youth, I would never have allowed a woman to treat me like this.. im not happy, but im more unhappy when I cant see her.. damn..

when we sneak off for a day-trip, we have a wonderful time.. soon as we get close to home she worries about who might see her with me..

I might add, that I have started working for her at her shop.. since im the manager ive tried to tell her that when we must drive on official business, that its normal for managers to ride together... she says no. she makes me follow her in my own car, so people wont talk.

she swears that she loves me dearly.. why cant family just let us be happy.. im so screwed!

ltman's picture

Dude, dude, dooooood. You are way too much in the shit. If you two work together, people already know you are together. Body language will shout it to all who look.

jeeper's picture

I just found out, that before her husband died, he asked her to swear she would never be with another man.. she claims she avoided the answer.. whats with that?

im thinking her son also knows about this..

if so, maybe he will never accept things. DOH!

Stormyweather's picture

It's now sounding suss.. If it were me, I would think she was using me for company and just stringing me along!

Have some self respect and demand a plan or leave it alone until she is ready to proclaim your relationship.